Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

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Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

http://www.forward.com/articles/11509/

(J-ewish national newspaper reports Turkish ambassador to U.S. taking a softer stance on impact of ADL's stance on Turkish-Israeli relations requesting a period of calm and claiming that the parties have to avoid at all costs derailment of their relations; tension in relations were revealed by recent ADL controversy; discusses history, nature and extent of Turkish-Isreali relations; reveals that Turkish relations with Israel is dependent on understanding that topic of Armenian genocide not one for public debate; Turkish ambassador confirmed Turkey's disappointment with ADL's shift as it changed premise of everything achieved with U.S. J-ewish community; AJC and ADL are still aligned with Turkey that matter should be investigated by Turkish and Armenian historians not recognized Congressionally; US and Israel not in line with international community in recognizing the Armenian genocide; quotes Foxman on current state of affairs re: Turkey's understanding that although ADL shifted on organizational recognition of Armenian genocide it still does not support the resolutions; Turkish Ambassador to Israel quoted as saying that Israel should not allow American J-ewish community to change its position as it is Turkey's expectation and it is "highly important")

http://www.forward.com/articles/11496/

(Same newspaper publishes opinion piece identifying the end of post-Holocaust era in J-ewish community as the result of moral contradictions pitting genocide recognition against Israeli security; opines that collision happened twice last week 1st with the ADL controversy that caused a diplomatic whirlwind between Israel and Turkey and then with Israel ejecting Darfurian refugees from its borders; states that both crisis ring of the same moral dilemma which shall likely cause a political earthquake; post-Holocaust era brought with it the obligation to recognize genocide, that memory of genocide shall be preserved and genocide never again permitted; for many in the J-ewish community the two pillars of remembering the holocaust and cherishing Israel have been intertwined as part of modern J-ewish identity; pillars collided in grand fashion when Israel was discovered to be on the side of genocide deniers and many J-ews around the world found themselves in 'numb disbelief'; inquires why should we fight for a J-ewish state if it will not act in a J-ewish manner as wasn't its original promise to the world; refutes its own inquiry and concluded that promise of Israel was Zionism - to normalize the J-ewish condition; Israel not exempt from realpolitik and belief that it is was invented by those that created it; the August collisions should cause the J-ewish community to re-examine themselves and forge a new ethic for a new world b/c political ethics based on empty slogans and theories are no ethics at all)

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Asbarez reporting that Massachussetts Armenians and J-ews have agreed to promote congressional recogniton of the Armenian Genocide and that there shall be a press conference tomorrow evening on the steps of the Massachussetts State house. Press release follows:

BOSTON--State Representative Rachel Kaprielian (Watertown) and Boston City Councilor Michael P. Ross (District 8) are hosting a press advisory to demonstrate the strengthening solidarity between the xxxish and Armenian-American communities as they underscore the importance of officially recognizing the Armenian Genocide by the Turkish government in 1915.

The event will feature Kaprielian and Ross as well as survivors of both the Holocaust and the Armenian Genocide, and a Rabbi and a member of the Armenian clergy, and is scheduled to take place on Thursday, August 30 at 5:30pm at the main steps in front of the Massachusetts State House.

Prominent members of both the xxxish and Armenian communities, including Steven Grossman, State Representative Peter Koutoujian, and area municipal officials will also be in attendance.

Wednesday, August 29, 2007
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Does the American J-ewish lobby actually represent the American J-ewish community? Because, it is really starting to appear otherwise. At the end of the day, the lobby appears to be more and more the golem of genocide denying nations.

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Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

The Passion of the Foxman (2007)
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The Passion of The Foxman focuses on the last days of Abe Foxman's political life.

The story begins in the Big Apple where Foxman has gone to pray after sitting for the Last Sabbath. (Sabbath. Bloody Sabbath. [Sorry the creator of this story is a Black Sabbath Fan.] "War Pigs" plays softly in the background over Abe's Friday prayers)

Foxman must resist the DARK SIDE.

Upstaged by American J-ews and Armenians in Beantown, Foxman is then haled to Massachussetts and taken within the city walls of Boston where he is met by leaders of the J-ewish and Armenian community and confront him with accusations of bigotry and his trial results in a judgment of political death by hypocrisy.

This film story depicts the final hours of Abe Foxman, starting from his rescue from the Holocaust and brief raising by a Catholic family who provided him safe harbor, his prayers and his beatdown in Beantown at the hands of his purported constituency.

It goes on to show the trials he endured under Turkish and Israeli rule and the ridicule he suffered in the end.

Once the end of his political life is pronounced, he carries a heavy wooden cross back to Washington, D.C. amidst throngs of jeering citizens and horrendous mudslinging of the same type, nature and extent he casted upon others during his tenure, while a few citizens do what they can to help him.

Throughout this time, we are shown memories from his past with his brief upbringing in a Catholic family where he is tought tolerance and compassion only to forget it and his underlings, where he gives Zionist exaggerations. Finally, he is kicked to the curb, experiences his political death, and is remembered as a pariah in the J-ewish community and golem for dark, evil interest, but he resurrects from his political death to proclaim he was never a genocide denier. Yet, incredibly, no one believes him.

