Opinions of a Turk, or two (hi from Turkey)

[nunechka]

you started out by insulting me... and now you dont expect an insult back??? talk about healthy human interaction...


the words "ya we did genocide, and if it was today we would kill more" keep ringing in my head... i become filled with anger and i think of my family members, my people, and you expect me to give you any le way? NO! WAY! appolgize! first for the genocide, admit to it, fight your ignorant goverment and people to recognize it and then i wll think of you as a normal person, and i will give you le way...

[sadi]

Ok... It is impossible to talk with you...

You are imagining Turks all believing Turanic views.this is an illusion.

You have no sufficient information on Ataturk... even basic facts...

You are believing one-thing with one-sided information.... It could be a genocide ... But,why are you angry and frigtened by opposite views?

[dstyle]

Talat pashan pakhav berlin, tehliriana hasav yedin zargav jadgen pretz kedeen.

[winoman]

Regarding Ataturk. I believe that he was a great man - not without issues - major issues - with the chief one being that he allowed for - encouraged - the further massacre and expulsion of Armenians from Anatolia - that he let it happened - forced it - to secure a Turkey for the Turks. In this he was ruthless, callous and evil. However - there can be no doubt that Ataturk was a visionary - a great military leader he certainly was and he had tremendous political and social vision - he literaly tranformed Turkey and forced it into modernity. If it were not for the stain of the Armenian Genocide - in which he could have perhaps rectified the situation somewhat and made amends (though it went entirely counter to his vision for Turkey and the Turks...) - and a great shame on him that he could not do this - as he once highly respected the Armenian people (but he essentially came to fear us) - he could be considered one of the great men of the 20th century. I have read Kinross and studied other texts on Ataturk - I've been to Gollipoli and read his words on the monument there that drove me to tears - I have even been to his tomb in Ankara. My feelings on the man are - of course - very mixed. Like many great men he was flawed - he was ruthless - and there should always be an asterik by his name - he finalized the Turkish solution to the "Armenian problem" by carrying through on the Young Turk plans to eliminate the Armenians from their ancient home in Anatolia. And he knew and understood his crime. For Ataturk was not so ignorant as these Turks who now infest our forum.

[Anonymouse]

Regarding Ataturk. I believe that he was a great man - not without issues - major issues - with the chief one being that he allowed for - encouraged - the further massacre and expulsion of Armenians from Anatolia - that he let it happened - forced it - to secure a Turkey for the Turks. In this he was ruthless, callous and evil. However - there can be no doubt that Ataturk was a visionary - a great military leader he certainly was and he had tremendous political and social vision - he literaly tranformed Turkey and forced it into modernity. If it were not for the stain of the Armenian Genocide - in which he could have perhaps rectified the situation somewhat and made amends (though it went entirely counter to his vision for Turkey and the Turks...) - and a great shame on him that he could not do this - as he once highly respected the Armenian people (but he essentially came to fear us) - he could be considered one of the great men of the 20th century. I have read Kinross and studied other texts on Ataturk - I've been to Gollipoli and read his words on the monument there that drove me to tears - I have even been to his tomb in Ankara. My feelings on the man are - of course - very mixed. Like many great men he was flawed - he was ruthless - and there should always be an asterik by his name - he finalized the Turkish solution to the "Armenian problem" by carrying through on the Young Turk plans to eliminate the Armenians from their ancient home in Anatolia. And he knew and understood his crime. For Ataturk was not so ignorant as these Turks who now infest our forum.

No politician is a "great man", and certainly not a Turkish politician as the likes of the Young Turks from which Ataturk descended. Your posts are more about you than the actual topic. It's disappointing.

[winoman]

No politician is a "great man", and certainly not a Turkish politician as the likes of the Young Turks from which Ataturk descended. Your posts are more about you than the actual topic. It's disappointing.

Ataturk was not a politicain. He was a leader - something that Armenains could use.

You are just a little piece of s h i t

[Anonymouse]

Ataturk was not a politicain. He was a leader - something that Armenains could use.

You are just a little piece of s h i t

Awww he's insulting me, how cute.

[nunechka]

anonymouse and winoman ENOUGH!

[sadi]

Dear Winoman,i have read all forum.I see that,the only one, who has enough information about the events and Turkey ,is you...

The others are blindly advocating someting.I don't say exactly ... this was not genocide... I am curious about the Triumvirate's intention on extermination from Anatolia or from the Earth!

You must understand "extermination from Anatolia." Turks also were exterminated from Balkans.And,too many nations had to leave their homelands all over the history.This is very very sad but unfortunately a realty of history.


I believe that their aim was to evacuate Armenians from Anatolia.If they had thought other,they would have needed not deportation!Or All Armenians would have arrived nowhere after deportation. ... If the order was to be "exterminate Armenians" ,all Soldiers would kill Armenians and noone reach Syria...

Yes.There were massacres .Turks know this very well.Because there were huge hatreds between Armenians and Turks,Kurds.This is a realty...

Ok... I am leaving this forum.But,you must know that Turks are open to your views.There are journalists,historians,armenians advocating "genocide" openly in Turkey.We are reading your documents and web sites.Don't be angry for this.We are not one-sided opinion.


I think,you must interact with Turks and be open to the opposite views.But,i see that some armenians are racist against Turks.Also,Some turks are racist.But,we must not categorize people by their nations or faiths.

one-sided information is never healty...

[winoman]

Sadi - if you think this way then why do you continue to advocate lies?