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  • #21
    Kerincsiz dog!
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Gavur
      Kerincsiz dog!
      By saying dog to Kerinçsiz,you are insulting dogs!!!

      Our loyal friends(dogs)will be frustrated from your sentence.

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      • #23
        The Armenian Patriarch of Istanbul is a verbal gymnast.Hehas tobe, to keephis life!



        Mutafyan Disagrees With Catholicos on Genocide Recognition

        ISTANBUL (Marmara)The Armenian Patriarch of Istanbul Archbishop Mesrob
        Mutafyan
        told reporters Wednesday that he did not agree with statements made by His
        Holiness Karekin II, the Catholicos of All Armenians regarding the need for
        the
        Turkish recognition of the Armenian Genocide. Mutafyan proposed that the "1915
        issue" be addressed by historians and sociologists in order for the sides to
        "understand each other's sensitivities."
        During a pontifical visit to Istanbul, Catholicos Karekin II said the
        Genocide
        was not a debatable issue for Armenians and it is a fact that Turkey should
        recognize. The Turkish press reacted adversely to this statement, with one
        newspaperthe Hurriyetcharacterizing the Catholicos' visit as a protest
        demonstration.
        Mutafyan said that the Catholicos' statements were not unexpected and since
        his pontifical visit was being covered by the Armenian media and would be seen
        by the Diaspora communities, "the Catholicos spoke taking into consideration
        Diasporan sensitivities."

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        "All truth passes through three stages:
        First, it is ridiculed;
        Second, it is violently opposed; and
        Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

        Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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        • #24
          Originally posted by RUDO
          Gavur bu sözlerimizden dolayı bize de dava açmasın bu Kerinçsiz iti???
          In Turkey theres a different definition of hung jury!
          Mob justice.
          "All truth passes through three stages:
          First, it is ridiculed;
          Second, it is violently opposed; and
          Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

          Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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          • #25
            His Holiness Karekin II Completes Pontifical Visit to Istanbul

            PRESS RELEASE
            Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin, Information Services
            Address: Vagharshapat, Republic of Armenia
            Contact: Rev. Fr. Ktrij Devejian
            Tel: (374 10) 517 163
            Fax: (374 10) 517 301
            E-Mail: [email protected]
            Website: www.armenianchurch.org
            June 28, 2006



            His Holiness Karekin II, Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of All Armenians,
            having completed his first Pontifical Visit to Istanbul, returned to the
            Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin in the early morning hours of June 28. The
            seven-day visit included a two day fraternal visit to the Ecumenical
            Patriarch, followed by five days with the Armenian community of Istanbul and
            the Armenian Patriarchate of Constantinople.

            Although His Holiness' flight arrived in Yerevan in the middle of the night,
            waiting for him in the Mother Cathedral of Holy Etchmiadzin at 4:00 AM, were
            hundreds of faithful who had come to welcome him home. His Holiness'
            procession was escorted into the Mother Cathedral under the singing of the
            `Hrashapar' hymn. Standing before the Holy Altar of Descent, the Catholicos
            of All Armenians offered prayers of thanks to heaven and thereafter conveyed
            the unforgettable and warm impressions from his pontifical visit to all
            those present. His Holiness Karekin II joyfully reflected on the
            enthusiastic reception he received from the Armenian community of Istanbul,
            as expression of their love and devotion to the Holy Armenian Apostolic
            Church and the Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin.

            His Holiness stated, `Glory and thanksgiving to God. We return from our
            pontifical visit to our sons and daughters in Constantinople with a content
            heart. Our soul was filled with joy to personally see and meet our faithful
            children, their enthusiastic devoted faith, and their patriotic spirit. We
            communed with 600 years of history and treasures of the Armenian
            Patriarchate of Constantinople.'

            The Pontiff of All Armenians stated with contentment that the Armenian
            community of Istanbul, a community that lives, breathes and speaks Armenian,
            is active today with a vibrant national life. The community has 39
            churches, 17 Armenian schools and many institutions, the largest of which is
            the Holy All-Savior National Hospital. His Holiness also fondly recalled
            his meetings with Armenian intellectuals and youth of Istanbul.

