Why do Turks reject Genocide?&Hidden Armenians

[melikianAvak]

Re: Why do Turks reject Genocide?&Hidden Armenians

it s ugly for you. it is relativity but it's Turkish flag and please respect it, like us and one Turkish said that your flag is ugly you said that you are racist and you killed my mom and you are barbarian

I will never respect that piece of crap or the BS out of your mouth. My family was murdered and you want me to respect.

Take you flag and your self were someone wants you. We are tired of your BS. Eat Shxt and Dxe you piece of Shxt.

[Anoush]

Re: Why do Turks reject Genocide?&Hidden Armenians

cause it never been happened
ok i accepted yourparent was deportation by Turkish goverment

and always when ıt was deportation somebody was died. it'snot uncontrol

EXCUSE ME??? 1.5 Million Armenians were savagely tortured then massacred by the then Turkish Ittihadist government Mister. My own father was the only survivor out of his immediate family of 14 members. Not to mention his mother's side who lived in another nearby city were all massacred as well.

On my maternal grandfather's side out of 30 members, only my grandfather, his younger brother and his sister survived.

On my mother's mother side (my own grandmother) in 1922 in Smyrna out of her 150 members huge family only 5 survived. My grandmother her younger brother, her sister, another brother and a cousin. My grandmother with her siblings they hid under dead corpses to escape the Turkish gendarmes that were going after every Armenian in the city to kill them in cold blood. My grandmother went to her cousin's house who was 8 months pregnant and the gendarmes cut out her belly open to get the baby out so that they can see and check it out if the baby was a boy or a girl. Then they were hitting my grandmother on her shoulder with a gun when her 3 year old nephew intervened to spare my grandmother from getting hit and the savage Turkish gendarmes beheaded the 3 year old boy in front of his mother and his aunt; because he intervened. Those animals beheaded a 3 year old little baby boy. Can you get any more barbaric than that??????

Under the calculated orders of the animals (the Ittihadist government) the Turkish bashe xxxooks and the barbaric Turkish gendarmes severely tortured, raped then killed, beheaded and annihilated practically the whole Armenian nationality. And you are going to sit in your home, sitting in front of your computer and deny to us all???? Then I will say this..... you could be as murderous as those animals who tortured, raped and killed my family and my race.

Now go away.

[Monastras]

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We can not accept any sort of torture that was committed to anybody. Anybody who commits this sort of crime must be punished severely. But you must also realize that many stories you are told are probably false, manipulated by the story tellers. I have read dozens of survivor stories about Armenians some of the stories are unbelievable which you can find lots of discrepancy. But does it matter for Armenians, Of course not. They expect you to believe all these stories wholeheartedly. If you are interested in what I am talking about I can give you examples from a few prominent survivors book written by the daughter or the son of the survivors.

I think I have got the answer for my question in regarding why Armenians were fighting against Turks during Word war I. One Armenian fellow said that “they were fighting for freedom as they were oppressed for thousand years. But this does not justify deportation.” I am not a strong person towards human tragedy which they affect me heavily. But when it comes to survival of a community I think it justifies deportation as long as they arrive at their destination safely. It is pointless to complain about deportation and its losses but on the other hand, try to gain freedom. If you want to gain freedom from a country on the country’s territory, they will do every thing to stop you. If they can not stop you it would be western Armenia, if they can stop you it becomes Armenian genocide.

You must accept that most of the Armenian intellectuals were stupid enough to promote terrorism and separatism in those days, Even though they have no power to liberate a small territory. This is madness. You should blame them not the Turkish government. I understand that Ottoman government was not the best government which looks after its citizens very well. But this can not be the major reason to rebel against the government. The first prime minister of Armenia clearly told in his manifesto that “Turks did exactly what they ought to do. We did not know how powerful they are. We used to have a peaceful language with Turks but we simply did not do it and this is the terrible consequences”

[Anoush]

Re: Why do Turks reject Genocide?&Hidden Armenians

We can not accept any sort of torture that was committed to anybody. Anybody who commits this sort of crime must be punished severely. But you must also realize that many stories you are told are probably false, manipulated by the story tellers. I have read dozens of survivor stories about Armenians some of the stories are unbelievable which you can find lots of discrepancy. But does it matter for Armenians, Of course not. They expect you to believe all these stories wholeheartedly. If you are interested in what I am talking about I can give you examples from a few prominent survivors book written by the daughter or the son of the survivors.

I think I have got the answer for my question in regarding why Armenians were fighting against Turks during Word war I. One Armenian fellow said that “they were fighting for freedom as they were oppressed for thousand years. But this does not justify deportation.” I am not a strong person towards human tragedy which they affect me heavily. But when it comes to survival of a community I think it justifies deportation as long as they arrive at their destination safely. It is pointless to complain about deportation and its losses but on the other hand, try to gain freedom. If you want to gain freedom from a country on the country’s territory, they will do every thing to stop you. If they can not stop you it would be western Armenia, if they can stop you it becomes Armenian genocide.

