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 The Armenian Patriarch of Istanbul is a verbal gymnast.Hehas tobe, to keephis life!
 
  
 
 Mutafyan Disagrees With Catholicos on Genocide Recognition
 
 ISTANBUL (Marmara)The Armenian Patriarch of Istanbul Archbishop Mesrob
 Mutafyan
 told reporters Wednesday that he did not agree with statements made by His
 Holiness Karekin II, the Catholicos of All Armenians regarding the need for
 the
 Turkish recognition of the Armenian Genocide. Mutafyan proposed that the "1915
 issue" be addressed by historians and sociologists in order for the sides to
 "understand each other's sensitivities."
 During a pontifical visit to Istanbul, Catholicos Karekin II said the
 Genocide
 was not a debatable issue for Armenians and it is a fact that Turkey should
 recognize. The Turkish press reacted adversely to this statement, with one
 newspaperthe Hurriyetcharacterizing the Catholicos' visit as a protest
 demonstration.
 Mutafyan said that the Catholicos' statements were not unexpected and since
 his pontifical visit was being covered by the Armenian media and would be seen
 by the Diaspora communities, "the Catholicos spoke taking into consideration
 Diasporan sensitivities."
 
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 In Turkey theres a different definition of hung jury!Originally posted by RUDOGavur bu sözlerimizden dolayı bize de dava açmasın bu Kerinçsiz iti???
 Mob justice."All truth passes through three stages:
 First, it is ridiculed;
 Second, it is violently opposed; and
 Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
 
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 His Holiness Karekin II Completes Pontifical Visit to Istanbul
 
 PRESS RELEASE
 Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin, Information Services
 Address: Vagharshapat, Republic of Armenia
 Contact: Rev. Fr. Ktrij Devejian
 Tel: (374 10) 517 163
 Fax: (374 10) 517 301
 E-Mail: [email protected]
 Website: www.armenianchurch.org
 June 28, 2006
 
 
 
 His Holiness Karekin II, Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of All Armenians,
 having completed his first Pontifical Visit to Istanbul, returned to the
 Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin in the early morning hours of June 28. The
 seven-day visit included a two day fraternal visit to the Ecumenical
 Patriarch, followed by five days with the Armenian community of Istanbul and
 the Armenian Patriarchate of Constantinople.
 
 Although His Holiness' flight arrived in Yerevan in the middle of the night,
 waiting for him in the Mother Cathedral of Holy Etchmiadzin at 4:00 AM, were
 hundreds of faithful who had come to welcome him home. His Holiness'
 procession was escorted into the Mother Cathedral under the singing of the
 `Hrashapar' hymn. Standing before the Holy Altar of Descent, the Catholicos
 of All Armenians offered prayers of thanks to heaven and thereafter conveyed
 the unforgettable and warm impressions from his pontifical visit to all
 those present. His Holiness Karekin II joyfully reflected on the
 enthusiastic reception he received from the Armenian community of Istanbul,
 as expression of their love and devotion to the Holy Armenian Apostolic
 Church and the Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin.
 
 His Holiness stated, `Glory and thanksgiving to God. We return from our
 pontifical visit to our sons and daughters in Constantinople with a content
 heart. Our soul was filled with joy to personally see and meet our faithful
 children, their enthusiastic devoted faith, and their patriotic spirit. We
 communed with 600 years of history and treasures of the Armenian
 Patriarchate of Constantinople.'
 
 The Pontiff of All Armenians stated with contentment that the Armenian
 community of Istanbul, a community that lives, breathes and speaks Armenian,
 is active today with a vibrant national life. The community has 39
 churches, 17 Armenian schools and many institutions, the largest of which is
 the Holy All-Savior National Hospital. His Holiness also fondly recalled
 his meetings with Armenian intellectuals and youth of Istanbul.
 
 As the visit of His Holiness was widely covered by the Armenian and Turkish
 press and media in Turkey, His Holiness spoke of the press conference
 convened in Istanbul on Sunday, June 25, following the Pontifical Divine
 Liturgy, during which the Armenian Genocide was discussed. (The full text
 of the press conference will be available tomorrow on the website of the
 Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin, www.armenianchurch.org). In reply to the
 concerns about the prospect that His Holiness' statements on the Armenian
 Genocide could negatively affect the attitude of the Turkish authorities
 towards the Armenians of Turkey, the Catholicos stated, `We do not believe
 that our thoughts and words can affect the attitude of the authorities
 towards our Armenians in Istanbul, because we never expressed hatred or
 enmity, we simply stated the reality and the truth. Taking into account the
 process of democratization, which the Turkish authorities desire to achieve
 in their country, we also do not believe that extremist nationalistic forces
 will succeed in sowing hatred and enmity toward the Armenians or other
 minorities living in Turkey.'
 
 His Holiness continued, stating that as many countries have recognized the
 Genocide of the Armenians, so too must Turkey recognize the Genocide, for
 which there exists no need for deliberations.
 
 Regarding the protests that had been organized in Istanbul during his visit,
 noting that the Turkish authorities characterized them as the `actions of
 extremist groups', His Holiness emphasized that in no way did they diminish
 his impressions from the trip. Due to the unprecedented security measures
 which were implemented, they did not obstruct the activities of the
 Pontifical Visit and generally remained unnoticed by the delegation.
 
