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Thanks for it Gavur.Is your real name Gavur?(I wonder) -
No!
I was told it was by (mostly Donme) Moslems"All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)Comment
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And some Sunnis
Never by Shias"All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)Comment
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Gavur is used for people who are not muslims in turkey.Originally posted by GavurComment
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Yes sunnis use gavur for chrıstıans jewish and also Shias(Alevis in Turkey)Do you know alevis?Originally posted by Gavur
I am alevi so sometimes Sunnis say me gavur also.
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Genocide Topic Refers Both Historians And Public: French Fm
GENOCIDE TOPIC REFERS BOTH HISTORIANS AND PUBLIC: FRENCH FM
YEREVAN, FEBRUARY 3. ARMINFO. After the Year of Armenia in France
is celebrated in April-November 2006, in 2007 France will mark the
Year of Turkey, French Foreign Minister Phillip Doust-Blazy told his
Turkish colleague Abdulah Gul in Ankara, writes The Hurriet.
Asked about the Armenian Genocide of 1915 at a press conference after
the meeting, the French foreign minister said the EU members have
reached agreement and mutual understanding on this issue. It is time
to raise and discuss in detail the coordinated topics, he said. Such
topics refer not only historians but also the public, the foreign
minister added. Phillip Doust-Blazy pointed out the importance of
definite progress in Turkey in the issue of Armenian Genocide. He
said the country supports the idea of further discussion of Genocide
topic in the public. He noted that the law adopted in France in 2001
displays the attitude of the French public to the tragedy of 1915.Comment
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State of Ohio to pass Armenian Genocide resolution
State of Ohio to pass Armenian Genocide resolution
03.02.2006 15:57
YEREVAN (YERKIR) - Todd Book, the deputy minority leader of the Ohio
State Assembly, submitted a draft resolution to the State Assembly on
February 1, which, if passed, designate April 24 the day of remembrance
of the Armenian Genocide.
"April 24 is declared the day of remembrance of the Armenian Genocide
to mark the 1.5 million Armenians killed in the Ottoman Empire,"
the resolution says.
Speaking to Radio Liberty, Armenian National Committee of America
representative Elizabeth Chouldjian said the text is very simple. The
ANCA has sent appreciation letters to the Ohio State Assembly.
"We are working towards encouraging 40,000-50,000 Armenians of Ohio
to urge other lawmakers to vote in favor of the resolution," Doug
Jorjarian, the ANCA Eastern Region director said.Comment
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Turkey Understood International Recognition Of Armenian Genocide Unstoppable
TURKEY UNDERSTOOD INTERNATIONAL RECOGNITION OF ARMENIAN GENOCIDE UNSTOPPABLE
Yerkir
15.02.2006 12:31
YEREVAN (YERKIR) - Turkey convening several international conferences
on the Armenian Genocide in the Ottoman Empire evidences the country
finally understood the process of recognition of the Armenian Genocide
by parliaments of different countries, even those like Latvia, Poland,
Slovakia, where there the Armenian communities are not large, has
gathered speed, Director of Institute of History of the National
Academy of Sciences of Armenia, Doctor of Historical Science Ashot
Melkonyan told PanARMENIAN.Net correspondent. In his words, Armenian
scholars not participating in conferences on Armenian Genocide in
Turkey just convinces the parliaments of countries, which recognized
the Genocide that they were right.
"If we bring the matter to historical debate with Turks, we will
indirectly express distrust to states, which believed us. I want
to remind that the sadly known Armenian-Turkish Reconciliation
Commission, which existed from 2001 to 2003, suspended recognition of
the Genocide. As soon as it was disbanded, literally in 15 days the
Swiss Parliament acknowledged the Armenian Genocide," Melkonyan said.