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerBlog.jhtml?itemNo=899071&contrassID=25&subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=1&listSrc=Y&art=1

(Israeli newspaper republishes condensed version of article that recently appeared in Slate discussed fully above which inquires on the congruency of a J-ewish state fail to accept refugees and deny the genocide?)

http://www.thexxxishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=14461

(J-ewish newssource republishes JTA's Ben Harris article detailing Turkey's desparation genocide denial diplomacy)

http://www.thexxxishweek.com/top/editletcontent.php3?artid=6220

(J-ewish newsource publishes opinion piece of progressive Rabbi and intellectual conclude that Turkey should grow up, face up and move on. They'll be better for it.)

http://www.turkishweekly.net/news.php?id=47904

(Turkish strategic thinktank stupidly reposts J-post article from earlier this week quoting Turk Ambassador to Israel in a complete display of Turkish desperate genocide denial diplomacy)

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Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=3A378198-A95B-4E2B-93B3-0FC9F8B35822

(Internet magazine publishes Andrew Bostom's detailed historical examination of the 1915 events with numerous accounts by diplomats, other witnesses and historians that indeed what occurred and is described by deniers as allegations of genocide were in fact genocide which blasts the Turkish-Israel-US alliance for putting up weak, baseless rationalizations for denying official genocide recognitions and points to the moral imperative of passing the U.S. resolutions to end to corrosive immorality of genocide denial)

http://www.aina.org/news/2007083093113.htm

(Assyrian news agency republishes Andrew Bostom's article above)

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/08/30/xxxish_armenian_leaders_strive_for_healing/

(Boston Globe publishes article discussing press conference today by Armenian and J-ewish leaders at steps of Massachussetts state house as an ongoing effort to heal wounds caused by ADL's refusal to recognize the Armenian Genocide; the message of the press conference is that many J-ews have acknowledged the Armenian genocide despite the ADL's refusal to do so for decades; display by both communities that "never forget" and "never again" apply to Armenians also; article cites State Representatives of Armenian descent and city councilors of J-ewish descent; press conference to commence at 5:30 p.m. to sooth growing animosities but Watertown will not re-join ADL's NO PLACE FOR HATE program b/c the ADL has not done enough - i.e. encourage Congress to pass recognition resolutions; both groups believe the event shall symbolize the strong ties of J-ewish and Armenian communities)

http://www.townonline.com/acton/homepage/x1136425708

(Local Acton, Mass. newspaper reports that Acton remains a PLACE FOR HATE as the 3 member panel of the town's NO PLACE FOR HATE commission decided against disbanding the program only after the ADL shifted its stance and acknowledged the Armenian Genocide)

http://www.townonline.com/needham/homepage/x766806385

(Local newspaper for Needham, Mass. inquiries if the town is still NO PLACE FOR HATE; article provides accounts of genocide survivor's granddaughter witnessing her grandmother's ongoing struggle to face the pains and struggles encountered during the horrid event and the stories relayed from grandmother to granddaughter about the genocide; Needham Human Rights Committee meeting tonight to discuss fallout from ADL controversy and potential action to be taken in relation to towns NO PLACE FOR HATE PROGRAM)

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1188392492660&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

(Israeli newspaper publishes opinion piece discussing how Andrew Tarsy sacrificed his political career on principle and got a second chance to pursue it and the rarity of such events; recaps Tarsy's stand against national ADL mounted in Beantown in response to Watertown's efforts to can the NO PLACE FOR HATE program; opines that the ADL is out of touch with its purported constituency on the Armenian genocide as reflected by attacks mounted on the ADL by J-ewish scholars and professors and the call for Foxman's ouster on the internet; but, concludes that Tarsy won a sweet victory by standing for truth over politics)

http://www.xxxishexponent.com/article/13906/

(J-ewish newspaper in Pennsylvanian republishes Ben Harris' JTA artice detailing Turkish desparation genocide denial diplomacy occurring after the ADL shifted away from following Turkey's genocide denial position.

http://www.thexxxishadvocate.com/this_weeks_issue/news/?content_id=3596

(J-ewish weekly publishes article discussing recent events in Boston re: Tarsy's rehiring, the rift between the J-ewish community and ADL, Turkey's desperate genocide denial diplomacy since ADL shifted on its genocide denial stance, and quotes Foxman as stating he was saddened that the American J-ewish community did not give ADL the benefit of the doubt that the ADL was acting in good faith in the best interest of the J-ewish community and that he finds the personal attacks against him and the ADL most upsetting)

http://www.eafjd.org/spip.php?breve872&lang=en

(Armenian Lobby in Europe republishes Hillel Halkin's opinion piece which the NY Sun ran earlier this week wherein he believes that J-ewish people should be ashamed of their leaders for the handling of Armenian genocide recognition and display charity regarding human nature)

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=82168

(Turkish newspaper publishes article explaining how Turkey's new islamist government will likely be more understanding of Israel than prior leadership; article discusses prior diplomatic tensions, the amount of commerce between the nations, and diplomatic hot topics; references shock of Israel envoy to Turkey over ADL's shift on Armenian genocide and some of the desparation genocide denial diplomacy between Israel and Turkey after the ADL tried to flee the DARK SIDE)

http://www.yerkir.am/eng/index.php?sub=news_arm&id=31338

(Armenian Online newspaper reports Armenian Lobby in Europe discovered that the Armenian genocide issue was not included in EU progress reports re: Turkey as they seek inclusion into the European community)

http://www.thestar.com/columnists/article/251305

(Opinion piece in Toronto newspaper by Turkish contributor opines, among other things, that Turkey's shift back to Islamist rule may lead to constitutional changes on October 21st when Turks go to the polls to vote on a referendum guaranteeing free speech, religion and dress that may end fascist notions of Turkishness and not control what Turks do or don't say about the Armenian genocide)

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=74&ItemID=13660

(European Social change magazine republishes Robert Fisk's Independent article entitled The Forgotten Holocaust re: The Armenian genocide)

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Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

Inquiring minds want to know if the press conference about to begin in less than 10 minutes on the Massachussetts State House steps re: U.S. recognition of the Armenian genocide will be covered tonight on national primetime TV news.

