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What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

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  • Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

    What a waste of bandwidth.


    Turk:



    There is no debate with that. One only needs to guard against it.
    Last edited by skhara; 08-18-2006, 05:40 PM.

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    • Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

      Originally posted by platana
      [B]Im here, couse I want to explain my opinions on a subject
      I engage in discussions; there are a few kinds of discussions, in one you claim something about a subject and the other side refuse some parts but agree with you in some aspects.In the others one claim something and the only otherone can agree with him in certain aspects.the other discussion, one side defense only his idea or allegation and so does the other side.
      I want to say that I have never insulted anyone of you or used a swearword to someone so far, I only try to explain my opinions, yes maybe sometimes my writings seem sarcastical or excited, but it may result from not existing any person so interested in this subject and opposide side so far.
      But you have so far avoided all the points and questions I have raised. That doesn't sound like much of a discussion. It does sound like you have a scripted spiel that you spout and you don't move away from predictability and then you go on to claim that it is us Armenians that say the same thing. If you want to be taken seriously, you have to learn to actually answer the questions I ask, not answer the questions you wish I asked. There is a difference.
      Achkerov kute.

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      • Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

        Oh I made a mistake,besides it is a big mistake ha?I begin to worry
        Really you are getting more ridiculous,I wonder that if a writer living in Armenia [or in any country]say in his writing that armenians' blood is poisonous,what would armenians say? are you kidding me?Is it a humanity right to insult a nation in which you live, besides 70 million people are aware of that insulting.it is very disgusting . And ıs Türkiye banana republic?I suppose that you expected that Türkiye should say," yes Hrant Dink is right, 70 millions turks' blood is poisonous and turks are shameful" did you expected that????
        So what? Obviously you don’t understand the meaning of freedom of speech but I take consolation in the fact that you are a turk. Freedom of speech can show its real essence in situations like that. However, Hrant Dink expressed the feelings of that 1500000 people’s ancestors who suffer till now its consequences. Is it too much?
        How come you get hurt by one insult and we can not get hurt by a genocide which aimed to annihilate a whole nation that now has to deal with its recognition ,compensation and with some deniers?

        Ps: what about Orhan Pamuk? What was his fault? Did he qualify you as poisonous ? or just simply admitted the Armenian Genocide, after years?

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        • Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

          Originally posted by platana
          Hmmmm... the story is getting more strange, it remids me another story ; At first the number of massacred Armanians was claimed 400.000, then it was 700.000,and now 1,5 million
          Now, according to your allegation, the date of so called genocide (1914-1915) is about to change and also it may be named "the first genocide" in the history,
          Everyone add this story another odd thing and I cant imagine 30 years later,but everyone is free in his opinion
          thank you for informing me, if you have another information please, send me...
          The Armenian Genocide just like the other genocides was an organized and calculated plot to annihilate the armen race. It did not happen on the night of 24th April 1915 or during one year, the preliminary massacres started in late 19th century and reached the climax in 1915. this is an obvious theory for every genocide and not specifically for the AG.
          So i was right that your historical knowledge is so tiny and you just came here to discuss the issu with some predetermined lies in your head.

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          • Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

            Originally posted by Anonymouse
            If you want to be taken seriously, you have to learn to actually answer the questions I ask, not answer the questions you wish I asked. There is a difference.
            you are right there is a difference. You only answer the questions you wish

            you only answered this?
            Im here, couse I want to explain my opinions on a subject
            I engage in discussions; there are a few kinds of discussions, in one you claim something about a subject and the other side refuse some parts but agree with you in some aspects.In the others one claim something and the only otherone can agree with him in certain aspects.the other discussion, one side defense only his idea or allegation and so does the other side.
            I want to say that I have never insulted anyone of you or used a swearword to someone so far, I only try to explain my opinions, yes maybe sometimes my writings seem sarcastical or excited, but it may result from not existing any person so interested in this subject and opposide side so far.

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            Originally Posted by Anonymouse
            Just what have you "showed"? All you have showed was what appeared to be an attempt at having discussions and conference, and by no means a statement that the archives are open and ready for the historians to sift through..

            what about the answer of this?
            OK,Suppose that you are right I dont show anything and Türkiye only seemed to be attempt,but at least armenians can support this attempt by suggesting another opinions instead of refuse.Or else Why armenians waiting for Türkiye about any attempt.Why armenians say that "we want to have an international comission in which indipendent historians will duscuss this issue,so that armenians's rightness will be proven all over the world" and if Türkiye refuse this suggestion,everyone will see that the side avoiding discussing realities is Türkiye. why do you always expect that Only Turkiye should suggest something. By suggesting a discussion platform,you have a chance to make Türkiye in difficulty!


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            Originally Posted by Anonymouse
            Since you cannot engage in a discussion, and since you seem to already know all the answers to everything with a predetermined mind, why are you here?..
            History is written by agreement of scientists and documents-evidences NOT by the decisions of councils or prejudices

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            • Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

              It is clear to me the wisdom "if you don't succeed, try try again" does not and should not apply to trying to reason with turks, who seem bent on substituting reason and decency with bold font and large red font.
              Last edited by karoaper; 08-20-2006, 08:35 PM.

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              • Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

                Originally posted by karoaper
                It is clear to me the wisdom "if you don't succeed, try try again" does not and should not apply to trying to reason with turks, who seem bent on substituting reason and decency with bold font and large red font.
                I guess we better catch on this font fad that is sweeping Turkey.
                Achkerov kute.

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                  ...Turkey become to EU member,and because EU need fresh working hands.And nobody gare whath they doing in >1915<...It is the fakt!
                  And only xxxs can have holocaust.It is their smart buisnes...
                  What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?...Same situation like kurds have today...
                  PS!F...k english language..

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                  • Re: What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?

                    Originally posted by skhara
                    What a waste of bandwidth.


                    Turk:



                    There is no debate with that. One only needs to guard against it.
                    Thanks for your boundless imagination, but it is just an imagination.....
                    Now,I want to show you an armenian but it is real:

                    armenian:
                    Ermeni soykırımı, ermeni sorunu, ermeni meselesi, ermeni tehciri, 1915 olayları, ermeni diasporası, 93 harbi, türk ermeni ilişkileri, van isyanı, asala, soykırı

                    this photo is more disgusting than your imaginary photo

                    As you said,there is no debate with that
                    History is written by agreement of scientists and documents-evidences NOT by the decisions of councils or prejudices

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                      Originally posted by KotkaS
                      What would have happened today if the Armenians were not displaced from Turkey?...Same situation like kurds have today...
                      PS!F...k english language..
                      if armenians were not massacres and raped and killed thousands of turks and kurds and if they were not stab their country from behind so were they going to be prime minister and minister to Turkiye?

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