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  • #41
    Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

    The Boston Globe Editorial
    Globe Editorial

    No synonyms for genocide

    August 18, 2007

    ONE SHOULDN'T play geopolitics with genocide. The executive committee of the
    Anti-Defamation League for New England showed sound moral judgment this week
    when it acknowledged that, just like the destruction of the xxxs in Europe
    and the Tutsis in Rwanda, the slaughter of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire
    was a horrific crime against humanity.

    All three genocides had particular historical characteristics, but they have
    universal significance as a recurring evil that needs to be identified
    properly so that humankind recognizes its early stages and takes action to
    prevent mass slaughter.

    But the national ADL apparently thinks that it can pick and choose among
    genocides. Yesterday it fired Andrew Tarsy, the regional director, for
    urging the national organization to acknowledge the reality of what happened
    from 1915 to 1917 in what is now Turkey. The ADL plans to run an
    advertisement in the Globe and other newspapers explaining its position.

    In a telephone interview yesterday, James Rudolph, the regional ADL
    chairman, called Tarsy an extraordinary leader. Indeed, Tarsy was acting in
    the best ADL tradition of trying to unite people of different ethnic groups,
    in this case xxxs and Armenians, to promote human rights.

    The national ADL, in its ad, does condemn the killing of hundreds of
    thousands of Armenians but can't quite describe this crime for what it was:
    genocide. The ADL says it is worried about the fate of the xxxish community
    in Turkey and Turkey's strategic relationships with the United States and
    Israel.

    But Turkey's treatment of its xxxish minority and its foreign policy
    shouldn't depend on a historical lie. If the national ADL doesn't
    acknowledge the genocide, it is complicit in a coverup.



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    • #42
      Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

      This story continues to gain steam...

      http://news.bostonherald.com/columni...icleid=1018030 (Columnist flames the ADL for its position with personal accounts of the Armenian genocide to boot..)


      (J-ewish press reports recent mounting pressure as "BREAKING NEWS" with reference to another New England J-ewish organization lauding Andrew Tarsy for standing up against the national ADL and standing with Boston area Armenians who have always stood with the Boston are J-ewish community in recognizing the Holocaust)


      (AP report of recent resignations of New England ADL board members republished in Boston Globe)


      (J-ewish press reports Foxman's firing of Tarsy as "BREAKING NEWS")


      (Turkish press reports Tarsy's firing)


      (New England ADL's rift with national ADL over Armenian genocide recognition appears on Motley Fool messageboard)


      (ADL controversy discussed on Canadian messageboard)


      (Self-proclaimed Boston neo-con applauds Tarsy for eventually choosing to be on right side of history)


      (Canadian activist based blog reposts J-ewcy article blasting Foxman)

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      (Internet content sifter tracks ADL genocide denial, flap-up as 'hot' story)


      (Politically charged messageboard goes medieval on Foxman's arse)

      ANCA for Eastern Mass. issues press release today re: most recent events that was not posted on national's website. Press release follows below:

      Armenian National Committee of Eastern Massachusetts
      47 Nichols Avenue
      Watertown, MA 02472
      [email protected]

      PRESS RELEASE
      For Immediate Release
      August 19, 2007
      Contact: Sevag Arzoumanian
      Tel: 617-233-3174

      FOXMAN FORCES SHAKEUP IN NEW ENGLAND ADL

      -- ADL National Leader Fires Regional Director Andrew H. Tarsy; Two Regional
      Board Members Resign in Protest

      -- ANC Calls for ADL National Leadership to End Genocide Denial; Support
      Armenian Genocide Legislation (H.Res.106 / S.Res.106)

      WATERTOWN, MA - Turmoil in the New England Regional Anti-Defamation League
      (ADL) continued this weekend with two Board Members resigning following the
      firing of Regional Director Andrew H. Tarsy, for public calls on ADL
      National Director Abe Foxman to reverse policy and properly characterize the
      Armenian Genocide, reported the Armenian National Committee of Eastern
      Massachusetts (ANC-EM).

      `We are disappointed and outraged to hear that Mr. Tarsy was removed from
      his position simply for speaking openly and honestly about the Armenian
      Genocide,' stated ANCEM chairperson Sharistan Melkonian. `Mr. Foxman and the
      ADL National Leadership are clearly out of step with their own membership,
      who have rightly concluded that genocide denial is morally indefensible and
      will only serve to diminish the credibility of this once-respected civil
      rights organization.'

