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  • #41
    i know that the *urks were protesting the war in iraq...

    and yes, of course the actions of the armenian government in armenia and in the organizations that represent us here in US were terrible...

    we must uphold honesty, truth, and integrity no matter what happens... we should no step on people just because its the right time... we should not lie to people just because it makes for better stories...

    what i saw in the *urkish people when they protested US policy in their country and the war in Iraq was that if they are informed they will revolt against the bad things... unfortunately MOST *urks are not aware of the Armenian Genocide, thats why they are not revolting against their governments continual cover up... and when they do find out, what does the government do? tells them lies to cover it up more... keeps them in that continueous coma...

    anywho - about Armenian troops in Iraq... i have said this before and i am saying it again... ARMENIAN TROOPS DO NOT BELONG IN IRAQ! ARMENIA is tiny! the insurgance has more people then the total population of armenians... do you understand that?

    look, as far as "looking good" in front of the fat bully kids (United States) eyes goes - i have to say that i do not care if the US like Armenia or not... it is diaspora that makes the difference in armenia, not US policy... if the US had any morals or ethics they would help armenians with the genocide issue but they dont, so why are we trying to look good in front of them anyway? PATHETIC!

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    • #42
      How will you react if some azeris kill some armenians in Karabağ?
      I'm sure what you'll do. You betrayed, we punished.
      You are saying that you killed inocents.
      You killed too. What about ASALA that we cleared. Be sure, there is no nation in the world that they accept betrayers attack without punishment. Even in your country.
      First, you have to understand that.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by oneworld
        How will you react if some azeris kill some armenians in Karabağ?
        I'm sure what you'll do. You betrayed, we punished.
        You are saying that you killed inocents.
        You killed too. What about ASALA that we cleared. Be sure, there is no nation in the world that they accept betrayers attack without punishment. Even in your country.
        First, you have to understand that.
        *disregards more bullxxxx from a vile ignorant turk*
        *dreams of the day this brutal corroded animal will beg an Armenian fighter for mercy*

        As far as Armenia sending its tiny purely symbolic force to Iraq, I think it finally crumbled under Washington's pressure or got hooked on Washington's bait. In fact, I'm proud that at least we resisted as long as we did. Georgia and Azerbaijan had troops in Iraq for a year until Armenia finally sent its force. The reason is simple, money. Even with the powerful Armenian lobby in Washington, the military financial aid to the three countries in Caucasus broke down like this: Georgia 14 mill, Azerbaijan 8 mill, Armenian 4 mill. Guess the break down of the number of troops each country had commited to Iraq. So, the move to send troops to Iraq is in fact very practical in nature, even though it is basic prostitution.

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        • #44
          What about ASALA that we cleared
          Really..i don't remember the things that way ,but anyway Turk.

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          • #45
            i read in a few Turkish sites that ASALA killed Turkish diplomats abroad and by coincidence they all turned out to be masonic people or some kinda jewish origin... its worth to make a research on this.. well who knows...
            Last edited by Otto; 06-23-2005, 09:36 AM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Otto
              i read in a few Turkish sites that ASALA killed Turkish diplomats abroad and by coincidence they all turned out to be masonic people or some kinda jewish origin... its worth to make a research on this.. well who knows...
              Didn't you know that there aren't really any Turks left at all - nope - all genocided by Armenians apparently (so the secret CUP masonic documents show...)..so all that is left in Turkey is a bunch of Jews and crypto-Jews (OK and a few Kurds...maybe...and a Laz or two...just for amusments sake...) - all are just masquarading as Turks. It is the great unknown farce of our times (the truth of it can be discovered from careful examination of all of Kemal Ataturks many long speeches - pay attention to the Yiddish phrases...). Very soon now there will be a melding of Israel and Turkey under one banner as they attempt to once again subjugate the whole Middle East - Sharon will be declared Calipphe and the Arabs will be convinced that they too are just "lost" Jews and that Mahaumed was just a stinking Persian all along....this will all happen very soon now - as soon as they finally feel strong enough to bring it all out in the open and when the US is too occupied pushing for Democratic representation among Drug Lords in South America to care... No its true - I read it somewhere....

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              • #47
                hah... what an imagination.... are we gonna hug each other (long lost brothers) when that happens?

                and what if someone prooves that those diplomats are all jew? anything can happen in this world.. maybe we become allies with Armenia and fight against Israel to liberate jerusalem...
                Last edited by Otto; 06-23-2005, 10:32 AM.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by winoman
                  Didn't you know that there aren't really any Turks left at all - nope - all genocided by Armenians apparently (so the secret CUP masonic documents show...)..so all that is left in Turkey is a bunch of Jews and crypto-Jews (OK and a few Kurds...maybe...and a Laz or two...just for amusments sake...) - all are just masquarading as Turks. It is the great unknown farce of our times (the truth of it can be discovered from careful examination of all of Kemal Ataturks many long speeches - pay attention to the Yiddish phrases...). Very soon now there will be a melding of Israel and Turkey under one banner as they attempt to once again subjugate the whole Middle East - Sharon will be declared Calipphe and the Arabs will be convinced that they too are just "lost" Jews and that Mahaumed was just a stinking Persian all along....this will all happen very soon now - as soon as they finally feel strong enough to bring it all out in the open and when the US is too occupied pushing for Democratic representation among Drug Lords in South America to care... No its true - I read it somewhere....

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Otto
                    i read in a few Turkish sites that ASALA killed Turkish diplomats abroad and by coincidence they all turned out to be masonic people or some kinda jewish origin... its worth to make a research on this.. well who knows...
                    I have read that the diplomatic cadre of the Turkish republic has, traditionally, comprised a large number of Turkish citizens descended from Jews who, during Ottoman times, converted (on the surface) to Islam. Of course, the same (and the masonic membership thing) has been said for many of the leading members of the CUP.

                    More "deep-state" conspiracies?
                    Plenipotentiary meow!

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                    • #50
                      The whole CUP are a bunch of Dohnme/Jews thing was based on several factors that basicaly concsist of connections and observations taken on their surface and out of context and because of Mark Sykes and other Brits from the Middle East desk were believers in the worldwide Jewish conspiracy and misinterpreted things as such - many of their observations were later proven entirely incorect - but for a time throughout this period their false information dominated British inteligence reports from the region. Obviously no one can dispute the Dohnme presence in Salonkia and its influence there - however connecting this group to any other Jewish organization or such is just pure speculation without substance. Likewise there was a presence of Masonic orders in Salonkia as well. Talat - though a Muslim - was the only non-Jew who attended a Jewish school as a boy - this led to the false speculation of himself as a Jew. The CUP adopted a number of Masonic initiation practices - not unusual - because of the repression by the Sultan against all political parties they tended to develop as secret societies and all of these tended to have rather odd initiation rights and this sort of thing. As for Jews involved in Turkish Diplomacy and such - I could imagine it being true owing to the education and orientation of Jews in Turkey (and in fact we find Jews involved in politics and diplomacy in many nations including the US). I still wouldn't necessarily see it as any kind of conspiracy. Again - the CUP was Pan-Turkick and in fact discussed and actually took actions against Jews. Likewise the Republic of Turkey has oppressed Jews and attempted to force them out of the country. To me actions and policies mean more then some unproved possible connections - genetic or otherwise - if even true - etc.

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