Speaking of trials of journalists in Turkey, Ashot Melkonyan remarked
it may be inspired by Turkish authorities themselves. "Taner Akcam,
the Armenian press likes referring to, does what he is told by
Ankara. It is like a pilot balloon and at the same time a curtsey
towards Europe, aimed to show Turkey takes the way of democratic
development and it has freedom of speech. In actual fact everything
can turn out quite the contrary," Melkonyan emphasized. In his words,
Turkey choosing the way of canceling the "taboo" of the Armenian
issue means nothing. "Turkey just tangles cards in Europe," he said.Comment
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Serbia denies Mladic arrested
Serbia denies Mladic arrestedOriginally posted by Hovik
news.yahoo.com
The Serbian government on Tuesday denied media reports that top Bosnian Serb war crimes fugitive Gen. Ratko Mladic had been arrested, but Bosnian and Serbian sources said he was in custody in Bosnia.
"The news about Ratko Mladic is not correct," government spokesman Srdjan Djuric said. "It is a manipulation which damages the (Serbian) government."
Djuric was speaking to Reuters by telephone. No official statement was issued.
Independent Belgrade broadcaster B92 said that in spite of Djuric's denial, a number of sources had told its reporters that the 63-year old general was arrested in Serbia then transferred to Tuzla in northeastern Bosnia for a flight to The Hague.
This was the route used to take former Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic to The Hague when he was extradited in 2001 and flown from Belgrade via the U.S. military base Camp Eagle near Tuzla to the Netherlands.
Morning newspapers on Tuesday speculated that Belgrade would spirit Mladic into Bosnia after his arrest in order to counter charges by the Hague war crimes tribunal that he had been hiding in Serbia for years with government knowledge and army help.
In the afternoon, Serbia's state news agency Tanjug and the main Bosnian Serb agency SRNA said the wartime Bosnian Serb Army commander had been arrested in Belgrade then taken to Tuzla.
TWO COUNTS OF GENOCIDE
Mladic was indicted in 1995 for genocide for the 43-month siege of Sarajevo which claimed 12,000 lives and for orchestrating the 1995 massacre of some 8,000 Muslims at Srebrenica, the worst atrocity in Europe since World War Two.
His political boss Radovan Karadzic, indicted on the same charges, is still at large.
Serbian newspapers have been saying for days that Mladic would be on a plane to The Hague before the end of February, in time to avert suspension of European Union association talks with Belgrade, which would deal a body blow to the government.
The end of February is the deadline for a report by EU Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn to the EU assessing whether Serbia is cooperating fully with the U.N. tribunal.
Florence Hartmann, spokeswoman for the U.N. war crimes prosecutor, said they had no information on the reported arrest. "These are rumors, we cannot comment on something that doesn't exist," she said.
Without confirming the newspaper reports of an imminent arrest, Vladeta Jankovic, adviser to Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica, said efforts to find Mladic were "in full swing."
"The government is aware of the consequences," he told B92 radio. "It might be a decisive moment, not only for the survival of the government, but for the future prospects of the state," he said. Mladic's handover was "almost a condition of survival."
Belgrade is desperate to avoid suspension of Stabilization and Association pact talks begun last year. They are the first step to eventual EU membership -- Serbia's top priority -- and Brussels has warned they will stop if Mladic is not arrested.
Reports predicting his imminent arrest or detailing official efforts to track him down intensify each time Serbia faces a Western deadline for action, although Serbia constantly protests that it has no evidence he is even in the country.
Mladic lived openly in Belgrade until the fall of nationalist strongman Slobodan Milosevic in 2000 undermined his support. Hague chief prosecutor Carla Del Ponte has repeatedly charged that he is still protected by hardliners in the Army and security agencies of Serbia.
Serbian Human Rights Minister Rasim Ljajic said it would be a good time to extradite Mladic, who is still regarded as a hero-soldier by staunch nationalists opposed to his arrest.
"The latest polls show 57 percent of citizens are in favor of this option," he said.Comment
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Alevis are called as Gavur?
Did you ever hear it said to yourself Rudo?
May be it is because some of the alevis are fierce left-wingers like TIKKO type anarchists. Thats not because they are alevis but because they are extreme-left wingers.
Originally posted by RUDOYes sunnis use gavur for chrıstıans jewish and also Shias(Alevis in Turkey)Do you know alevis?
I am alevi so sometimes Sunnis say me gavur also.Comment
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