turk Arrested with His Wife's Head in Bag

[imported_Sensei]

Man found with wife's head in bag

A man is being held by German police after walking into a petrol station with his wife's severed head in a bag.

The 40-year-old man, of Turkish origin, was covered in blood when he approached the night counter at about 0400 GMT and asked the attendant to call the police.

Hamburg police said officers found the head in a bag on a grass verge and arrested the man, who was in a confused state and admitted killing his wife.

The body of the woman, aged 39, was found in their nearby flat.

Hamburg police spokeswoman Ulrike Sweden said the man seemed "a bit crazy" and may have to see a doctor before charges can be brought.

Daughters safe

She said police found a large knife in the flat in Eissendorf, in the south of the city.

"It seems he used the knife to kill his wife and cut off the head," she told the BBC News website.

The couple's two children - girls aged 13 and six - were found in the flat and taken into police care.

"It seems they didn't see the body or what was going on," the spokeswoman said. A motive for the attack is still unclear.

Both the man and his wife were of Turkish origin, with German citizenship.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4825498.stm

[TurQ]

And your point is?

Man found with wife's head in bag

A man is being held by German police after walking into a petrol station with his wife's severed head in a bag.

The 40-year-old man, of Turkish origin, was covered in blood when he approached the night counter at about 0400 GMT and asked the attendant to call the police.

Hamburg police said officers found the head in a bag on a grass verge and arrested the man, who was in a confused state and admitted killing his wife.

The body of the woman, aged 39, was found in their nearby flat.

Hamburg police spokeswoman Ulrike Sweden said the man seemed "a bit crazy" and may have to see a doctor before charges can be brought.

Daughters safe

She said police found a large knife in the flat in Eissendorf, in the south of the city.

"It seems he used the knife to kill his wife and cut off the head," she told the BBC News website.

The couple's two children - girls aged 13 and six - were found in the flat and taken into police care.

"It seems they didn't see the body or what was going on," the spokeswoman said. A motive for the attack is still unclear.

Both the man and his wife were of Turkish origin, with German citizenship.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4825498.stm

[imported_Sensei]

And your point is?

What do you think?

[TurQ]

No!
You cant be that stupid.

What do you think?

[Gavur]

I dont want Turks to love me because I know what they can do if they really love you.

[Gavur]

Not Only Armenians but Also Native Europeans Are against Turks in Europe

22.03.2006 22:42 GMT+04:00
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ It’s hard to stop anti-Armenian rallies and speeches in France. The Hay Dat European Office will counteract them by all means from propaganda up to purposeful policy, ARF Bureau’s Hay Dat and Political Office Director Kiro Manoian told PanARMENIAN.Net reporter. In his words, the Armenian community of France counting 350-400 thousand people is very solid. “Armenians wield influence on the French authorities while Turks numbering 850 thousand are badly organized and have no political weight,” he noted.

Kiro Manoian also added that the Turkish community is mostly province-born and has no precise notion of the country they live in. “The Turkish community is relatively new and doesn’t enjoy respect in France. The fact that Armenians were supported by the French and Arabs is important. Turks should understand that not only Armenians but also natives of France, Germany and other states speak out against them in Europe,” he underscored.

It should be also noted that ARFD Bureau member Vahan Hovhannisian addressed the Armenian National Assembly in view of the French-Turkish events in Lyons. “I do believe that all of you will welcome those several dozens of young people, who were not frightened by several hundreds of savages, who cannot do without bludgeons even in France. I would like to address a particular welcome to the French and Arabs who supported our compatriots and I think it will always be so,” he said.

[TurQ]

Wow,

He speaks his mind obviously as if he really knows the Turkish community in EU countries. Simple same static and primitive assumptions.

Is this a new NeoNazi coalition or what?
Maybe this have existed long before?

I would be ashamed for these remarks if I were Armenian.
it is like a broken LP playing the same thing when they hear the word "Turk".