Such a proposition would make a great Vegas wager as there is probably a lot of money on the event not receiving any notable national broadcast media coverage.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

Well, golly, that dog can hunt.

http://www.xxxishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18117

(Calif. J-ewish weekly publishes opinion piece by contributor encouraging J-ewish community to throw their hat in the ring and favor U.S. Congressional recogntion of the Armenian genocide; comments on the absence of any meaningful debate about the truthfulness of the congressional genocide recognition resolutions; references majority House sponsorship of HR 106; opines that the lack of support by American j-ewish organizations is embarrassing; claims these organizations actually appease anti-semites and Muslim extremist sentiments by caving to intimidation; opines that if a Christian leader refused to acknowledge the Holocaust for fear of antoginizing Germany, J-ews would be outraged and dispute any claims that the Holocaust was only a J-ewish issue; based on J-ewish history, J-ewish organizations and people should be at the forefront of speaking in favor of Armenian genocide recognition not waffling or refusing to take a position; J-ewish leaders should refuse to be blackmailed by Turkey - muslim extremists - and Turkish threats against Israel and Turkish J-ews should be met with condemnation and confrontation not cowardice; quotes Churchill)

http://www.xxxishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18114

(Same publication republishes JTA's Ben Harris article detailing Turkey's desperation genocide denial diplomacy which included pressuring Israel to keep American J-ewish lobby organizations in line with Turkey's genocide denial stance)

http://www.xxxishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/33431/format/html/displaystory.html

(Same publication posts news brief reporting on Tarsy's rehiring and reinstatement this week as regional director for New England's ADL branch)

http://www.xxxishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18119

(Same publication republishes AJC Exec. Director's non AJC press release expressing that acknowledging Armenian genocide as historical truth is the right thing to do; neglects to indicate that earlier this year the AJC hand-delivered Turkey's genocide denial position to the Halls of Congress opposing the genocide recognition resolutions and, then, AJC said that it did not take a position on matter - except that when Armenian J-ews subsequently sent a similar letter to their attention supporting the resolutions they did not deliver the letter to politicians; "oh what a wicked web we weave, when first we set out to deceive")

http://www.xxxishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18125

(Same publication publishes another opinion piece by UCLA J-ewish history professor opinion that ADL's recent fence-sitting position acknowledging Armenian genocide but not support Congressional genocide recognition resolutions does not go far enough; opines that ADL's half-way shift is logically inconsistent and disingenuous; claims that Foxman has repeatedly ignored fact that an overwhelming majority of historians agree the Armenians experience genocide; Foxman's shift was not based on meaningful consultative process but a desire choke the fire beneath the controversy he created and calls for his resignation; opines that the Beantown beatdown brings to light other problems within American J-ewish organizational life; first, shortsighted political goals of organizations cloud moral judgment of organized J-ewish community - inquires if supporting those who falsify and distort history in accord with the J-ewry's interests and concludes the J-ewry has a responsibility to raise their voices against genocide; second, controversy reminds J-ewry of detatchment and undemocraticization of American J-ewish lobby organizations - no referendum has been put to the xxxry re: the Armenian genocide issue or any other significant matter as well - yet the leaders like Foxman often adopt policies and speak on behalf of the J-ewry based on their own sense of the J-ewry's best interests - routinely they are acting in the best interests of Israel - inquires who elected them to speak in the name of J-ewry - concludes that currently the J-ewry must scrutinize these leaders' powers to make presumptuous assumptions about what is best for the J-ewish community; finally, controversy puts into question Foxman's credibility and continue in a leadership role as he has grown detached and tyrannical - brutishly pushed out ADL colleagues in Boston and Los Angeles, reinvented the organization in his own image of superiority rather than independence; Beantown beatdown reflects that J-ewish leaders need a different set of qualities than those of Foxman - like duty to core J-ewish values, subtlety, historical knowledge and open-mindedness; concludes Foxman should follow the logic of his own shift and support HR 106 and local ADL leaders in Los Angeles should either announce support for HR 106 or denounce their mission statement "to secure justice and fair treatment for all")

http://www.townonline.com/watertown/homepage/x1185657777

(Local Watertown, Mass. newspaper publishes article detailing that Watertown leaders not willing to reconsider working with ADL's NO PLACE FOR HATE PROGRAM until and unless ADL does more re: Armenian genocide issue - i.e. publicly supporting Congressional genocide recognition resolutions; article references today's press conference re: Armenian and J-ewish unity in Boston supporting Congressional recognition of Armenian genocide)

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=120856

(Turkish newspaper publishes another articel re: Turkey's desperation genocide diplomacy quoting Turkish ambassador to U.S. extensively based on his conversation with J-ewish Telegraphic Agency; Mr. Sensoy speculates that if resolution passes it will have some impact on certain relationships, expresses concern over ADL's representation that Turkish J-ews would not be safe if the resolution passed, expects American J-ewish lobby neutrality on genocide issue; ADL gets into snafu over article published in J-ewish Advocate because of alleged re-publishing when subject matter became moot b/c of subsequent events and ADL asked article to be removed so there would be no confusion re: timing of representations; Turkey expects ADL to rectify statement acknoweldging genocide claiming that there is no concensus among historians that the 1915 events were genocide)
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Letter to the editor