      Reports of Tarsy's firing and the resignations by Stewart L. Cohen and
      Boston City Councilman Mike Ross came just days after the New England ADL
      Board voted to call on the ADL National leadership to reverse their
      position, properly characterize the Armenian Genocide as `genocide,' and
      support Armenian Genocide legislation (H.Res.106 / S.Res.106). According to
      an August 17th Boston Globe article, Tarsy told reporter Keith O'Brien, "I
      strongly disagree with ADL's national position. It's my strong hope that
      we'll be able to move forward in a relationship with the Armenian community
      and the community in general." Just 48 hours prior, Tarsy had defended the
      ADL National's genocide denial position at the Watertown Town Council.
      Tarsy, clearly uncomfortable in his remarks before the capacity crowd at the
      Council meeting, was challenged when he evaded the word `genocide' in
      describing the murder of over 1.5 million Armenians by the Ottoman

      Turkish government from 1915-1923. A myriad of Watertown residents urged the
      Town Council to take action, including ANC-EM spokesperson Grace Kehetian
      Kulegian, who stated `on behalf of Watertown's Armenian community - and our
      century-long history of service and sacrifice for our town - we call upon
      the Town Council to dissociate itself from the ADL until such time that: The
      Anti-Defamation League, through its National Director, Mr. Foxman, openly
      and unequivocally acknowledges the Armenian Genocide and supports
      congressional affirmation of this crime against humanity.

      The Watertown Town Council voted unanimously that evening to cut ties with
      the ADL, by disassociating with their `No Place for Hate' program.

      Following the New England ADL's public call for ADL National to reverse
      their position, the National ADL posted an `Open Letter to the New England
      Community,' refraining from characterizing the events of 1915-1923 as
      `genocide.' The letter also claimed that the ADL `takes no position' on
      Armenian Genocide legislation (H.Res.106 / S.Res.106) while stating `We
      believe that legislative efforts outside of Turkey are counterproductive to
      the goal of having Turkey itself come to grips with its past.'

      `Mr. Foxman is sadly reading from a page in the Turkish government's
      genocide denial playbook,' stated Melkonian. `Instead of helping Turkey
      confront this dark page in human history, the ADL is enabling its continued
      genocide denial - a decision which comes at the expense of its own
      reputation." The ADL statement comes as additional towns in Massachusetts
      prepare to follow Watertown's lead in ending their association with the ADL
      and Armenian Genocide denial.

      Foxman's claims of neutrality regarding Armenian Genocide legislation
      contradict earlier published statements in the Boston Globe and Los Angeles
      Times, where Foxman noted `The Turks and Armenians need to revisit their
      past. The xxxish community shouldn't be the arbiter of that history. And I
      don't think the U.S. Congress should be the arbiter either.' According to
      press reports, Foxman joined the American xxxish Committee, B'nai B'rith and
      JINSA in forwarding a letter from Turkey's xxxish Community citing concerns
      about Armenian Genocide legislation to Members of Congress. According to an
      April 27th xxxish Telegraphic Agency article by Ron Kampeas, the ADL and
      JINSA `added their own statements opposing the bill.'

      The Watertown - ADL controversy erupted in recent weeks, with Boston area
      civil rights advocates, and local Armenian and xxxish American community
      members expressing disappointment and outrage at recent statements by ADL
      National Director Abe Foxman denying the Armenian Genocide. Editorials and
      community letters in the local Watertown Tab and Boston Globe cast a shadow
      on the credibility of the anti-racism program, `No Place for Hate', due to
      its affiliation with the ADL.

      Reporter Keith O'Brien first reported Tarsy's firing in a front-page Boston
      Globe article on August 18th. The news was accompanied by a strongly worded
      Globe editorial, titled `No Synonyms for Genocide,' arguing that the
      national ADL should not `pick and choose among genocides,' and stating `if
      the national ADL doesn't acknowledge the [Armenian] genocide, it is
      complicit in a cover-up.' An op/ed coauthored by Massachusetts State
      Representative Rachel Kaprielian and Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz,
      published in the Boston Globe on the same day, noted `For any organization
      or official to believe that there are differing sides to the Armenian
      Genocide is as much an outrage as it would be for Germany to say that the
      work of xxxish scholars, witnesses, and victim testimonies represented
      merely the "xxxish side" of the Holocaust.' Kaprielian and Dershowitz went
      on to praise the New England Regional ADL for taking a principled stand,
      noting that the `regional chapter was courageous and correct in its decision
      to affirm its position that the [Armenian] genocide was fact.'

