Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

[Sip]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

freakyfreaky,
For the record: The words "jurk/jurkish" that I use were coined many years ago ...

Who do you think coined it? But glad to see it caught on

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

I cannot confirm or deny who coined the word. I don't think it will go down in the history book that Sip invented the word, but here in our little corner of cyberspace, you or Siamanto can fight it out, verbally, over who should receive the accolades.

It is a very appropriate word. Anti-Armenian is far to myopic a term to describe the bias harbored and employed by the powers that be that would oppose Armenian Genocide recogniton to protect Turksihness.

And, to say that the debate on this matter is too passionate for consideration at the political level as was stated by certain individuals in these American J-ewish lobby organizations recently is insincere, offensive and hypocritical.

It is the remainders of 'passionate' debate about the Holocaust and the need to confront the debate that still funds these organizations to some extent and they have got so many Holocaust recognition and remembrance laws and resolutions and proclamations that you cannot even keep count.

Heck, within two months after Ahmadenijad's Holocaust symposium was blasted by the ADL, these organizations with the help of a Congressional member pushed a Holocaust Rememberance resolution through the U.N.

Thereafter, when the U.N. pulled a Genocide Recogntion display containing reference to the Armenian Tragedy because of pressure from Turkey did these organizations say anything. No. Not a peep. They cannot because they don't really represent reasonable American J-ews as they are really golem for Turkey and Israel.

God forbid the wrath any international, national, local organization, group, association or individual would experience from the American J-ewish lobby if a display was pulled because of mention of the Holocaust. We would not be able to get their disappointment off our TVs.

[TomServo]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

2. ThornyRose

Must be the same ThornyRose who ran a Network54 group called "Non-Turkish crimes against humanity"?

It's still up, but seems to be inactive: http://www.network54.com/Realm/Non_T...inst_Humanity/

[Siamanto]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

Siamanto, never claimed to have invented a new word, just bringing it to the table. Kind of like a topic for discussion. Viva la resistance.

freakyfreaky, I apologize if I seemed ambiguous, I was commenting Sipfrod's post even though I was addressing you - that is why his post was the main quote and yours the nested.
As a matter of fact, more than one person could have coined it - simultaneously or not; however, as we will see below, it's very very very unlikely that Sipfrod was among them. Sipfrod has no sense of Intellectual Integrity and my intent was to shed light on his lack of Intellectual Integrity and Honesty; and, most of all, on his hypocrisy, as we will see below.

I cannot confirm or deny who coined the word. I don't think it will go down in the history book that Sip invented the word, but here in our little corner of cyberspace, you or Siamanto can fight it out, verbally, over who should receive the accolades.

I agree that it is of little - or no - relevance who coined it, that is exactly why I have consciously omitted to identify the person; no, I did not forget to do so, it was a conscious omission. As mentioned above, it's was about Sipfrod's fraudulent habits and hypocrisy .

Now, let's consider the facts and assess the remote and extremely unlikely possibility that Sipfrod could have coined it:
1. He was among those who lobbied against its usage on Hi4um where it was finally banned.
For the record, that is exactly when and why I have started using the expression "*urk/*urkish" followed with

Note: I have chosen to auto censor the words "*urk," "*urkish" or *urkic" because it is commonly perceived as unpleasant and offending, evokes unpleasant emotions and imagery and is pregnant with immoral and evil connotations
Of course, I have never clarified whether '*' replaces 't' or 'j'

2. He goes ballistic each time J.e.ws are criticized for their role in the denial and/or fact of the Armenian Genocide.
In fact, he has always been an active member of what some called the "JDL" - i.e. the Jurkish anti Defamation League - with ThornyRose/Stormig, Imasdun/Fadix, winoman/THOT/Winston, nairi/tunot... who actively lobbied on Armenian forums to ban any discussion of the J.e.wish role and responsibility in the denial and/or the fact of the Armenian Genocide.
The same "JDL" vehemently lobbied to shutdown Armenian forums on network54

3. I would be surprised if anybody remembers Sipfrod having used it before????
In any case, as he did in the past, I won't be surprised to see him hack some site or forum to present it as a "proof."

4. I would silently stare and sarcastically smile, if told: "Sipfrod had nothing to do with the word 'J.e.w' being filtered."
(Please see note below.)

LOL After such a long track record, Mr. Sipfrod is dumb enough to be a hypocrite and pretend having coined it? LOL What was he thinking?
Obviously, fraud is the intellectual midget's only recourse; however, he's too stupid to think that he's smart enough to pull it off.

Now, I will leave it to the reader to assess the likelihood that Sipfrod have, actually, coined the word "jurk." He's really dumb enough to think that people may buy it!



Note:
Considering the explosive nature of the circumstances that lead to filter out - not censor - the word "J.e.w," I find it understandable and acceptable. In fact, considering that "workarounds" are allowed, I can't consider it as a censorship, but
1. A "bump" that invites the poster to slow down and think twice
2. A shield against search engines and, thus, unwanted visitors and unnecessary tensions and pressures that can, eventually, harm the forum
Actually, I am grateful that Mods/Admins are allowing the workarounds.

[Siamanto]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

Must be the same ThornyRose who ran a Network54 group called "Non-Turkish crimes against humanity"?