Wednesday, August 29, 2007

Canada should remain neutral on the Ottoman Armenian question
Ambassador Brodeur does me great honor in responding to my article
(International Terrorism in Canada: Is the Police doing its job? TDN
23-08-07), but I must point out that 25 years is too long waiting for
Canadian justice to be served in the Altikat case. In the meantime,
when our parliament and political leaders adopt pro-Armenian
positions, it not only shocks and saddens Turkish Canadians, it harms
Canada's image as a land of fairness and rule of law.In my humble
opinion, Canada should remain neutral on the Ottoman Armenian
question, avoid pro-Armenian resolutions and statements by political
leaders, and work for reconciliation between Turks and Armenians.
Promoting reconciliation is what fits the Canadian image best, and
what Canadian diplomacy does well.Yours sincerely,Prof. Ozay Mehmet

Source: http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/a...?enewsid=82019

----)> This j-urk's opinion piece (covered above) accused Armenians of being involved in global terror, Canada being soft on world terror as evidenced by failure to act against Armenian murders of Turkish diplomat and blasted Canadian government for defaming Turkish history by recognizing Armenian genocide.
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Atrocities unforgettable

By Theodore G. Karakostas

Tuesday, August 28, 2007

In response to Joe Fitzgerald's excellent column ("Watertown
remembers what the ADL chooses to forget," Aug. 20), the overwhelming
support being extended to the Armenians in their efforts to gain
recognition for the Armenian genocide is heartening, and serves to
bring attention to the atrocities and crimes against humanity being
perpetrated by Turkey up to the present day.

It is ironic that Abraham Foxman and the national Anti-Defamation
League seek to placate Turkey considering the widespread anti-Semitism
that has accompanied the rise of fundamentalism in Turkey. During the
spring of 2005, Hitler's "Mein Kampf" was a best seller in Turkey, and
a film with anti-Semitic and anti-American overtones was a box office
smash at Turkish cinemas. During World War II, members of the xxxish
community in Turkey shared the fate of their Greek and Armenian
neighbors, and were devastated by a discriminatory tax that was
imposed on non-Muslims and were deported into Anatolia from which many
never returned.
Theodore G. Karakostas, Boston

Source: http://news.bostonherald.com/letters...icleid=1019459

------)> The Fitzgerald article cited in this letter to the editor is cited above.

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Aug. 28, 2007

Speaking out

Sir, - W.J. Strauss urges xxxs to resist the urge to acknowledge the
known genocide of the Armenians ("xxxs must stay away from this
controversy," Letters, August 26). He claims that denial of the
Armenian genocide for political gain (or to avoid perceived political
damage) will prove that xxxs and Israel are not guided by
self-interest. Quite the opposite; and Strauss's logic is the
foundation of the current crisis in the ADL's credibility.

The only countries to ban Franz Werfel's epic about the Armenian
genocide, The Forty Days of Musa Dagh, were Turkey and Germany. Werfel
was initially criticized in xxxish circles for not making use of
xxxish history, instead choosing an Armenian experience. Yet the
relevance was fully realized by heroic resisters in the ghettos during
the Holocaust.

GEORGE AGHJAYAN
Worcester, Massachusetts

Source: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull

-------------)> Bravo, Mr. Aghjayan!!! Tsavit donem!

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Los Angeles Times, CA
August 28, 2007 Tuesday
Home Edition


History, tragedy and genocide

Re "xxxish group recognizes Armenian genocide," Aug. 23

I hope Anti-Defamation League National Director Abraham Foxman will
reconsider Rabbi Hillel's summary of the Bible: "What is hateful to
you, do not to your fellow man. That is the entire law; all the rest
is commentary." There can be no adequate justification for such a
blatant, calculated half-measure in response to any genocide. It is
ironic and tragic that it was issued from the leader of one of the
most prominent xxxish groups in the country. Today, he does not speak
for me.

Gary Gross
Huntington Beach




Foxman's refusal to back a congressional resolution acknowledging the
Armenian genocide is understandable. To do so would diminish the
events of World War II and demonstrate that this tragic incident is
no more horrific than that which has happened to others. The Chinese
suffered their own genocide at the hands of the Japanese during World
War II, yet there is little written about, let alone official
recognition given for, this atrocity.

Although what happened in Europe was tragic, it is unfortunately just
another footnote in history of human cruelty. The Irish, Cambodians,
Africans, Native Americans, Chinese and Armenians have all
experienced their own genocides. Only one group has demanded that its
experience be given priority over all others.

John Zavesky
Riverside




As the only xxxish organization solely dedicated to the issue of
combating and preventing genocide worldwide, xxxish World Watch
applauds the ADL for finally acknowledging the Armenian genocide as a
genocide.

As a community with firsthand knowledge and experience of the ravages
of genocide, we have a particular moral obligation to stand up and
ask our government to recognize what we know as true: that 1.5
million Armenians were systematically slaughtered in a
government-sponsored campaign of genocide against them. We urge the
ADL to continue its leadership in the fight against hate by
supporting the pending congressional resolution recognizing the
Armenian genocide as such.

Rabbi Harold M. Schulweis
Founder
xxxish World Watch
Encino

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JWW was one of the incubator's for Save Darfur, as the article above demonstrates JWW recently had an awakening re: Armenian genocide recognition. http://www4.jrf.org/schulweis-on-genocide (listen to his 4/07 speech acknowledging the genocide) - see also http://www.xxxishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=17609

http://www.xxxishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18054 (Here is a recent article quoting the Rabbi)

http://www.xxxishworldwatch.org/

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There was no national TV news footage of today's press conference re: Boston Armenians and J-ews uniting to call for Congressional recognition of the genocide.