      For a full listing of the press coverage this issue has received, visit:
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      Last edited by freakyfreaky; 08-19-2007, 10:41 PM. Reason: additions
      Between childhood, boyhood,
      adolescence
      & manhood (maturity) there
      should be sharp lines drawn w/
      Tests, deaths, feats, rites
      stories, songs & judgements

      - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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      • #43
        Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

        The Jerusalem Post is Israel's most-read English news website and best-selling English newspaper bringing breaking news, world news & middle east news.

        (Israeli newssource publishes AP report re: National ADL's firing of head of New England ADL)


        (Republic of Georgia newssource publishes UPI report re: Foxman's firing of Tarsy)
        Between childhood, boyhood,
        adolescence
        & manhood (maturity) there
        should be sharp lines drawn w/
        Tests, deaths, feats, rites
        stories, songs & judgements

        - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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        • #44
          Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance


          (J-ewish newssource in Europe reports on Tarsy's firing by National ADL over stance on genocide recognition)


          (Armenian lobbying organization in Europe reports on Tarsy's firing)


          (same story reported on by Turkish newssource in U.S.)

          Hmm, and still not a peep from national for ANCA, AAA, USAPAC, ARMENPAC.

          And, notwithstanding the in-depth coverage of the Boston Globe, it is equally troubling that this story has not even scratched the surface when it comes to coverage by major news outlets.

          I don't know about bringing back the Fairness doctrine but apparently bias towards Armenian Americans, and its repercussions, is not as compelling a national news story as bias towards blacks, mexicans, or j-ews or a Holocaust symposium in Tehran, Iran, for that matter.
          Last edited by freakyfreaky; 08-20-2007, 08:35 AM.
          Between childhood, boyhood,
          adolescence
          & manhood (maturity) there
          should be sharp lines drawn w/
          Tests, deaths, feats, rites
          stories, songs & judgements

          - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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          • #45
            Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance


            (J-ewish newssource reports of in-fighting between Boston area donors and ADL national over firing of regional director Andrew Tarsy)


            (Right-wing blog identifies ADL as "Holocaust deniers")


            (Armenian newsource publishes AP report re: ADL's firing of Andrew Tarsy over his demand that ADL recognize Armenian Genocide)


            Armenian newssource citing Azerbaijani press agency, in U.S., reports on Tarsy's firing by Foxman:

            A FUNCTIONARY DISMISSED FROM ONE OF THE xxxS ORGANIZATIONS OF THE USA FOR RECOGNITION OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

            arminfo
            2007-08-20 12:46:00

            A one of the biggest xxxish organizations of the USA Anti-Defamation
            League has dismissed the responsible representative on New England
            Andrew Tarsy.

            As American office of the Azerbaijani APA news agency reports,
            Tarsy's statement on recognition of the 'Armenian genocide' became the
            reason of his dismissal. They said in the Anti-Defamation League that
            they don't deny the victims of the both sides during the events of
            1915. At the same time they said that if US Congress recognizes the
            Armenian genocide, this will make difficult historical research in
            Turkey. This xxxish organization thinks that taking such a decision
            will damage xxxish community of Turkey and will make normalizing of
            the relations with Armenia impossible.
            Last edited by freakyfreaky; 08-20-2007, 12:47 PM. Reason: additions
            Between childhood, boyhood,
            adolescence
            & manhood (maturity) there
            should be sharp lines drawn w/
            Tests, deaths, feats, rites
            stories, songs & judgements

            - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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            • #46
              Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance


              (ADL's firing of its New England regional director discussed on Catholicism messageboard; much sarcasm towards Foxman's biased position)

              Genocide question sparked bitter debate The Boston Globe By Keith O'Brien, Globe Staff August 18, 2007 The national Anti-Defamation League f...

              (Armenian blogger re-publishes Boston Globe article re: Tarsy's firing)


              (Same Boston Globe article re-published on Internet Science magazine website)


              (Internet content tracker keeps dibs on Foxman, row in Watertown covered)


              (Internet portal re-publishes UPI report re: Tarsy's filing as news)


              (Author posts Boston Globe's article re: Tarsy's filing and refers to ADL metaphorically as KKK; tracking several of the articles related to this matter)


              (Armenian blogger who was responsible for the "NO PLACE FOR DENIAL" logo; also, way ahead of the Watertown ADL controversy)


              (Public Radio of Armenian reports on Watertown's severing ties with the ADL)


              (Politically charged Massachussetts blog tracks Watertown/ADL controversy)


              (website tracking the stifling of speech re: U.S.-Israeli foreign policy blogs on the possibility that the ADL may self-destruct over Armenian genocide denial)