            As the visit of His Holiness was widely covered by the Armenian and Turkish
            press and media in Turkey, His Holiness spoke of the press conference
            convened in Istanbul on Sunday, June 25, following the Pontifical Divine
            Liturgy, during which the Armenian Genocide was discussed. (The full text
            of the press conference will be available tomorrow on the website of the
            Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin, www.armenianchurch.org). In reply to the
            concerns about the prospect that His Holiness' statements on the Armenian
            Genocide could negatively affect the attitude of the Turkish authorities
            towards the Armenians of Turkey, the Catholicos stated, `We do not believe
            that our thoughts and words can affect the attitude of the authorities
            towards our Armenians in Istanbul, because we never expressed hatred or
            enmity, we simply stated the reality and the truth. Taking into account the
            process of democratization, which the Turkish authorities desire to achieve
            in their country, we also do not believe that extremist nationalistic forces
            will succeed in sowing hatred and enmity toward the Armenians or other
            minorities living in Turkey.'

            His Holiness continued, stating that as many countries have recognized the
            Genocide of the Armenians, so too must Turkey recognize the Genocide, for
            which there exists no need for deliberations.

            Regarding the protests that had been organized in Istanbul during his visit,
            noting that the Turkish authorities characterized them as the `actions of
            extremist groups', His Holiness emphasized that in no way did they diminish
            his impressions from the trip. Due to the unprecedented security measures
            which were implemented, they did not obstruct the activities of the
            Pontifical Visit and generally remained unnoticed by the delegation.

            Just before daybreak in Holy Etchmiadzin, as His Holiness concluded his
            remarks, he once again expressed his appreciation to the Armenian Patriarch
            of Constantinople and the faithful people of Istanbul for the warm
            reception, and offered his prayers for the stability and vibrancy of the
            Armenian Patriarchate. The Pontiff of All Armenians also warmly expressed
            his thanks to all those present who had waited all night long to greet him
            upon his return to Armenia.
            "All truth passes through three stages:
            First, it is ridiculed;
            Second, it is violently opposed; and
            Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

            Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Gavur
              PRESS RELEASE
              Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin, Information Services
              Address: Vagharshapat, Republic of Armenia
              Contact: Rev. Fr. Ktrij Devejian
              Tel: (374 10) 517 163
              Fax: (374 10) 517 301
              E-Mail: [email protected]
              Website: www.armenianchurch.org
              June 28, 2006



              His Holiness Karekin II, Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of All Armenians,
              having completed his first Pontifical Visit to Istanbul, returned to the
              Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin in the early morning hours of June 28. The
              seven-day visit included a two day fraternal visit to the Ecumenical
              Patriarch, followed by five days with the Armenian community of Istanbul and
              the Armenian Patriarchate of Constantinople.

              Although His Holiness' flight arrived in Yerevan in the middle of the night,
              waiting for him in the Mother Cathedral of Holy Etchmiadzin at 4:00 AM, were
              hundreds of faithful who had come to welcome him home. His Holiness'
              procession was escorted into the Mother Cathedral under the singing of the
              `Hrashapar' hymn. Standing before the Holy Altar of Descent, the Catholicos
              of All Armenians offered prayers of thanks to heaven and thereafter conveyed
              the unforgettable and warm impressions from his pontifical visit to all
              those present. His Holiness Karekin II joyfully reflected on the
              enthusiastic reception he received from the Armenian community of Istanbul,
              as expression of their love and devotion to the Holy Armenian Apostolic
              Church and the Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin.

              His Holiness stated, `Glory and thanksgiving to God. We return from our
              pontifical visit to our sons and daughters in Constantinople with a content
              heart. Our soul was filled with joy to personally see and meet our faithful
              children, their enthusiastic devoted faith, and their patriotic spirit. We
              communed with 600 years of history and treasures of the Armenian
              Patriarchate of Constantinople.'

              The Pontiff of All Armenians stated with contentment that the Armenian
              community of Istanbul, a community that lives, breathes and speaks Armenian,
              is active today with a vibrant national life. The community has 39
              churches, 17 Armenian schools and many institutions, the largest of which is
              the Holy All-Savior National Hospital. His Holiness also fondly recalled
              his meetings with Armenian intellectuals and youth of Istanbul.