However, we have YOUTUBE. Here's one for historical context of the whole ADL snafu. Recently, Turkish activists in Boston tried to remove genocide history from Mass. educational curriculums. Here, some locals protest the ATAA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BoVAqjflqs

Then, for Watertown and Newton council meetings, other council committee meetings and a Mayor's speech related to Foxman's beatdown in Beantown, go here

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Armenian+ADL

(And, no I am not in any way responsible for the first video)

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

http://www.clevelandxxxishnews.com/articles/2007/08/31/community/letters_opinion/kochman0831.txt

(Cleveland J-ewish newssource publishes opinion piece by ADL regional director for Ohio/Kentucky/Allegheny that reads as if it was written by Mr. Foxman and opposing Jeff Jacoby's blasts of American J-ewish lobby organizations on their long-standing refusal to identify Armenian tragedy as genocide as being unfair; claims journalist does not understand the complicated moral and practical dilemma defining the issue; first, ADL must protect J-ewish people and ADL was contacted by Turkish J-ews who expressed concern over consequences they would experience if Armenian genocide was recognized in U.S.; never denied genocide - just never used the word genocide to describe the tragedy; only acknowledged genocide b/c pressure was mounting)

http://www.thenewanatolian.com/tna-28513.html

(Turkish newspaper republishes condensed article detailing Turkey's desperation genocide denial diplomacy with quotes from Turkey's Ambassador to U.S.)

http://www.newburyportnews.com/puopinion/local_story_243094032?keyword=topstory

(Local Mass. newspaper publishes opinion piece commending town of Newburyport for sending ADL message that consistency matters and if they do not support U.S. genocide recognition resolutions then their NO PLACE FOR HATE program will be sacked in Newburyport)

http://www.salemnews.com/puopinion/local_story_243094104?keyword=secondarystory

(Same opinion piece republished in Salem, Mass. newspaper)

http://www.eagletribune.com/puopinion/local_story_243093838?keyword=secondarystory

(And, republished in North Andover, Mass. newspaper)

http://www.eafjd.org/spip.php?article364&lang=en

(Armenian lobby for Europe publishes press release explaining Turkey's desperation genocide denial diplomacy and how it became frantic when Turkey thought its proxy - American J-ewish lobby organizations - were jumping ship from their acquired roles in D.C. on behalf of Turkey; quotes head of European Armenian lobby as stating that T-urkish xxxs are hostages, they do not enjoy any freedoms and are used to convince international J-ewish organizations to defy the defense of justice and human dignity - purposes for which they were created; claims that Turkey ordinarily uses blackmail for political gain and suggests strongly that European J-ewish organizations join their American counterparts in refusing to give into these Turkish blackmail tactics)

http://www.eafjd.org/spip.php?breve875&lang=en

(European Armenian lobby republishes Jpost opinion piece opining that the J-ewry needs to face up to the past re: the Armenian genocide)

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Since there was no news video footage of yesterday's "Armenian-xxxish solidarity" press conference on the steps of the State House yesterday and none out in cyberspace, thought these would be of interest

http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1074061287&fr=yfp-t-501

(here is video footage of Turkey's premier historian who is basically a babbling baboon who will say anything consistent with Turkey's interests no matter how absurd)

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=479143&in_page_id=1811

(London based newspaper publishes anonymous article that goes to great lengths to provide witness accounts of the Armenian genocide, cites Winston Churchill and references Robert Fisk discovering photographs documenting the genocide in Deutsche Bank's archives - the bank was financing a railway in the region at the time - pictures depict manner in which Armenians were systematically rounded up and driven to their death; Fisk explains the manner in which Armenian women appeared in the pictures and the manner they were treated during the tragedy; Fisk also describes certain images reflecting the sheer brutality of the treatment of Armenians; explains what caused the genocide and the course of events on 4/24/1915 when Armenian intellectuals were rounded up; explains several accounts of specific brutal acts - disembowlments, eyes gouged out, crucifixions, concentration camps and manner in which Turks carried out campaign to eradicate Armenians while distorting truth of actual events to the world; discusses that military officers admitted to use of code words at subsequent criminal trials; cites Henry Morgenthau [god bless that lil mamser] as to his accounts of brutal acts; Armenians marched to their death - worse than massacre; also provides accounts of Turks assisting Armenians and subjecting themeselves to certain peril; and, talks about how the use of the word genocide has become hotly contested ahead of Turkey's potential joinder with the EU, Turkey's view of events differ greatly with historical facts and Armenian opposition to Turkey's acceptance into EU based on Turkey's refusal to acknowledge genocide)

http://www.kansascity.com/273/story/256227.html

(Kansas City newspaper republishes excerpts of Jpost opinion piece concluding that Israel may be sensitive to Turkish relations but a state which protests holocaust denial everywhere cannot aid and abet genocide denial elsewhere; "Kansas City" is a great country standard by the way)

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2007/09/01/turkeys_historical_amnesia/

