Genocide Argument

[Archetype8]

Until a Turk mourns or sympathizes for the bloodshed they've done towards our people, we have every right in the world to see them as under-classed cretins who barged in from a Mongol descent from central Asia right into Eastern Europe (Armenia) and Asia minor. They even went to desperate lengths to "westernize" their Asiatic barbaric tribe by changing their official original letters (Turkic) to Latin, in an effort to supposedly "Europeanize."

[jgm1975]

What the Turkish did, is by far one of the most shocking things I have ever known about, and believe me I do have sympathy. But I do not believe that anger towards turks now will solve anything. People change, and the turks that were involved in the genoicde differ from the turks that exist today. I am aware that some turkish adolences still shout out hateful things to armenians, but I believe it is only from lack of knowledge. You cannot strike down an entire race on the mistakes others have made in their past. It is like saying, I am a nazi, due to the fact that I am of German heritage. It just isnt right.

I understand your point of view. But most Armenians are not trying to spread hateful propaganda against the Turks. All they want is for the Turks to acknowledge their crimes so that both Armenians and Turks can move forward. Regarding the Germans, the reason why people no longer associate ordinary Germans with Nazis is because the Germans, after WWII, acknowledged the crimes of the Nazis and rejected their legacy. The Turks never did that. Worse, if you quiz some Turkish officials in depth, they have this "They asked for it" attitude with regards to what happened to the Armenians, saying that the Armenians were a threat to the Ottoman Empire because they were allied with the Russians. They also have some nostalgia for the Ottoman Empire days, when the massacres happened, whereas in Germany it is forbidden to have any praise for the days of the Third Reich.

Fighting hatred with hatred just isnt going to do any good. An eye for an eye? As ghandi said it, "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."

Well said. I think that anyone who disagrees with the quote above should not claim to be a member of the human species.

[Archetype8]

I understand your point of view. But most Armenians are not trying to spread hateful propaganda against the Turks. All they want is for the Turks to acknowledge their crimes so that both Armenians and Turks can move forward. Regarding the Germans, the reason why people no longer associate ordinary Germans with Nazis is because the Germans, after WWII, acknowledged the crimes of the Nazis and rejected their legacy. The Turks never did that. Worse, if you quiz some Turkish officials in depth, they have this "They asked for it" attitude with regards to what happened to the Armenians, saying that the Armenians were a threat to the Ottoman Empire because they were allied with the Russians. They also have some nostalgia for the Ottoman Empire days, when the massacres happened, whereas in Germany it is forbidden to have any praise for the days of the Third Reich.


Well said. I think that anyone who disagrees with the quote above should not claim to be a member of the human species.

Thank you for pointing that out to correct her misconceived notions about our people. However, really there is no use of that now because she already showed that she is crippled from the thighs up.

[HyeJinx1984]

I'm responding more to the early comments made on this thread (the first page) so this may not really pertain to whatever the conversation is at this point.

Regarding Armenians having blind hatred for Turks, there's no way to say we are right or wrong in feeling that. What people do has never really been of interest to me, what does interest me is WHY people do things. If an Armenian doesn't know anything about anything and hates Turks simply cause that's what his parents keep telling him to feel, then yes that is ignorance. If an Armenian has done research, learned history, keeps on top of world politicals and still comes to the same conclusion of hating Turks, then he is not ignorant, he knows WHY he feels that way. I like to think I fall into that latter catagory.

[IvyLipstick]

Yes I have seen footages of like innocent Armenians slaughtered at the hands of those middle-eastern pious killers. Armenians have all the right in my opinion to say what they will and are going to say, there is no doubt about that.

