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PanARMENIAN.Net
Ramil Safarov not going to appeal Budapest court decision
15.01.2008 14:22 GMT+04:00
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Azeri serviceman Ramil Safarov
sentenced to life imprisonment in Hungary for
murdering Armenian officer Gurgen Margaryan will not
protest decision of the Budapest Court of Appeals,
said judge Ikram Shirinov.
`Safarov thinks the measure is hopeless. It's his
personal opinion but there is no final decision yet.
Anyway, the Hungarian legislation doesn't suppose time
limitation,' he said.
Shirinov informed that Hungarian lawyer Clara Fischer
will defend Safarov on January 29 court session over
the incident between Safarov and prison guards.
The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry said it attends to
legal assistance to Ramil Safarov, APA reports.
On April 13, 2006 Ramil Safarov was given a life
sentence for murdering Gurgen Margaryan. On February
22, 2007 the Budapest Court of Appeals upheld the
verdict.
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[QUOTE=steph;22577]Originally posted by Joseph View Postwww.defacto.am News/News 2007-02-23
The Azeri party also petitioned the court to remit the sentence, as Safarov is another culture’s representative, so Hungarian party cannot understand his motives, because an Armenian’s assassination is not considered a criminally punishable act in Azerbaijan.
Am I really reading this correctly, sat in my home in the 21st Century ?
We really haven't progressed since 1915, have we?
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[QUOTE=Joseph;22575]www.defacto.am News/News 2007-02-23
The Azeri party also petitioned the court to remit the sentence, as Safarov is another culture’s representative, so Hungarian party cannot understand his motives, because an Armenian’s assassination is not considered a criminally punishable act in Azerbaijan.
Am I really reading this correctly, sat in my home in the 21st Century ?
We really haven't progressed since 1915, have we?
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Life sentence for a murderer
www.defacto.am News/News 2007-02-23
SENTENCE ON MURDERER’S LIFE IMPRISONMENT REMAINED IN FORCE
Hungarian Court of Appeal left in force the life imprisonment sentence of a lower instance court for Azeri officer Ramil Safarov for Armenian officer Gurgen Margarian’s murder, the Armenian party’s lawyer Nazeli Vartanian told IA REGNUM.
In her words, at the Court of Appeal session held February 22 Safarov’s lawyers presented two applications: to carry out a new, 5th forensic medical examination and not to take into consideration Safarov’s first testimonies, as they were given in Russian, while his country’s state language is Azerbaijani. The Azeri party also petitioned the court to remit the sentence, as Safarov is another culture’s representative, so Hungarian party cannot understand his motives, because an Armenian’s assassination is not considered a criminally punishable act in Azerbaijan.
According to Nazeli Vartanian, the Armenian party presented counter-petition to leave the lower instance court’s decision in force. The Armenian side also pointed out that in the 21st century murders were committed only because of a man’s belonging to either nation, and the Armenian journalist’s murder in Turkey testified to the fact. In his turn, Safarov again pleaded not guilty. After the break the Appeal court made a ruling, according to which the lower instance court’s decision was considered just and impartial, and left the decision on Ramil Safarov’s life imprisonment in force. Vartanian also said the Azeri party actually had no chance to appeal the Court of Appeal’s decision, though theoretically they can submit the case to Hungary’s Supreme Court, however, the criteria to take over a case are quite severe there.
To remind, Lieutenant of RA Armed Forces Gurgen Markarian, who was sent on an official journey trip to Budapest to participate in the English language courses in the frames of “Cooperation for Peace” NATO program, was brutally hacked to death by an ax by the Azeri officer Ramil Safarov. April 13, 2006 Safarov was sentenced to life imprisonment without the right to pardon during 30 years.
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Safarov's Lawyers to Place Emphasis on His «Irresponsibility» when Committing Murder
04.04.2006 21:19 GMT+04:00
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Today the last court hearing on the case of Azeri serviceman Ramil Safarov, indicted for murder of Armenian officer Gurgen Margaryan, will be held in Budapest. Lawyer Adil Ismaylov, who represents the interests of Safarov's family said the results of the trial will be drawn today, «Ramil should address the court with his last statement. We discussed it with him. He feels fine and has not complaints yet.» According to Ismaylov, concluding statements of the parties are expected at the process today. State prosecutor will speak first, then lawyers and the prisoner at bar will have an opportunity to make a concluding statement. Meanwhile, Azeri media report Safarov's Hungarian lawyers have seriously prepared to their statements at the trial. They will build on Safarov being «irresponsible» when committing the murder. They will ask the court to qualify his deed in compliance with a corresponding article of the Hungarian Criminal Code (committing a crime in an irresponsible state).
As PanARMENIAN.Net agency reported earlier, Armenian MOD representative Hayk Demoyan and lawyer Nazeli Vardanyan, who represents interests of Margaryan’s family, have already left for Budapest to take part in the trial. To remind, February 19, 2004 lieutenant of the Armed Forces of Armenia Gurgen Margaryan, sent to Budapest to take English courses within the NATO Partnership for Peace Program, was brutally hacked by Azeri officer, who took the same courses. Safarov is indicted in compliance with article 116.2 of the Criminal Code of Hungary (murder, committed with special cruelty, and attempt at lives of over one person), which provides for punishment varying from imprisonment of 10-15 years to life sentence. The verdict regarding Safarov will be announced April 13.