(Boston newspaper publishes editorial opinion piece re: Turkey's refusal to observe the historical truth of its own history which provides eyewitness accounts of the Armenian tragedy that unfolded before them; cites author/historian Taner Akcam as source for witness accounts in article and that despite such accounts Turkey recalcitrantly suggests that the historical record is in doubt; also explains cause of tragedy and basis for Turkey's denial; refrences war trials, Treaty of Sevres, and Turkeys subsequent refusal to comply with treaty and contemporaneous agressive acts towards Greece; cites Foxman as stating the use of genocide is a moral issue [oh, ok and the use of Holocaust is a political one] and ADL's new genocide recognition position was an attempt "to lower rhetoric and unite us"; scolds Turkey for showing less flexibility than Foxman and quotes Sensoy as saying events occurred during war and known fact that some Armenians sided with Russians but open to commission to investigate events; opines that investigation unnecessary in light of weight of evidence in favor of genocide; discusses Turkey's desperation genocide diplomacy intimating that recogntion would strain relationships including those with Armenian and opines that despite stress placed on relationships, Congress should not be troubled in acknowledging historical fact; concludes that Turkey should fess up to the crime and move on)

http://www.hairenik.com/armenianweekly/fpg09010703.htm

(Armenian paper publishes article detailng interview with American J-ewish genocide scholar that takes Israel and Turkey to the mat accusing Turkey of being brutes and Israel of being their long time biatch; scholar debunks ADL's grounds for opposing political recognition - i.e. safety of Turkish J-ews; states claim of pending danger to Turkish j-ews amounts to political blackmail; concludes that Turkey's acceptance into EU would be dead in water if one Turkish J-ew was harmed; determines that real issue is why does Turkey's bullying tactics work; claims that when Turkey came to D.C. in February 2007 and met with U.S. J-ewish lobby most J-ewish leaders did not agree with Turkey's position re: danger to Turkish J-ews but some like Foxman did; made import of American J-ews having to teach Israel how to be a good xxx - take care of all not only you; recalls Turkish pressure on Israel re: genocide issue going back to 1979 when Turkey compelled Israel's non attendance at a genocide conference in Tel Aviv; points to differences between right-wing conservative factions in J-ewish community that put Israel above all else and majority of American J-ewish community being universalistic and observing Armenian genocide)

http://www.hairenik.com/armenianweekly/com09010704.htm

(same paper publishes another article that oh so inconspicuously calls Turkey a liar; accuses ADL of actually almost recognizing genocide and that ADL's waffling has become a PR fiasco; quotes Yiddish proverb - half truth is a whole lie; ADL's qualified recognition was subsequently coupled with its pleasing one of its masters - Turkey; references recent displays of Turkey's desperation diplomacy after ADL's 'almost' shift to right side of history on Armenian genocide recognition; concludes that ADL could not have been serious in believing that Turkey wants to reconcile its distortion with overwhelming evidence in support of historical facts re: genocide because to do so would be admitting that they've been lying for 92 years; inquires about the historians Turkey will proffer for independent examination when it is well known that the overwhelming concesus of historians is that Armenians suffered genocide b/c if they are on Turkey's payroll then the ADL has impinged their own credibility and relevance; concludes that the passage of time has not diminished the Armenian demand for justice including U.S. recognition)

http://www.hairenik.com/armenianweekly/com09010701.htm

(Same paper republishes article by Mr. Sassounian, that man in Glendale, originally in Asbarez explaining how one by one every pillar of genocide denial is falling)

http://www.hairenik.com/armenianweekly/com09010702.htm

(Same paper republishes article originally appearing in Asbarez explaining that portions of American J-ewish community are stern that genocide never occurred before the Holocaust; this mentality is partially responsible for the Beantown Beatdown; coins term "uniquists" and attributes it to Foxman and the 'never before' portion of the American J-ewry; claims ADL controversy is a scandal of national proportions; Beatdown shows import of having Armenian activists when and where it matters; explains that April 2007 LA Times replacement article - think Mark Arax's original article re: division in xxxry on genocide issue being nixed - put Watertown in motion b/c it contained evidence of Foxman's shenanigans re: towing Turkey's denial line; concludes that xxxs in Turkey and Turkish-Israeli relations are driving the ADL controversy as they appear to be in disconnect with majority of American J-ewry; points to Armenia maintaining relations with US and Iran without any damage to either of those relations and accuses American J-ewish lobby and Israel of playing Neville Asherson and appeasing the Nazis; explains that Turkey is playing bully and a bully that is confronted backs down and confronting Turkey on its threats to Turkish J-ews will result in them taking no action and the end of that tactic; Armenians should use ADL scandal as means of obliging American J-ewish lobbies to do the right thing including Foxman's dismissal, congratulates who ever took the helm in Watertown and acted to reveal the ADL's double standard on the Armenian genocide)

http://www.xxxishtimes.com/News/6912.stm

(Baltimore J-ewish newspaper republishes Ben Harris piece detailing the play by play of Turkey's bullying in D.C. and Israel which amounts to political blackmail)

http://www.aina.org/news/20070831123813.htm

(Assyrian news agency does the same)

http://www.panorama.am/en/politics/2007/08/31/ravvin/

(Armenian newssource reports on British rabbis visiting genocide museum in Armenia)

[Siamanto]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

Jerusalem post
Sept 1 2007


Boston Armenians: ADL guilty of genocide denial

By MATT RAND JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT
Boston

Members of the Armenian community here still say the Anti-Defamation
League is complicit in "genocide denial," despite the ADL's recent
acknowledgment that the murder of Armenians was "tantamount to
genocide."


The Armenian Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem, Torkom Manoogian, lays
a wreath in the city, marking the anniversary of the mass killing of
Armenians in Turkey.
Photo: AP [file]


The Boston-area Armenians also said the world's failure to stop the
murder of Armenians during WWI had made the Holocaust possible.