              As the visit of His Holiness was widely covered by the Armenian and Turkish
              press and media in Turkey, His Holiness spoke of the press conference
              convened in Istanbul on Sunday, June 25, following the Pontifical Divine
              Liturgy, during which the Armenian Genocide was discussed. (The full text
              of the press conference will be available tomorrow on the website of the
              Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin, www.armenianchurch.org). In reply to the
              concerns about the prospect that His Holiness' statements on the Armenian
              Genocide could negatively affect the attitude of the Turkish authorities
              towards the Armenians of Turkey, the Catholicos stated, `We do not believe
              that our thoughts and words can affect the attitude of the authorities
              towards our Armenians in Istanbul, because we never expressed hatred or
              enmity, we simply stated the reality and the truth. Taking into account the
              process of democratization, which the Turkish authorities desire to achieve
              in their country, we also do not believe that extremist nationalistic forces
              will succeed in sowing hatred and enmity toward the Armenians or other
              minorities living in Turkey.'

              His Holiness continued, stating that as many countries have recognized the
              Genocide of the Armenians, so too must Turkey recognize the Genocide, for
              which there exists no need for deliberations.

              Regarding the protests that had been organized in Istanbul during his visit,
              noting that the Turkish authorities characterized them as the `actions of
              extremist groups', His Holiness emphasized that in no way did they diminish
              his impressions from the trip. Due to the unprecedented security measures
              which were implemented, they did not obstruct the activities of the
              Pontifical Visit and generally remained unnoticed by the delegation.

              Just before daybreak in Holy Etchmiadzin, as His Holiness concluded his
              remarks, he once again expressed his appreciation to the Armenian Patriarch
              of Constantinople and the faithful people of Istanbul for the warm
              reception, and offered his prayers for the stability and vibrancy of the
              Armenian Patriarchate. The Pontiff of All Armenians also warmly expressed
              his thanks to all those present who had waited all night long to greet him
              upon his return to Armenia.

              The puppet Mesrob is probably glad to see Karekin II leave.
              General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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              • #27
                Originally posted by fatih han
                national struggle personal greed national ?deal nat?onal honour is mature the reason
                Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
                milli mücadelelere ?ahsi h?rs de?il milli ideal milli onur sebep olmu?tur
                C C
                C

                You make absolutely no sense but then again you also make us laugh; and to think, all this time you thought you weren't useful.
                General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by fatih han
                  national struggle personal greed national ıdeal natıonal honour is mature the reason
                  Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
                  milli mücadelelere şahsi hırs değil milli ideal milli onur sebep olmuştur
                  C C
                  C
                  Milli onur soykirimi kabul ederek cok kolay elde edilebilir ve sizi bati dunyasina sherefli bir sekilde sokabilir.


                  Your national honor could easly be established by accepting the Genocide and will allow you to enter the western civilization with honor,
                  "All truth passes through three stages:
                  First, it is ridiculed;
                  Second, it is violently opposed; and
                  Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                  Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Gavur
                    Milli onur soykirimi kabul ederek cok kolay elde edilebilir ve sizi bati dunyasina sherefli bir sekilde sokabilir.


                    Your national honor could easly be established by accepting the Genocide and will allow you to enter the western civilization with honor,

                    Intelligence waved bye-bye to him long ago but Fatty the Khan is slightly entertaining I must admit. Each one of his posts is like a puzzle without a solution and begs the question; is he being profound? or is his just an idiot? I chose the latter but I believe he may have a future in the Turkish MFA.
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by fatih han
                      you armenian ıf you become you don't used to do us the rebellıon you don't used to come to game genocıde you don't used to take off an ımmature one concept but we you any more human beıng see you at fırst open belly satısfy push fellow

                      No Term Genocide in Islam, Erdogan Says
                      29.06.2006 17:49 GMT+04:00
                      /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The matter of respect of religious confession and freedom of expression was discussed at the PACE summer session on June 28. According to the report of PACE Committee on Education, Science and Culture, Finnish MP Snikki Hurskae's report was heard. Following him Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan spoke about religious record, tolerance and freedom of expression in Turkey. Then he answered questions of the MPs. Danish MP Rune Lund accused Turkey in committing the Armenian Genocide, occupying Cyprus and violating rights of Kurds. In response the Turkish PM called him «helpless man, who cannot speak basing himself on historical facts.»

                      Erdogan noted that he supports research of the Genocide by historians and underscored Armenian historians are invited to take part. When asked by a deputy, «why Allah admitted commitment of the genocide, Erdogan noted there is no concept of genocide in Islam and added Allah likes all people created like he does himself.»




                      genocide
                      1. kırım, katliam.
                      "All truth passes through three stages:
                      First, it is ridiculed;
                      Second, it is violently opposed; and
                      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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