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    As April 24 approaches again I am left with one thought - what happens next? What if the Armenian genocide is accepted by Turkey? What then? What force do Armenians unify against? It seems the genocide has acted as the reference point which Armenians young and old, east and west, from Ethiopia and Zimbabwe, to England and France, to Canada and U.S., all rally around. Take that away, and you take a major part of Armenian national consciousness. And when that happens, what's next? It seems there won't be any more reason for some to be 'Armenian' when there is no goal of great magnitude ahead.
    Achkerov kute.

  • #2
    Well lets not go and forget the fact that we have an independant country in need of much support.

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    • #3
      That doesn't really answer the point I raise. The idea of the Genocide at this point is more powerful than the existence of the current country, as even this country is subordinate and a product of the genocide. What then? It wasn't a country that the genocide sought to destroy, it was a people and a culture.
      Achkerov kute.

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      • #4
        When the genocide issue is taken care of attention will be focused on Armenia, that will be the unifying point, why is tha tso hard to understand. Do you think that is healthy when a historical issue is more important for a big part of a population than an existent independant nation that desperately needs all the help it can get to survive and insure that nothing like genocide ever happens again.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TigranJamharian
          When the genocide issue is taken care of attention will be focused on Armenia, that will be the unifying point, why is tha tso hard to understand. Do you think that is healthy when a historical issue is more important for a big part of a population than an existent independant nation that desperately needs all the help it can get to survive and insure that nothing like genocide ever happens again.
          I think you entirely misunderstand the point of my discussion. It has nothing to do with the country at hand. I am speaking specifically about the Genocide, and its unifying power that has added to the national consciousness of Armenians.
          Achkerov kute.

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          • #6
            i understand what youre saying. and i agree. im just saying dont be too pessimistic, when it gets recognized that unifying power will go to our nation and the survival and welfare of the nation will be on the top of the list of every diaspora organization and every diasporan and hopefully will be able to unify as well as the genocide issue has been able to for 90 years.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TigranJamharian
              i understand what youre saying. and i agree. im just saying dont be too pessimistic, when it gets recognized that unifying power will go to our nation and the survival and welfare of the nation will be on the top of the list of every diaspora organization and every diasporan and hopefully will be able to unify as well as the genocide issue has been able to for 90 years.
              It's not about pessimism. Pontificating that somehow the unifying power of the country will take over the masses of diaspora is nothing more than a guess. Plenty of Armenians having been born and grown up in the diaspora might not identify with the mother country as you and I do, but they all identify with the genocide. Thus the genocide serves two purposes: first, as an idea it creates a rallying point for Armenians internationally to unify under; second, it serves as an obstacle that creates a need for action and a goal.
              Achkerov kute.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Anonymouse
                It's not about pessimism. Pontificating that somehow the unifying power of the country will take over the masses of diaspora is nothing more than a guess. Plenty of Armenians having been born and grown up in the diaspora might not identify with the mother country as you and I do, but they all identify with the genocide. Thus the genocide serves two purposes: first, as an idea it creates a rallying point for Armenians internationally to unify under; second, it serves as an obstacle that creates a need for action and a goal.
                You're right, but what can we do?
                But look at the jews, most of them havent been born in Israel but look how strongly all of them support it. It is on the front of all of their agendas and they are getting their respective nations to support Israel both politically and financially. That should be a model for us.(minus the crazy arab terrorists)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TigranJamharian
                  You're right, but what can we do?
                  But look at the jews, most of them havent been born in Israel but look how strongly all of them support it. It is on the front of all of their agendas and they are getting their respective nations to support Israel both politically and financially. That should be a model for us.(minus the crazy arab terrorists)
                  But see, Israel is merely an extension of the Holocaust. It is the rallying point of Jews. Their Holocaust has been accepted a long time ago yet they continue to perpetuate it and disseminate it, and we always here of it endlessly and it is illegal to question it in Europe, and that is how they maintain unified under that idea. Will the Armenian genocide take a similar path if it is accepted? Will it become institutionalized like the Holocaust?
                  Achkerov kute.

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                  • #10
                    Why not, it shouldnt be a main focus nor a defining aspect of our nation or people but it should still be a noted part of our history.

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