They are pressing the ADL to lobby on their behalf for official
recognition of the Armenian Genocide by the US government.

"If the world had done something when the [Armenian] Genocide
happened, they would have prevented the Holocaust," said Sarkis
Antreassian, as he sat with the owner of the Arax grocery store in
Boston's Watertown suburb as the latter helped an Israeli in the
checkout line. Watertown is home to a large Armenian community.

"Hitler said, when he was killing the xxxs: 'Who remembered the
Armenians? Nobody remembered the Armenians, so nobody will care about
the xxxs.' So he kept killing them," Antreassian reasoned.

The ADL had "upset a lot of Armenians," he said, added that the US
was hesitant to openly acknowledge the genocide because of the
American military bases on "the occupied Armenian land" and the
conflict it would create with millions of Kurds [in eastern Turkey]
who where living "on the Armenian land too."

But he was optimistic that things would work out in the end.

"Sooner or later it [the Armenian Genocide] will be accepted," said
Antreassian. "I don't know if I'm going to see that, but it will be
accepted. You can't keep denying. It's getting worse and worse every
year. When the whole world accepts it, the United States has to
accept it. Maybe not too soon, but it will happen."

Other Armenians also said it was a moral imperative for the ADL to
officially recognize the Armenian Genocide.

"Have we [the Armenians] ever denied the reality of the Holocaust?
Never. We would never dream of doing so," Tatul Sonentz Papazian, the
executive director of the Armenian Relief Society, said outside
Watertown's Armenian Cultural Association building.

He was surprised the ADL had not officially recognized the genocide,
he said, since it was an organization whose "basis is on morality.
You know - defending those who can not defend themselves against
people who attack them... They pretend to be something that they are
not. They've become a highly politicized agency of Israel."

"They should tell it like it is," Sonentz Papazian added.

The ADL preached "tolerance, but practiced divisiveness and denial,"
said Armenian National Committee representative Grace Kehetian
Kulegian. She suggested the ADL echoed the "rhetoric of the Turkish
government," and said she hoped the xxxish organization would end its
"truly unfortunate affiliation with genocide denial."

"We cannot join with the ADL when they refuse to recognize the
genocide," added Watertown Councilor-at-Large Marilyn Petitto
Devaney.

The suburb's large Armenian community is backing a proclamation
sponsored by Petitto Devaney to suspend cooperation with the ADL in
an anti-bigotry program.

"The ADL has no part in this [the "No Place for Hate" program], and
we should not allow partnership with them," said Petitto Devaney, who
sits on the Governor's Council that oversees state judges'
nominations.

The councilwoman said she was motivated by a friend of hers whose
grandmother only revealed that she had been raped during the Armenian
Genocide, at the age of 12, about five years before she died.

Another friend, Petitto Devaney said, told her that "his mother never
talked about her surviving and losing all her family in the genocide.
But on her death bed, she said in Armenian: 'They're coming for us
now.'

"So for them, and all who died... [and for the] survivors, I offer
this proclamation."

According to the proclamation, the ADL denied the "facts of the
horrific Armenian Genocide" and "deprived the Armenian people of a
right to their history."

Saying that they had never "negated" the "painful events of 1915-1918
perpetrated by the Ottoman Empire against the Armenians as massacres
and atrocities," the Anti-Defamation League denied claims it had
shown any disrespect for Armenian history. At the same time, the ADL
said that lobbying on behalf of the Armenians would not improve
Turkish-Armenian relations.

http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg200840.html

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Watertown Armenians in arow over ADL's anti-genocide stance

http://www.anccanada.org/PressRelease/tabid/53/ctl/ViewPressRelease/mid/397/PressReleaseID/34/Default.aspx

(American National Committee of Canada publishes scathing press release condemning Turkey of blackmailing Israel and U.S. J-ewish organizations on Armenian genocide issue)

http://www.xxxcy.com/tags/armenian_genocide

(J-ewish magazine J-ewcy publishes blog responding to recent criticism of magazine's "moral consistency" over the realpolitik that Israel's current condition demands; opposition to magazine's position complains that acknowledging genocide alienates a major Israeli ally, Turkey; opposition accuses magazine of using genocide to look like bad-ass idealists and to take pot shots at U.S. xxxish lobby; magazing also discusses Forward newspaper article that concludes that genocide recognition is not as important as saving lives; magazine responds that J-ewry cannot change the rules re: genocide recognition because it conflicts with a strategic goal and references that J-ewry goes to great lengths to instill that bearing witness to genocide is a sacred responsibility, genocide denial is a final step of genocide, refusal to save European J-ewry from genocide or recognize such was a moral failure that should not be repeated, and only by remembering its past can we prevent it in the future; scroll down further and you shall discover that the magazine is reporting about and organizing a Foxman protest seeking his firing as ADL grand poobah on Sept. 6, 2007 at 7:00 p.m. at the interestection of 92nd St. and Lexington Ave., New York, New York )

http://www.hairenik.com/armenianweekly/BN_090107.htm

(Armenian weekly newspaper reports on joint press conference of Armenian and J-ewish American leaders on Massachusetts state house steps demonstrating solidarity for genocide recognition in general and officially by the U.S. government; apparently, the event was met with a small turnout by both communities that was commented on by one of the presenters; members of both sides took an opportunity to preach about Darfur)

http://thephoenix.com/MediaLog/Perma...f-db8f52f0ccb2 (News critic for Boston entertainment weekly comments on the failure of major newspapers - e.g. NY TIMES, WASHINGTON POST - of reporting on the ADL controversy while lauding the Boston Globe's coverage as excellent and acknowledging that the Globe is a member of the NYT family; opines that the Times does not want stir up a development that already strained Israeli-Turkish relations but concludes that protecting Israel should not prevent critical reporting on the Armenian Genocide debate because it is a major national and international story that should be covered by the NYT, POST, etc.)

http://blogs.townonline.com/watertown/

(The Catholics are coming, the Catholics are coming, to Watertown; ok, scroll down for the real story as Watertown blogger inquires what the Phoenix above tried to answer: Where was NY Times coverage of the ADL controversy?)