              (Indian internet portal publishes UPI report re: Tarsy's firing as news)


              (Conservative U.S. website publishes Boston Globe's article re: Tarsy's firing with open discussion re: topic that follows)

              http://adl.hayway.org/default_zone/d...nian_quest.pdf (Ara Abrahamayan's essay on "How to Achieve the Decision of the Problem of the Armenian Genocide")
              Between childhood, boyhood,
              adolescence
              & manhood (maturity) there
              should be sharp lines drawn w/
              Tests, deaths, feats, rites
              stories, songs & judgements

              - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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              • #47
                Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

                News sources are now reporting that Foxman has recently capitulated and recognizes the massacres of Armenians by the Ottoman Empire as "GENOCIDE".


                (Israel)

                Jewish organization makes dramatic U-turn four days after sacking regional director

                (Israel)

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                http://bostonist.com/2007/08/21/breaking_adl_no.php (ADL's press release)

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                (Providence TV channel)

                http://www.adl.org/PresRele/Mise_00/5114_00.htm (ADL press release)

                http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/103751.html (J-ewish press agency)

                http://www.telegram.com/article/20070821/APN/708210729 (Worcester, MA)
                Between childhood, boyhood,
                adolescence
                & manhood (maturity) there
                should be sharp lines drawn w/
                Tests, deaths, feats, rites
                stories, songs & judgements

                - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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                • #48
                  Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

                  Here are the stories and press releases leading up to ADL's capitulation re: acknowledgement of the Armenian Genocide...


                  (Massachussetts residents outside of Watertown including Holocaust and Genocide survivors and their ancestors are outraged at ADL's denial of the Armenian genocide)


                  (same story as above)


                  (local J-ewish leaders in Mass. join to support Tarsy and recognition of the Armenian genocide; being J-ewish requires recognizing the genocide of others; Never again means never again; do the right thing)

                  http://www.eafjd.org/spip.php?breve833&lang=en (European feed publishes statement of Massachussetts J-ewish leader that is discussed in article above)

                  http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nl/cont...241&ct=4284543 (This press release by AJC is pretty wishy-washy; as should be expected; hey Mr. Harris, rather than debate whether or not the massacres of Armenians was genocide, let us debate if Turkish xxxs were complicit in the Armenian genocide; your organization is already on the record as a Turkish apologist and a GENOCIDE DENIER)
                  Between childhood, boyhood,
                  adolescence
                  & manhood (maturity) there
                  should be sharp lines drawn w/
                  Tests, deaths, feats, rites
                  stories, songs & judgements

                  - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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                  • #49
                    Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance


                    (European Armenian Federation publishes Harut Sassounian's opinion piece indicating that J-ews, Armenians and others are demanding Abe Foxman's resignation)


                    (Mass. Armenians indicate that they are in Andrew Tarsy's corner)


                    (Another major Boston newspaper reports on ADL's reversing course and acknowledging massacre of Armenians by Ottomany Turkey as GENOCIDE)
                    Between childhood, boyhood,
                    adolescence
                    & manhood (maturity) there
                    should be sharp lines drawn w/
                    Tests, deaths, feats, rites
                    stories, songs & judgements

                    - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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                    • #50
                      Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance


                      (French newspaper publishes AP report about ADL acknowledging massacres of Armenians by Ottomoan Turks as "GENOCIDE")

                      A glimmer of hope that the ADL capitulated, but what a profound disgrace that they had to. And note that they are still taking a reactionary position on the Congressional resolution recognizing the Armenian genocide. Does Elie Wiesel, whose name they invoke... Read moreADL caves on Armenian genocide —but still opposes Congressional resolution

                      (blogger refers to recent press reports that ADL opines that ADL is still splitting hairs by relying on Elie Wiesel's position that what happened to the Armenians would be considered genocide if the word existed then and although ADL may acknowledge the massacres as genocide if the word existed when the massacres occurred, ADL is still opposed to Congressional recognition of the Armenian Genocide; as I've said before Elie Wiesel is nothing more than a Turkish apologist and GENCODIE DENIER in the same vein that Shimon Peres is - ADL's recapitulation is nothing more than more spin and distortion; denial of genocide is just another act of genocide and the ADL and Elie Wiesel are in cahoots re: causing Armenians to suffer ongoing genocide related to that heinous acts committed on Armenians by Turks)
                      Between childhood, boyhood,
                      adolescence
                      & manhood (maturity) there
                      should be sharp lines drawn w/
                      Tests, deaths, feats, rites
                      stories, songs & judgements

                      - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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