armenian show- genocide story...

[Gavur]

When I hear dog Turk socalled nationalists Ulkucu+Ulusalci=Dog not wolf
talk about genociding the Armenians again
it brings extreme feelings out in me

[Gavur]

Since I heard that last week I feel very hostile against any Turk unless they clearly show me they are completely opposite of those dogs.

[turque]

You know that they are marginals and they just use Armenian thing nothing else, they are not nationalist, or ulkucu(part of traitors among ulkucu joined those ulusalci). They are traitors and just use those threats against Armenians, they cant touch Turkey's Armenians, if they do it they'll pay you know how they are arrested.
They are cheap opportunists!

When I hear dog Turk socalled nationalists Ulkucu+Ulusalci=Dog not wolf
talk about genociding the Armenians again
it brings extreme feelings out in me

[turque]

They are even not few jsut a few opprtunist traitors. It is upto you to accuse all Turks which is not FAIR

They cant touch Turkey's Armenians
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Since I heard that last week I feel very hostile against any Turk unless they clearly show me they are completely opposite of those dogs.

[Gavur]

There's no official entity called "Western Armenia" exists, and never existed before either. Eastern Anatolia belongs to Turkey according to international law and agreements.

Karabag, Jan Karabag is under occupation by Armenian forces for the last 14+ years by the Armenian forces backed by republic of Armenia. And there's no agreement actually supports the Armenian control of Karabag, therefore the Armenian army in Karabag is an occupation army, nad Karabag is occupied by the Armenian forces illegally, and the Azeris of Karabag massacred and ethnically cleansed by this army. It's often ignored that not only KArabag but the surrounding provices also occupied by Armenians which makes roughly 25% of Azerbeyjan. It is also often not mention ed by Armenians that the Azeris and other Muslims brutally cleasned from the region between Nahjivan and Azerbeyjan.

When you're talkinga bout justice you obviously dont think Azeris deserve it.

It is also obvious that comparing Eastern Anatolia, with Jan KArabag is nothing but revenge of 1915, and Armenians see that Karabag is continuation of 1915 and and avenging the past according to them. Otherwise Eastern Anatolia and Karabag has no other way of comparison.

It is this mentallity that prevents Turkey to open the border, it is not only the occupation of Jan Karabag

I guess this is the last poison of misinformation you will insert in this forum
Bye Turq i hope I entartained you while here in the mean time i hope you learned some new things which I doubt!

[Joseph]

dear joseph
I remind you karabakh is still under armanian occupation. I understand something happened long time ago but insisting to continue that is absolutely unnecessary.. as a turkish I do not have any problem with you but what you think about us is definately "ridiculous". I checked the entire portal and saw really weird info regarding us.

Yes system of a down is my favourite music group. I dont care what they think. and I believe you are surprised hearing this because of your prejudice.. I just dont understand your hatred against us.....

Regions outside of Artsakh such as Agdam and Gubatli are under Armenian occupation. Artsakh is inhabited by a vast majority of Armenians, they are not under occupation. And now I'll remond you that the northern portion of Cyprus is still under Turkish occupation

[Joseph]

There's no official entity called "Western Armenia" exists, and never existed before either. Eastern Anatolia belongs to Turkey according to international law and agreements.

Karabag, Jan Karabag is under occupation by Armenian forces for the last 14+ years by the Armenian forces backed by republic of Armenia. And there's no agreement actually supports the Armenian control of Karabag, therefore the Armenian army in Karabag is an occupation army, nad Karabag is occupied by the Armenian forces illegally, and the Azeris of Karabag massacred and ethnically cleansed by this army. It's often ignored that not only KArabag but the surrounding provices also occupied by Armenians which makes roughly 25% of Azerbeyjan. It is also often not mention ed by Armenians that the Azeris and other Muslims brutally cleasned from the region between Nahjivan and Azerbeyjan.

When you're talkinga bout justice you obviously dont think Azeris deserve it.

It is also obvious that comparing Eastern Anatolia, with Jan KArabag is nothing but revenge of 1915, and Armenians see that Karabag is continuation of 1915 and and avenging the past according to them. Otherwise Eastern Anatolia and Karabag has no other way of comparison.

It is this mentallity that prevents Turkey to open the border, it is not only the occupation of Jan Karabag

Actually the proper name for Western Armenia was Armenia Major and there also existed the Armenia state of Cilicia also known as Armenian Minor.

Regarding Artsakh, the Armenian population, as an autnomous region voted to withdraw from Soviet Azerbaijan in 1991 and I believe they will eventually have their indepence recognized much as Kosovo, Montenegro and East Timor. And just for kicks, why not use google and search for information on "Operation Ring", even the chief Azeri apologist Thomas Goltz agrees that this action/ethnic cleansing of Armenians led to the full-out combat and yes, please do not forget Sumgait, Kirovabad and Baku, where Armenians were attacked in their home and on the street for being Armenian- these people were Soviet citizens first and foremost and had nothing to do with Artsakh.
If you discount Artsakh from the equation, which you should, Armenians control 10% of Azerbaijan. It is not often mentiond that Armenians were ethcnically cleansed from Nakhichevan, Kirovabad, and Shahumian in the 1920's.

[Joseph]

Having said that I am not illuisioned that we'll get Karabag back, at least sometime soon, but obviously Turkey will not let Armenia get away with this with no cost. I am hearing that there might be some concessions by the Armenians, giving a corridor and land from the region between Nahjivan and Azerbeyjan. If that kind of concessions happens this problem could be settled down, but at this moment without no cost niether Azerbeyjan nor Turkey will accept status quo, the occupation.

It is most likely that the peace accord to be reached will result in Armenia keeping Artsakh in addition to Karavachar and Berdzor and the Azeri's will get some of their occupied territories back, thus resulting in both side making concessions. This is what is currently being discussed. UN peacekeepers will then be stationed to seperate the two hostile populations. A possible land corridor (a highway) administered by the UN has been floated to connect Nackhichevan and Azerbaijan proper was floated but is now becoming very remote. Furthermore, I don't think the EU will accept Turkish occupation of Cyprus much longer

[Joseph]

of course brother turque. turkey will be the strongest advocator of Azerbeyjan under any circumstance. but we young turkish also want no dispute with armania as well. Armenian who actually live in the west (europa or america ) dont consider their home country..if turkey doesnt open the borders armenian economy will not develop rapidly..

But now how can anybody expect turkey to open border after this hostility?

It has been difficult but Armenia is developing in spite of the closed borders. For a country with few resources and after 70 years of Sovietization, Armenia is doing remarkably well. I have seen the changes from 1994 to today. All the embargo will accomplish is decades more of lingering hatred and mistrust for the Turks. It seems ironic that Turks always claim to be unracist, against panturkist adventures, and magnanimous towards the Armenians yet they sure jumped to help their ethnic cousins right away, didn't they even in the late 1980's when Armenians were being attacked, didn't they?

[Joseph]

dear Gavur
getting angry after a right and true explanation shows that you are false (addresing people "punk" is not moral).. I urgently and kindly ask you stop thinking this way, try to get psychological aid.. because this fake genocide story absolutely affected you badly...

Right and true, explanation??? What have you been smoking son?