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Marlen Haas Condemns Azeri Women for Awarding Murderer Ramil Safarov
MARLEN HAAS CONDEMNS DETERMINATION OF AZERI WOMEN TO AWARD MURDERER
RAMIL SAFAROV WITH HERO'S STATUS
YEREVAN, MARCH 10. ARMINFO. Marlen Haas, Secretary General of
Socialist International Women organization, condemned the Azeri women
who make a national hero out of Ramil Safarov, murderer of Gourgen
Margarian, Armenian officer, at today's press conference in Yerevan.
As for the women's participation in the public life, she said that the
situation in Armenia is much better than in neighbouring
countries. She said that the situation of the women's rights in
Armenia has been considerably improved for the last few
years.Nevertheless, she stated that the violence over women is still
one of the urgent problems in Armenia. Haas also expressed concern
about the large number of unemployed women, the decrease of birth rate
in Armenia.
In her turn, Maria Titizian, representative of ARF "Dashnaktsiutiun"
in Socintern, said that the membership of her party to this
organization helps put forward urgent problems of Armenia at the
international level. She emphasized that they discussed the issue of
annihilated Armenian Middle Age Cross Stones in Nakhijevan at the
latest sitting of the organization.
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Azeri pressure group accuses Hungarian court of bias
Trend news agency
9 Mar 06
Baku, 9 March: The city court of Budapest has taken a biased stance
towards Azerbaijani officer Ramil Safarov by not heeding lawyers'
arguments, as well as the causes and the motivation of his deed
[Safarov is accused of killing an Armenian officer during NATO
courses], the Karabakh Liberation Organization (KLO) has said in a
statement.
The city court of Budapest accepted the findings of the fourth expert
conclusion on Ramil Safarov which said that he was sane when
committing the crime. The findings of two previous expert opinions
were not taken into consideration [the second conclusion said he was
partially sane and the third certified him as not sane]. The KLO
believes that the decision of the city court of Budapest and the
refusal to look into petitions filed by Safarov's defence represent an
attempt to deliver the harshest verdict on his case at the directives
from the Armenian government.
"The Hungarian authorities could not resist the pressure from the
Armenian leadership and the Armenian lobby. They did not take a fair
position but [acted] in the interests of the political situation. The
KLO resolutely condemns the decision of the court and demands a change
in the position of the Hungarian authorities which was formed under
Armenians' pressure. If the city court of Budapest delivers an unfair
verdict, this will be a blow to relations between Azerbaijan and
Hungary," the statement said.
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Safarov Guilty
07:40 pm 07 March, 2006
Budapest court brought in a verdict of guilty to Azeri officer Ramil Safarov accused with the murder of Armenian officer Gourgen Margaryan.
Nazeli Vardanyan pleading for Margaryan’s family informed “Freedom” radio station that the testimony of two Hungarian witnesses and teh conclusion of fourth expert the judge refused today all the petitions of Safarov's barristers on calling new witnesses and on the background of the first expert’s conclusion (about Safarov’s being guilty at the moment of committing the crime) decided that there was enough information for the final conclusion of the prosecution and the defence.
Accusatory and defending speeches, as well as the final plea of the accused will be heard at the next sitting, appointed on April 4.
The decision of the court will be sounded on April 13.
By the way, according to the criminal code of Hungary and the brought in accusation Ramil Safarov will be sentenced to 8-15 or life imprisonment.
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Budapest court to make a sentence in regard to Azeri officer on 13 Apr
Source: ‘Trend’
Author: E.Javadova
07.03.2006
The Budapest court will make a sentence in regard to Azerbaijani officer Ramil Safarov on 13 April, Trend reports quoting Adil Ismayilov, the Azerbaijani lawyer of the defendant.
According to Ismayilov, the expert report was heard out at the sitting held on 7 March. “Experts were invited to the sitting and their report was heard out. Examination was set thrice in relation to psychological state of Safarov and all three expert reports contradict to each other. This time experts confirmed report of the first examination, showing that Safarov was sane person during commitment of the incident, as well as at present time. The expert, made the second expert report, also participated in the sitting. In accordance with this expert report, Safarov was regarded as medium-sane. Nevertheless, the experts, made the third expert report, were not invited to the sitting. In accordance with the third expert report, Safarov was insane during the incident and at present time, but the judge did not take it into consideration,” Ismayilov noted.
According to Ismayilov, during the last sitting the court investigated contradictions between the reports and accepted the first one. The judge addressed to sides with will to sum up the sitting.
“The lawyer of Safarov in Budapest informed the judge that she was not ready for making speech and must to get some documents. Therefore, the judge put the next sitting till 4 and 13 April. He said that the sentence will be made on 13 April after delivery of speeches,” Ismayilov noted.
It should be mentioned that Safarov is accused of murder of Armenian officer Gurgen Markarian.
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