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1188392511323&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

(Israeli newspaper publishes article detailing how Armenians in Boston believe that, despite all of the ADL's recent actions including almost recognizing the genocide, the ADL remains complicit in genocide denial and that the world's failure to save Armenians in WWI made the Holocaust possible)

http://www.eafjd.org/spip.php?breve888&lang=en

(Armenian Lobby in Europe republishes Jpost article above)

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=82456

(Turkish newspaper reports on futility of Turkey's genocide denial position in light of certain recognition of Armenian genocide by U.S. Congress this fall; article blasts Turkish-Americans for not fighting as hard as they used and treating issue as part-time battle, ATAA and FTAA bogged down in lawsuits; points out that Turkish academics are not threatened by passage of U.S. genocide recognition resolutions; details that while Turkey will be able to reforumulate new policy for dealing with Armenia, US and Europe, US would be harmed by recognizing genocide b/c it will lose Turkey as ally in region and will not be able to find another like-kind ally in region that is so effective in dealing with Balkans, Middle East, Caucasus and Central Asia and more people will act more agressively towards U.S. policy; contributor opines that U.S. may find itself in war with Azerbaijan as Turkey's relations with Iran and Russia will be come stronger post U.S. genocide recognition; concludes that Turkish Americans will be harmed also b/c U.S. Turkish business relations shall suffer; finally inquires why will U.S. risk losing war in Iraq, putting Israel in danger and losing a friend for over 60 years to satisfy the demands of a minority?)

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1188392510332&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

(find the letter to Jpost editor by Shlomo Bar-Meir refuting historical concensus that Armenians suffered genocide - concludes that while events were tragic it was not planned by government to wipe out Armenian population)

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1188392518485&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

(fiind the letter to Jpost editor by Meir Brooks rebutting the above letter to editor by Shlomo as Shlomo misreprents facts and ignores history of WWI period, author of letter recommends Vahakhn Dadrian's History of the Armenian Genocide for further reference.)

http://www.yerkir.am/eng/index.php?sub=news_arm&id=31381

(Armenian newspaper believes American J-ewish community is comprised wholly of attorneys and concludes that b/c a majority of American J-ewish bar association members believe issues still remain concerning recognizing the genocide that the American J-ewish community as a whole is not ready to discuss genocide recognition)

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=23217

(Different Armenian newssource reports the same - American J-ewry not ready to discuss genocide recognition)

http://washingtontimes.com/article/2...012/commentary (Washington D.C. newspaper publishes opinion piece by pro-Turkish lobbyist highly critical of Foxman's political machinations on genocide issue but also opining rather unconvincingly that truth should prevail in deciding genocide recognition and truth is not in favor of the 1915 events as genocide; claims that there is credible evidence undermining Armenian allegations of genocide)


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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1573.htm

(Noam Chomsky hypothesized to Watertown Armenian activists five-years ago of the real axis of evil may be - U.S., Turkey and Israel)


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Although Mr. Dershowitz may have not been an explicit Armenian genocide denier in the past, the below reveals his leaning as an extreme Pro-Israeli, Pro- U.S. xxxish lobby and pro- Holocaust as unique event which could reasonably lead one to believe that his position blasting ADL for recognizing genocide was more a power play on his own part and an anomaly re: his real position as to whether Israel and the U.S. should officially recognize Armenian genocide. Up until ADL controversy, he was a rabid supporter of all issues promoted by the ADL - Ahmadenijad, attacking President Carter and criticizing literary works scrutinizing the impact the U.S. J-ewish lobby is having on U.S. foreign policy. He also promotes revenge as a natual, ordinary response to Holocaust deniers and anti-semites and claims pre-emptive strike against Iran is self-defense b/c even threatening Israel's sovereignty with rhetoric is violence subject to a response. And, lately, he has demonstrated that he is a ultra-conservative moonbat whose beliefs coincide with neocons - e.g. erosion of civil liberties is a necessary evil to protect the nation --> sounds pretty much like Nazi germany)

http://www.alandershowitz.com/publications/docs/holocaust.pdf

http://www.international.ucla.edu/burkle/article.asp?parentid=5071

http://www.jrtelegraph.com/2006/04/alan_dershowitz.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dZkblZk4_g

http://www.nysun.com/article/43958?page_no=1

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976909047

http://www.cnn.com/books/news/9909/22/dershowitz.salon/index.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/wilkinson09142006.html

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I do not necessarily agree with the whole of these articles but they are provided to give insight on the broad views surrounding Israel, zionism, the J-ewry's ethno-centric hostility and actual need for anti-semitism as it suffers politically when anti-semitism diminishes. The latter article is an essay full of citatons to other literary, historical sources.

http://fanonite.org/tag/media/bbc-watch/

http://desip.igc.org/holo_lysson.html