[Tufan]

Hi from Turkey

Hello everbody,
I am from Ankara/Turkey. I was just surfing on the net and found your forum site. Actually I do not want to disturb you beacuse as I read from previous messages the common point of you is to hate Turks. OK,you hate us because of history, it is understandable although me and most of the Turks do not think like you about the history and I am ready to talk about history with anyone who is ready to talk in a civilised manner. But what I want to say is something different. It is interesting that you, Armenians living at USA,Canada,France,etc. hate us but Armenians in Turkey and a lot of them in Armenia do not hate from us. From my point of view-agree or not-you, the Armenians who born and live in western countries hate from us because this hate is the only link with your Armenian identity. You created a myth about the history which reminds your origin. This is not healty behaviour on mentally. Do you really think that we are barbarians that drink human blood? Is any of yoy been in Turkey? Because if you had been in Turkey even once, you understand that we are not the people that you imaginated in your minds. Anyway, if you feel yourself happy with believing Turks are bastards, go on. I really sorry for the Armenians who died at WW1 but please do not forget that the number of Turks who died at WW1 is much more than Armenians. I love Armenians, we have a lot of similiarities. Our cultures are very similiar (maybe not with you but the Armenians in Turkey and Armenia) It is very bad that you all lost all these good culural habits and only thing reamined to you from us is to hate Turks. Again I am sorry if I disturb you.

[nairi]

I hope you realize that one of the reasons we "hate" Turks like you is for what you wrote in the above. Now get lost.

[Virgil]

I hope you realize that one of the reasons we "hate" Turks like you is for what you wrote in the above. Now get lost.

I agree with, endorse, and support the above statement.

[Anonymouse]

the Armenians who born and live in western countries hate from us because this hate is the only link with your Armenian identity. You created a myth about the history which reminds your origin.This is not healty behaviour on mentally.

When you write bromide such as this, what do you think we are going to do? Accept you with open arms and have drinks and parade around, when your ancestors had the heads of my great grandparents on the tips of their scimitars? Don't be ridiculous.

Do you really think that we are barbarians that drink human blood? Is any of yoy been in Turkey?

Yes and no. Them Asiatic warrior genes are strong you folks.

[IvyLipstick]

Hello everbody,
I am from Ankara/Turkey. I was just surfing on the net and found your forum site. Actually I do not want to disturb you beacuse as I read from previous messages the common point of you is to hate Turks. OK,you hate us because of history, it is understandable although me and most of the Turks do not think like you about the history and I am ready to talk about history with anyone who is ready to talk in a civilised manner. But what I want to say is something different. It is interesting that you, Armenians living at USA,Canada,France,etc. hate us but Armenians in Turkey and a lot of them in Armenia do not hate from us. From my point of view-agree or not-you, the Armenians who born and live in western countries hate from us because this hate is the only link with your Armenian identity. You created a myth about the history which reminds your origin. This is not healty behaviour on mentally. Do you really think that we are barbarians that drink human blood? Is any of yoy been in Turkey? Because if you had been in Turkey even once, you understand that we are not the people that you imaginated in your minds. Anyway, if you feel yourself happy with believing Turks are bastards, go on. I really sorry for the Armenians who died at WW1 but please do not forget that the number of Turks who died at WW1 is much more than Armenians. I love Armenians, we have a lot of similiarities. Our cultures are very similiar (maybe not with you but the Armenians in Turkey and Armenia) It is very bad that you all lost all these good culural habits and only thing reamined to you from us is to hate Turks. Again I am sorry if I disturb you.

Unlike you savages that stole land from Armenian people, the Armenians do not "hate" since they are Christians and devoted to that. I honestly would not blame them though since they have all of the right in the world to despise your pious murders upon a group of innocent people that your ancestors cowardly killed. Yet, you are STILL trying to justify it? Listen, the guilty are the first to speak. You obviously are too stung by the ignorance of your ancestors therefore you had to let your petty rage out on Armenians by going as far as joining their own forum. Look, your bickering is not going to stop Armenians or myself ( I am not Armenian by the way) from denying your cruel ways. You guys as far as my knowledge goes, should be exterminated for your shameful lies and reprehensible excuses for slaughtering a bunch of people, it is too late save your "Sorry" ass some dignity and get the hell out.