It's still up, but seems to be inactive: http://www.network54.com/Realm/Non_T...inst_Humanity/

Yes, that's her alias on network54 - at least one of them; it is well known that she uses many aliases and IPs, and resorts to other "hacks and tricks." One of her aliases on Hi4um was "stormig" and I won't be surprised if she had/has many accounts on AC as well.
She was also known as "HornyRose" because she had "private relationships" with many "Armenian" activists who fell for her - including some members of this forum.

She owned many forums and my first encounter - or clash - with winoman/THOTH/Winston and Imasdun/Fadix happened on one the forums that she owned, for having dared to claim our ancestral lands as rightfully ours. I believe that they were Mods????, if I remember correctly - it was a while ago; I don't know if Sipfrod was there, considering his "contribution," he could easily go unnoticed or forgotten.

However, I don't know if she's still active on network54, as I stayed away from those places for the last 4-5 years.
I don't know how it is now; but, in the past, non-Armenian forums where Armenians were active included USC - or the "Underground Serbian Cafe" - and CWE - or "Current World Events." The latter is owned by a jurk from Russia who happens to be a big fan of arabaliozian. Not recommended for everyone.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

Reasonable people agree the Armenian tragedy was genocide. Take a look at the record.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/08/congress_must_recognize_the_ar.html

(American issues website publishes blog based on historical, verifiable fact which proves genocide and bolsters support for controlling opinion that U.S. Congress must recognize genocide; records document jihad against Armenians; article refers to Jeff Jacoby's most recent Boston Globe article confirming historical fact of Armenian genocide; article refers to professor Deborah Lipstadt and her conclusion that genocide denial is just historical reinterpretation - i.e. revisionists)

http://www.tolerance.ca/Article.aspx?ID=1659&L=fr

(This link cites Ms. Lipstadt)

http://www.xxxishreview.org/Archives/Article.php?Article=2007-08-01-3569

(So does this one)

http://lipstadt.blogspot.com/

(Here's her blog; she's all over the recent developments; most recent post cites John Evans press release on recent developments)

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/897273.html

(NOTE: THIS WEBSITE HAS AN AGRESSIVE POP THAT TRIES TO INSTALL SECURITY [?] SOFTWARE ON YOUR COMPUTER; go figure; click at your own risk; Article published based on Peres representation to Erdogan that ADL is independent body; basically regurgitates all the other recent articles in vein with recent and pending diplomacy between Israel and Turkey after ADL's statement acknowledging Armenian genocide last Tuesday)

[Sip]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

Yes, that's her alias on network54 ... stormig ... HornyRose ... including some members of this forum ... my first encounter ... winoman/THOT/Winston ... Imasdun/Fadix ... I don't know how it is now ... Underground Serbian Cafe ... Current World Events ... jurk... arabaliozian....[babbling]

What the hell are you babbling about? All this because I brought up the origin of the work "Jurk"?

[Sip]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

LOL After such a long track record, Mr. Sipfrod is dumb enough to be a hypocrite and pretend having coined it? LOL What was he thinking?
Obviously, fraud is the intellectual midget's only recourse; however, he's too stupid to think that he's smart enough to pull it off.

Now, I will leave it to the reader to assess the likelihood that Sipfrod have, actually, coined the word "jurk." He's really dumb enough to think that people may buy it!

Excellent! I was waiting for you to spew your crap first in order to yet again OWN you at your own game

Here is the thread as to the origin of the word "jurk" my dear Siamanto:

http://hye_forum.com/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=63701

(remove the underscore after hye and notice the post is dated Nov 7, 2003) ... as you will notice, Arpa immediately fell in love with the word and soon after some of the other fellows you have mentioned started using the word regularly. It wasn't till later when my creation became one of your favorite words.

Now you have 5 options:

1. Bring up yet again how you think I have hacked the Internet to make this miracle possible.
2. Try to come up with some way to show this word has existed in such a context from some earlier date.
3. Try desparately to make a case that such a word has never existed by purchasing books that do not contain this word.
4. Finally admit that you are full of crap and how you have again been owned.
5. Continue your pscho babble and driveling posts which make no sense what so ever calling me all sorts of names.

Pick one. I suspect you'll stick to your favorite #5 though I hope you'll take the high road and go for #2 or #4

[Siamanto]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

What the hell are you babbling about? All this because I brought up the origin of the work "Jurk"?

As usual, you get confused so easily, as I was replying to TomServo. Try to read slowly so you won't confuse yourself.
In any case, you don't like it when your beloved is called HornyRose???

Here is the thread as to the origin of the word "jurk" my dear Siamanto:

http://hye_forum.com/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=63701

(remove the underscore after hye and notice the post is dated Nov 7, 2003) ... as you will notice, Arpa immediately fell in love with the word and soon after some of the other fellows you have mentioned started using the word regularly. It wasn't till later when my creation became one of your favorite words.

Mr. Sipfrod, it was already used on network54 long before that date! So you were already a fraud in 2003????
LOL By the way, did I mention that he's a Mod on Hi4um and he knows how to hack a database???? For some reason, I knew that it would be Hi4um!!!

as you will notice, Arpa immediately fell in love with the word and soon after some of the other fellows you have mentioned started using the word regularly. It wasn't till later when my creation became one of your favorite words.

What can I say other than everybody "fell in love with your creation."

[Sip]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

Dude, your head is soooooo far up your rear it's almost laughable. That's the best come back you have? "It was used long before?" So when I provide you indisputable evidence, we go back to your unverifiable claims? What a joke you are!!!! But it was quite predictable that you would stick to door #5.