Armenians & Turks & Medz Yegern

[Shahumyan]

ah yes, i forgot Bush was actually a socialist and thats why the govt sets minimum wage

the fact that you understand what im refering to shows how irelavant ur point is

i'll come to ur "marxism thread" when i got the time, im not comprimising my exams for tit-for-tat squabbles whose conclusion makes little significance on the world today

[Anonymouse]

You don't understand anything I am saying, or you don't choose to, since that would then comprise your whole belief system, since this is what it's all about to you right? About "beliefs" in this or that theory which sounds good.

So since you aren't approaching this with an objective intent, thus everything that I say is really "bourgoeis" nonsense.

[Shahumyan]

no, not really, just that unless you can prove your ideas to be correct and from the objective point of view, then why should i comprimise your ideas when mine prove to be correct?

[Anonymouse]

Ahh yea "I'm right, you're wrong" seems to be the party line of all those that are part of certain ideological fringe groups.

In any event, your continued responses prove to me that you don't approach this objectively. You have a preconceived notion that youre views are correct. In fact this isn't about views, its about discussion.

What I stated about the Ism of Marxism is simply a fact, an ism, erected in the 19th century, and all history is viewed through this prism. That means you have present bias towards the past, since you look at the past, through the present, and not the past in and of itself.

That is not how history works, but that is how isms work.

In any event, if you find the time or the will go to the Marxism thread and post up your contentions.

[Nimrod]

Enlightenment for the primitive

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nimrod, get your act together, don't insult other members.

Read the forum rules here, before posting again:

http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1189

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[Nimrod]

Originally posted by disksoleil Hi jahannam

The point up there was not how Turks deny, or it was not to test whether you have studied your lessons about what Turks do in their life or how they think. The exact point was "what they DO NOT KNOW" and that, "IF YOU LET PEOPLE KNOW SOMETHING, THEY WONT DENY IT". Maybe they're too lazy to go and find out by themselves, so i thought there should be another way of teaching them... I thought you guys wanted genocide to be recognized. Maybe i was wrong after all huh?
The aim of this thread had nothing so AGAINST you nor the Armenian Forum i guess. Plain discussion. For your information.

But thank you ALOT for reminding me of my principles, without you im lost.

Since you've spouted nothing but fallacies and false Turkish propoganda that you believe over accurate facts of an earlier that were the true natives of that land (i.e. Armenians) I have nothing more to say to you other than go learn to read something that does not endorse a biased invalid source. I think I speak for the rest of this forum when I say:why don't you go and get lost somewhere where they don't have a "found" department?

[Nimrod]

Excuse me but you need to reclarify your definition of "insult" I did not insult anyone. She insulted us by attempting to "bash" using decoded sugar words implying the same message as "you re all wrong there was no genocide get over it." I will not tolerate that.

[Nimrod]

Diskoleil is basically relying on the notion of THEORIES over our precisely drawn FACTS. That alone excludes her argument. Her sources still are invalid. However, I do recommend she try practicing the endeavor OF THINKING more often before posting.

[disksoleil]

Hi Nimrod...

I do not have any argument in a sense of making a propaganda... What i ever said in that quoted part of your message is that, if all the Turkish people want, the government will accept the genocide, but most people are not aware of it. I have never suggested that Turks are natives in this land anyway... but it is truth that it is our homeland right now, we accept it that way, this is not propaganda. Why should i just come in here and use 'sugar words', to prove what? I do not understand what u meant. I never insulted anybody here so far, don't need to. Relax.

[disksoleil]

By the way thank you for your recommendations.