Genocide Argument

[Darorinag]

Don't even begin to compare yourself to the Germans! At least they don't deny it.

Deny what?

Just one question:

Fadi said: "his so-called statistics were barrowed Ottoman numbers and did not coincide with Russian ones"

Since when are we considering Russian statistics reliable? (think Katyn massacre, Soviet purges) And here I am neither saying that Ottoman stats are reliable either, nor am I trying to prove anything (or taking any sides)... Just wondering..

[Stark Evade]

Since when are we considering Russian statistics reliable? (think Katyn massacre, Soviet purges) And here I am neither saying that Ottoman stats are reliable either, nor am I trying to prove anything (or taking any sides)... Just wondering..

That fact that the numbers are dissimilar is reason for an unbiased party to not pick one over the other.

[Darorinag]

That is what I mean.. if one cannot take the Ottoman numbers for granted, then one also cannot take another biased party's numbers for granted either... that's just logic 101.. and by pointing that out, one isn't taking sides in this argument (so all of you who will attack me for this, think twice)..

[Fadix2]

Deny what?

Just one question:

Fadi said: "his so-called statistics were barrowed Ottoman numbers and did not coincide with Russian ones"

Since when are we considering Russian statistics reliable? (think Katyn massacre, Soviet purges) And here I am neither saying that Ottoman stats are reliable either, nor am I trying to prove anything (or taking any sides)... Just wondering..

Hey disturbed clown, why don't you read what others write only after having taken your medications?

I never claimed Russian statistics being accurate, the point here was that a Russian figure used by the Turks uses statistics that were not Russian in origine, but rather appeared to be a copy of Ottoman ones... no Russian officials would do that, unless the work that is claimed to be his has been forged during the translation and that the numbers were changed by Turks in order later to be used to support their points.

But again, I don't expect you to comprehend that.

Oh and, havn't I told you to get out of my way?

[Darorinag]

no Russian officials would do that

why would they not do that? Russian officials have shown on more than one occasion that they have made an industry out of forging documents and stats. So my argument was not about ACCURACY, but RELIABILITY. Are Russian stats reliable? No they are not, and never have been historically. So to even say that his numbers were not based on the Russian ones (as if the Russian ones would've been accurate anyway) as an argument to prove that he was wrong, is wrong.

As for this:

Mayewskis "reports" original is nowhere to be found(His so-called statistics were barrowed Ottoman numbers and did not coincide with Russian ones)... the only versions we have are those translated by Mehmed Sadik, at the Ottoman war intelligentsia headquarter...

Many of the "originals" of the "documents" and "proofs" of the holocaust are nowhere to be found. Does that mean the holocaust didn't take place, or that it can't be proven that it did? If it does, then I think you spammed this forum for 20 pages with your name-calling in the holocaust thread a while back without having any point, and here now you are resorting to double standards.

As for the rest of your intimidations and name-calling, blah blah blah blah blah. You know, you might get your knowledge and intelligence across if you actually stopped the base tactic of name-calling.

[Fadix2]

why would they not do that? Russian officials have shown on more than one occasion that they have made an industry out of forging documents and stats. So my argument was not about ACCURACY, but RELIABILITY. Are Russian stats reliable? No they are not, and never have been historically. So to even say that his numbers were not based on the Russian ones (as if the Russian ones would've been accurate anyway) as an argument to prove that he was wrong, is wrong.

As for this:


Many of the "originals" of the "documents" and "proofs" of the holocaust are nowhere to be found. Does that mean the holocaust didn't take place, or that it can't be proven that it did? If it does, then I think you spammed this forum for 20 pages with your name-calling in the holocaust thread a while back without having any point, and here now you are resorting to double standards.

As for the rest of your intimidations and name-calling, blah blah blah blah blah. You know, you might get your knowledge and intelligence across if you actually stopped the base tactic of name-calling.

Pest, I wish not to answer nor read your charades of words. Live by your insanity but respect others liberty when they don't want to be infected by the human equivalent of what we might consider tuberculoses.

I have nothing more to add, as I am aware, extrem argumentativness is one of the symptoms of schizophrenia, and life is enought short to deal with psychotics in daily basis.

Regards to members of this forum, as I am out of here, the member that was reponsable of my presence is gone, so as I for now...

[Darorinag]

To quote you:

[Fadi] dear where is my answer?

Adios!

[IvyLipstick]

thanx ck, I also got ANC's email about that..
it's just too bad we have Armenians like "Anileve" here, who think we're being "rough" on turks of today, when we're trying to uncover the truth...
so much for being an "Armenian"...
with that kinda Armenians... I dunno how much we're gonna be able to do about this!

Even though I am NOT Armenian, I can agree totally with that. It is because of her prissy falsified notions that many Armenians like her have thwarted the Armenian cause, I can already see here and it would be better if these types of Armenians were "absent" if you know what I mean, since they negatively effect you all.


Armenians shall further suffer due to oafs such as that person who will misguide us all once again and that is really just because they lack in the ability to foresight and do not have a 20/20 hindsight.

[IvyLipstick]

Pest, I wish not to answer nor read your charades of words. Live by your insanity but respect others liberty when they don't want to be infected by the human equivalent of what we might consider tuberculoses.

I have nothing more to add, as I am aware, extrem argumentativness is one of the symptoms of schizophrenia, and life is enought short to deal with psychotics in daily basis.

Regards to members of this forum, as I am out of here, the member that was reponsable of my presence is gone, so as I for now...

Don't leave. All you have to do is when he talks is get the pesticide out and spray, which I am sure he is used to by now since rumors tell me he is known for getting "sprayed" by other tube-like things.


He bats for that team.

[IvyLipstick]

why would they not do that? Russian officials have shown on more than one occasion that they have made an industry out of forging documents and stats. So my argument was not about ACCURACY, but RELIABILITY. Are Russian stats reliable? No they are not, and never have been historically. So to even say that his numbers were not based on the Russian ones (as if the Russian ones would've been accurate anyway) as an argument to prove that he was wrong, is wrong.

As for this:


Many of the "originals" of the "documents" and "proofs" of the holocaust are nowhere to be found. Does that mean the holocaust didn't take place, or that it can't be proven that it did? If it does, then I think you spammed this forum for 20 pages with your name-calling in the holocaust thread a while back without having any point, and here now you are resorting to double standards.

As for the rest of your intimidations and name-calling, blah blah blah blah blah. You know, you might get your knowledge and intelligence across if you actually stopped the base tactic of name-calling.

Yes, Dan's improvised facts are more reliable guys, choose his or else