It is sad and pitiful they think they are affecting Eu or world community in the end they effect only ultra-nationalists. They are happy probably they thought they are being influensive without knowing actually this kind of people are just being puppets of those ultra-nationalists and neo nazis. They think they are supported by the Arabs but the very same ultranationalists are anti Arab. Do this people have a dignity to face their Arab friends after this remarks? May be it is one of those countless flip-flops

So Sad, after 90 years this kind of people could only integrated with Nazi Europeans or the extreme left. At least the Turkish community is relatively new, improving and thriving rapidly. Thanks to Turkish state policy that left them alone for 30 something years, didnt help them to integrate successfully. But in last 10 or so years the integration is rapid and open minded Europeans welcome them. On the contrary this lobbyst Armenians could only integrated into extreme left and extreme right.

22.03.2006 22:42 GMT+04:00


Kiro Manoian also added that the Turkish community is mostly province-born and has no precise notion of the country they live in. “The Turkish community is relatively new and doesn’t enjoy respect in France. The fact that Armenians were supported by the French and Arabs is important. Turks should understand that not only Armenians but also natives of France, Germany and other states speak out against them in Europe,” he underscored.

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[TurQ]

In Response to this Kıro guy or Kiro, (meaning macho), here is a post by Turkish born Armenian who lives in France

Raffi A. Hermonn
Gazeteci-Araştırmacı-Sinemacı
P a r i s’t e “Ermeni-Türk, bir Demokratik Diyalog Hareketi için Girişim„ Kurucusu ve Sözcüsü

Founder and Representative of the "Initiation for Armenian-Turkish Democratic Dialogoue Movement".

"“Hasta” sıfatının, kimler için kullanıyorsak, işte onların rencide olmamaları amacıyla, gelin “nezle” sıfatını kullanalım ... Evet “nezle !”

Kronik nezle olmuş, kişi veya zümrelerin, “nezle”lik durumundan çıkabilmeleri için, önce kendilerinin “nezle”liklerini kabul etmeleri; gerçek dostların da, sözkonusu kişi ve zümrelerin yüzlerine, geveleyip, kem küm etmeden “nezle” olduklarını, açıkça söylemeleri şarttır. "

(refering to Hardline Diasporans)
For whom we use the word "Sick" in order not to hurt the feelings of sick people lets use the word "head cold"
yes "head cold"!

Those individuals or communities who caught "cold" should first have to admit that they are actually having cold in head in order to recover from it; and real friends should tell them openly that they are actually suffering from cold"
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"Fransa Ermenilerinin, (sessiz çoğunluğun yanında azınlıkta kalan) başını çektiği AB’den bir grup Ermeni “Türkiye’nin, AB ile müzakerelerin başlaması için tarihi alabilmesine engel (!) olabilmek” için, Avrupa’daki Ermeni Diyaspora’sını şaha kaldırmak istedi.

600 bine yakını Fransa’da olan, 1 milyona yakın Ermeni kökenli nüfusun var olduğu Avrupa’nın dört bir yanından ... topu topu (diyelim) 6 bin Ermeni Brüksel’e gitti ! "

" Lead by French Armenians(a minority wrt to silent majority) aimed to galvanize Armenains of Europe to hinder(!) Turkish application for EU membership.

600,000 in France and 1 million total in Europe at most(lets say) 6,000 Armenians went Brussels(for demonstrations). "

Read the rest from this link(In Turkish) from website by IStanbul Armenians.

http://www.hyetert.com/yazi3.asp?s=0&AltYazi=Makaleler+%5C%3E+Genel&Id=207&DilId=1

Obviously this Kiro(Kıro) guy was one of those that was galvanized!. I dont know what means they have used to galvanize him

22.03.2006 22:42 GMT+04:00
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ It’s hard to stop anti-Armenian rallies and speeches in France. The Hay Dat European Office will counteract them by all means from propaganda up to purposeful policy, ARF Bureau’s Hay Dat and Political Office Director Kiro Manoian told PanARMENIAN.Net reporter. In his words, the Armenian community of France counting 350-400 thousand people is very solid. “Armenians wield influence on the French authorities while Turks numbering 850 thousand are badly organized and have no political weight,” he noted.