You must accept that most of the Armenian intellectuals were stupid enough to promote terrorism and separatism in those days, Even though they have no power to liberate a small territory. This is madness. You should blame them not the Turkish government. I understand that Ottoman government was not the best government which looks after its citizens very well. But this can not be the major reason to rebel against the government. The first prime minister of Armenia clearly told in his manifesto that “Turks did exactly what they ought to do. We did not know how powerful they are. We used to have a peaceful language with Turks but we simply did not do it and this is the terrible consequences”

So now because you say it I am not supposed to believe my own father's story, my own maternal grandfathers' stories nor my own maternal grandmothers' stories. Nor am I supposed to believe zillions of survivors' stories nor my father's town's book written by the only survivors (two sisters) who were deported along with many women, children and old men and women who finally came to a destination in the Arabian deserts ONLY TO BE PUSHED AND DITCHED IN A CAVE AND THE WHOLE CARAVAN OF HELPLESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN WERE MASSACRED.... KILLED IN COLD BLOOD. Only two sisters survived by falling back and escaping from the caravan of walking women and children by the so called supervision of the gendarmes who later killed them all. The rest of the women understood that the two sisters were escaping and they told them PLEASE TELL TO THE WORLD. TELL TO THE WORLD THE TORTURES.... OUR UNBELIEVABLE HORRIFIC FATE... PLEASE LET THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW!!!!! LET THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW!!!!!!! And that is why those two sisters from Vilayet of Xarpert wrote that book to do the wishes of those poor women and children for after walking from Xarpert to all the way down to the Arabian deserts in that heat without shoes, without food, without water... THEIR FATE WAS TO BE KILLED AT THE END.... TO BE KILLED IN COLD BLOOD.

DO YOU CALL THAT DEPORTATION??????????

I call that the murder of a nation. THE ARMENIAN NATION.

One and a half million Armenians that were annihilated.... were humble and the best citizens of Turkey. They did not fight.... they did not do anything wrong in their entire life except work long and hard to make crops and feed your Turkish people with their hard work. Those poor and helpless Armenian women and children did not commit any crime against Turkey to have a horrific fate like that. Nor did the helpless old men nor the old women.

It is clear to me that you and your friend Erlik are denialists in the worse sense of the word, and you don't want to admit what the Ittihadist murderous government committed the most horrific crime against humanity of the twentieth century, which was a Genocide to the Armenian race. The Armenian race that worked long and hard in your country as hard working countrymen, they payed extreme high taxes to your government and they have fed your Turkish people with their hard work. And what did your Ittihadist murderous government do? They have cut the hands that fed them and their Turkish people!!!!!!!

[melikianAvak]

Re: Why do Turks reject Genocide?&Hidden Armenians

We can not accept any sort of torture that was committed to anybody. Anybody who commits this sort of crime must be punished severely. But you must also realize that many stories you are told are probably false, manipulated by the story tellers. I have read dozens of survivor stories about Armenians some of the stories are unbelievable which you can find lots of discrepancy. But does it matter for Armenians, Of course not. They expect you to believe all these stories wholeheartedly. If you are interested in what I am talking about I can give you examples from a few prominent survivors book written by the daughter or the son of the survivors.

I think I have got the answer for my question in regarding why Armenians were fighting against Turks during Word war I. One Armenian fellow said that “they were fighting for freedom as they were oppressed for thousand years. But this does not justify deportation.” I am not a strong person towards human tragedy which they affect me heavily. But when it comes to survival of a community I think it justifies deportation as long as they arrive at their destination safely. It is pointless to complain about deportation and its losses but on the other hand, try to gain freedom. If you want to gain freedom from a country on the country’s territory, they will do every thing to stop you. If they can not stop you it would be western Armenia, if they can stop you it becomes Armenian genocide.

You must accept that most of the Armenian intellectuals were stupid enough to promote terrorism and separatism in those days, Even though they have no power to liberate a small territory. This is madness. You should blame them not the Turkish government. I understand that Ottoman government was not the best government which looks after its citizens very well. But this can not be the major reason to rebel against the government. The first prime minister of Armenia clearly told in his manifesto that “Turks did exactly what they ought to do. We did not know how powerful they are. We used to have a peaceful language with Turks but we simply did not do it and this is the terrible consequences”

It is not Armenian Genocide, It is the Genocide of the Armenians

You may or may not know it, but you are very insulting.

Please go away, we do not need your distorted veiw and BS opinion.

[Erlik]

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I will never respect that piece of crap or the BS out of your mouth. My family was murdered and you want me to respect.

Take you flag and your self were someone wants you. We are tired of your BS. Eat Shxt and Dxe you piece of Shxt.

i respect you and respect me

[KarotheGreat]

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qadzi tznuntner do you know what I've heard of my grategrand mother, that when she was a chilled when the turkish attack the village the only way she survided was bacause she was hidden under the bodies of her familie members. please tell me what purpose those she have fot telling propoganda you ugly ter gunadz ner all of you Turks take your BS and get the xxxx out of here

[Anoush]

Re: Why do Turks reject Genocide?&Hidden Armenians

i respect you and respect me

Like my friend told you what to do.

Get the hell out of this Forum and take your xxxxty flag with you.

[Anoush]

Re: Why do Turks reject Genocide?&Hidden Armenians

qadzi tznuntner do you know what I've heard of my grategrand mother, that when she was a chilled when the turkish attack the village the only way she survided was bacause she was hidden under the bodies of her familie members. please tell me what purpose those she have fot telling propoganda you ugly ter gunadz ner all of you Turks take your BS and get the xxxx out of here

Dear KarothGreat:

Don't let those two turks make your blood pressure go high; they aren't worth it. What our families and our nation went through only we know; because we felt it on our skin through our fathers and grandparents and what we do not have today the remnants of our great nation. What we were supposed to have as a nation today (more like 60-100 million by now) instead of 7.5 or 8 million. Thanks to them (the bloody turks) they minimized our nationality to this extent.

There is no turk like a dead turk!!!!

[uysaler11]

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you know what, xxxx ARMENIAN, they should get over the past....they got their land....they want more.....and this thing will never be over with......and xxxx all you armenians you guys just dont stop now do u