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  • #41
    Originally posted by glz88
    Don't hate a Turk because he is a Turk. You have to look at individuals. People are driven by a force. A political force turned those Turks against armenians and filled their heads w/ propaganda. If you start hating the whole nation for what a few have done and are willing to kill them all what do you think they are going to think of us. They will think we are a bunch of lowlife hooligans that deserved to be killed. While if we try to make something better for ourselves and show them that they butchered intellectuals they will regret it. I think lately there has been more activity on the genocide. But the turks see it as world wide propoganda. If they don't change their way of thinking we will have to or they will never accept the fact.
    WHO CARES what they THINK of us? Not like it matters and if it matters to you please, pour some gas and light a match because you're living to satisfy others opinions not benefitting your own community. Do they care what we or the world thinks of them? They're pious killers yet they still do not seem to care to acknowledge that, therefore it is unnecessary.
    I'm sorry that I was such an idiot.

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    • #42
      Turks will never sacrifice their wealth that belongs to Armenians that they already have mercilessly stolen. They will never accept it unless there is a greater power making them. We with the help of God, if you must, should be that power who enforces their decisions based upon our standards and or consent, primarily.
      I'm sorry that I was such an idiot.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Deviance
        Their acts are all facades that naive Armenians like you would only fall for.
        i am not naive, there are turks who like armenians, so what?
        an im not talking about turkish politicans or media/journalist figures.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Tres Bien
          i am not naive, there are turks who like armenians, so what?
          an im not talking about turkish politicans or media/journalist figures.
          Yea, just like there were angels who resented everything and every single aspect of the Creator. What is your point? Those few that do like them, they like the women who engage in prostitution. Turks were never throughout history even decent people. They were born and trained to massacre for pious reasons. Simply read up on their centrial Asian history. They are the Mamlukes and they come from Tars. Tars in essence come from Mongols and that is what and who the soldiers of Ghengis Khan were. It's like recruiting sentenced for life criminals from prison and putting them in the army to kill for whatever they want. Of course the trade-off is a lot more better than staying in prison.


          If half of them even did feel remorseful for their ancestors acts towards our people, then why are they not contributing here? The civilians in this free nation refuse completely to acknowledge a genocide or help in anyway to at least apologize for their ancestors' genocidal plunderings.
          Last edited by Deviance; 06-16-2004, 10:01 AM.
          I'm sorry that I was such an idiot.

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          • #45
            As I said before, they spawn from an ignorant skewed root and we cannot really expect much from those sorts of seeds. It is our moral duty to simply put this whole campaign thing to work and do it successfully.
            I'm sorry that I was such an idiot.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Baron Dants
              Turkey never shows up with any facts at any symposiums held by Armenians. This means that Turkey doesn't have anything to say, right?

              Please, just give it up. It is a historical truth, and you will be doing greater good to your country by finally accepting it then by running away from it.
              They don't because their crime surfaces easily now and it is slowly coming about. They will appear even more guilty if they just happen to show up. This is why I say certain Armenians are naive saps and can never have enough dignity or logic or pride to demonstrate hubris and surmount over this odd. They keep giving sharks more blood and hoping this time the nature of the shark obliterates just because they are in different waters.
              I'm sorry that I was such an idiot.

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              • #47
                Yes, the little "evidence" they come up with is truly sad.
                This Turkish man, after the Taner Akcam lecture, approached Dr. Akçam and gave him a booklet published by a bunch of Turkish university students, as if a genocide scholar had things to learn from them.

                During the lecture, the same man asked "why don't people use Ottoman archives? Of course that foreign consuls will make up lies about the Turks." He, of course, was ignoring the fact that most of Dr. Akçam's research is based on Ottoman archives.

                It's like they have a set of questions and comments which they will use whenever they have the chance, regardless of the situation.

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                • #48
                  What the Turkish did, is by far one of the most shocking things I have ever known about, and believe me I do have sympathy. But I do not believe that anger towards turks now will solve anything. People change, and the turks that were involved in the genoicde differ from the turks that exist today. I am aware that some turkish adolences still shout out hateful things to armenians, but I believe it is only from lack of knowledge. You cannot strike down an entire race on the mistakes others have made in their past. It is like saying, I am a nazi, due to the fact that I am of German heritage. It just isnt right. Fighting hatred with hatred just isnt going to do any good. An eye for an eye? As ghandi said it, "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."

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                  • #49
                    But when you do not commit youre crimes, its because you have a good reason not too, in turkeys case it means, you get away with anything you do today.

                    Because in no way was the armenian genocide a one time - atrocitiy but today they continue through azerbadjian and on their own ethnic minorites and cause death and devastation.

                    In azerbadjian pogroms was carried out on the armenian population not that long ago, in the same brutal style as they did during the atrocities of 1915-___genocide.
                    Last edited by Tres Bien; 07-22-2004, 12:21 PM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by sad_eyes
                      What the Turkish did, is by far one of the most shocking things I have ever known about, and believe me I do have sympathy. But I do not believe that anger towards turks now will solve anything. People change, and the turks that were involved in the genoicde differ from the turks that exist today. I am aware that some turkish adolences still shout out hateful things to armenians, but I believe it is only from lack of knowledge. You cannot strike down an entire race on the mistakes others have made in their past. It is like saying, I am a nazi, due to the fact that I am of German heritage. It just isnt right. Fighting hatred with hatred just isnt going to do any good. An eye for an eye? As ghandi said it, "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."
                      What exactly are you trying to say with that? You are basically encouraging their government to have another reason to deny their heinous crime. The whole reason why there is this much tensions now even amongst the present day Turks and Armenians about this issue, is because of the fact that the "Turks today" refuse to acknowledge their ancestors' cowardly crime against humanity which in this case it was upon the Armenians.

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