Kiro Manoian also added that the Turkish community is mostly province-born and has no precise notion of the country they live in. “The Turkish community is relatively new and doesn’t enjoy respect in France. The fact that Armenians were supported by the French and Arabs is important. Turks should understand that not only Armenians but also natives of France, Germany and other states speak out against them in Europe,” he underscored.

It should be also noted that ARFD Bureau member Vahan Hovhannisian addressed the Armenian National Assembly in view of the French-Turkish events in Lyons. “I do believe that all of you will welcome those several dozens of young people, who were not frightened by several hundreds of savages, who cannot do without bludgeons even in France. I would like to address a particular welcome to the French and Arabs who supported our compatriots and I think it will always be so,” he said.

[Joseph]

What do you think?

Sensei,

I know you're not going to like what I say but you shouldn't judge all people by the actions of individuals. There are murders, thugery and injustince in Armenia too.

[TurQ]

http://www.hyetert.com/yazi3.asp?s=0&AltYazi=Makaleler+%5C%3E+Genel&Id=207&DilId=1

From the same article
- Not only Armenian but for all Diasporas that are having problem of saving/securing their idenity, if nationalism of racist kind ,which is the easiest but also the most unhealthy means, is used then the point that's attained is "CATCHING COLD".....

-Just consider the emotions of an Armenian youth in Stroudsburg in 18 June 1987 who attended demonstrations against Turkey and fevrently believed in that recogition of genocide is the only way for Turkey's membership to EU, and consider emotions of same youth who were carried by busses to Brussels in december 17 2005!.

-Defitinetly the problem is not with the youth but with the leaders of some diaspora leaders who are selling their ideals to their youth.

-At the end the dreams are destroyed by the words "We have been lied again!", "We were betrayed", "We have been lead to insuccess!", and those who sell their ideals are responsible for the escape of hundreds of thousands of youth from their Armenian identity because of such actions in the name of preserving the identity of diaspora.

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Sadece Ermenilerin değil, tüm Diyaspora’ların, baş sorunu olan “kimlik korunması” için, en kolay ama en sağlıksız yol olan “ırkçılığa varan milliyetçilik”e başvurulduğu takdirde, varılan nokta ... NEZLE OLMAK’tır ...

Bir kimliğin varlığını korumak, devam ettirmek, dahası el topraklarında köksalmasını, sürekli “uzakta olan bir düşman” üzerinden ve “gerçekleşmeyeceği yüzde yüz bilinen, ama kin - nefret tohumları eken, abartılı idealler ve rüyalar vaat ederek” sağlamaya çalışmanın, özneleri giderek kronikleşen bir NEZLE haline dönüştürmekten başka bir işe yaramadığını, söylemeye gerek var mı acaba ? ...

Birkaç bin Ermeninin, Strasbourg’da toplanarak : “AB’ye girebilmesi için Ermeni Soykırımı’nın resmen tanımasının şart olduğunu, Türkiye’ye kabul ettirilebileceğine” inanmış, bir Ermeni gencinin, 18 Haziran 1987’deki ruh halini bir tasavvur edin ... Aynı gencin 17 Aralık 2005’te otobüse doluşturularak getirildiği Brüksel’deki ruh halini de !!!

Sorun tabii ki bu gençte değil, asıl ... gerçekleşmeyeceği yüzde yüz bilinmesine karşın, benzeri hayalleri, “Ermeni kimliğini koruma” adına, bu gence sunup satan, azınlıkta da olsa, seslerini göreceli olarak duyurtabilen, bazı Diyaspora yöneticilerindedir.

Sonuçta : “yine kandırıldık !”, “yine bizi kazıkladılar !”, “yine bizi aldattılar !” ve yine “başarısızlığa uğratıldık !” diye hüsrana uğrayan, morali gitgide düşen, özgüvenini kaybeden ve bu yalanların, adına yapıldığı “Ermeni kimliği”nden, böyle uzaklaşan, yüzbinlerce genç !