 Just before daybreak in Holy Etchmiadzin, as His Holiness concluded his
 remarks, he once again expressed his appreciation to the Armenian Patriarch
 of Constantinople and the faithful people of Istanbul for the warm
 reception, and offered his prayers for the stability and vibrancy of the
 Armenian Patriarchate. The Pontiff of All Armenians also warmly expressed
 his thanks to all those present who had waited all night long to greet him
 upon his return to Armenia."All truth passes through three stages:
 First, it is ridiculed;
 Second, it is violently opposed; and
 Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
 
 Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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 Originally posted by GavurPRESS RELEASE
 Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin, Information Services
 Address: Vagharshapat, Republic of Armenia
 Contact: Rev. Fr. Ktrij Devejian
 Tel: (374 10) 517 163
 Fax: (374 10) 517 301
 E-Mail: [email protected]
 Website: www.armenianchurch.org
 June 28, 2006
 
 
 
 His Holiness Karekin II, Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of All Armenians,
 having completed his first Pontifical Visit to Istanbul, returned to the
 Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin in the early morning hours of June 28. The
 seven-day visit included a two day fraternal visit to the Ecumenical
 Patriarch, followed by five days with the Armenian community of Istanbul and
 the Armenian Patriarchate of Constantinople.
 
 Although His Holiness' flight arrived in Yerevan in the middle of the night,
 waiting for him in the Mother Cathedral of Holy Etchmiadzin at 4:00 AM, were
 hundreds of faithful who had come to welcome him home. His Holiness'
 procession was escorted into the Mother Cathedral under the singing of the
 `Hrashapar' hymn. Standing before the Holy Altar of Descent, the Catholicos
 of All Armenians offered prayers of thanks to heaven and thereafter conveyed
 the unforgettable and warm impressions from his pontifical visit to all
 those present. His Holiness Karekin II joyfully reflected on the
 enthusiastic reception he received from the Armenian community of Istanbul,
 as expression of their love and devotion to the Holy Armenian Apostolic
 Church and the Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin.
 
 His Holiness stated, `Glory and thanksgiving to God. We return from our
 pontifical visit to our sons and daughters in Constantinople with a content
 heart. Our soul was filled with joy to personally see and meet our faithful
 children, their enthusiastic devoted faith, and their patriotic spirit. We
 communed with 600 years of history and treasures of the Armenian
 Patriarchate of Constantinople.'
 
 The Pontiff of All Armenians stated with contentment that the Armenian
 community of Istanbul, a community that lives, breathes and speaks Armenian,
 is active today with a vibrant national life. The community has 39
 churches, 17 Armenian schools and many institutions, the largest of which is
 the Holy All-Savior National Hospital. His Holiness also fondly recalled
 his meetings with Armenian intellectuals and youth of Istanbul.
 
 As the visit of His Holiness was widely covered by the Armenian and Turkish
 press and media in Turkey, His Holiness spoke of the press conference
 convened in Istanbul on Sunday, June 25, following the Pontifical Divine
 Liturgy, during which the Armenian Genocide was discussed. (The full text
 of the press conference will be available tomorrow on the website of the
 Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin, www.armenianchurch.org). In reply to the
 concerns about the prospect that His Holiness' statements on the Armenian
 Genocide could negatively affect the attitude of the Turkish authorities
 towards the Armenians of Turkey, the Catholicos stated, `We do not believe
 that our thoughts and words can affect the attitude of the authorities
 towards our Armenians in Istanbul, because we never expressed hatred or
 enmity, we simply stated the reality and the truth. Taking into account the
 process of democratization, which the Turkish authorities desire to achieve
 in their country, we also do not believe that extremist nationalistic forces
 will succeed in sowing hatred and enmity toward the Armenians or other
 minorities living in Turkey.'
 
 His Holiness continued, stating that as many countries have recognized the
 Genocide of the Armenians, so too must Turkey recognize the Genocide, for
 which there exists no need for deliberations.
 
 Regarding the protests that had been organized in Istanbul during his visit,
 noting that the Turkish authorities characterized them as the `actions of
 extremist groups', His Holiness emphasized that in no way did they diminish
 his impressions from the trip. Due to the unprecedented security measures
 which were implemented, they did not obstruct the activities of the
 Pontifical Visit and generally remained unnoticed by the delegation.
 
 Just before daybreak in Holy Etchmiadzin, as His Holiness concluded his
 remarks, he once again expressed his appreciation to the Armenian Patriarch
 of Constantinople and the faithful people of Istanbul for the warm
 reception, and offered his prayers for the stability and vibrancy of the
 Armenian Patriarchate. The Pontiff of All Armenians also warmly expressed
 his thanks to all those present who had waited all night long to greet him
 upon his return to Armenia.
 The puppet Mesrob is probably glad to see Karekin II leave.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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 Originally posted by fatih hannational struggle personal greed national ?deal nat?onal honour is mature the reason
 Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
 milli mücadelelere ?ahsi h?rs de?il milli ideal milli onur sebep olmu?tur
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 You make absolutely no sense but then again you also make us laugh; and to think, all this time you thought you weren't useful.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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 Milli onur soykirimi kabul ederek cok kolay elde edilebilir ve sizi bati dunyasina sherefli bir sekilde sokabilir.Originally posted by fatih hannational struggle personal greed national ıdeal natıonal honour is mature the reason
 Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
 milli mücadelelere şahsi hırs değil milli ideal milli onur sebep olmuştur
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 Your national honor could easly be established by accepting the Genocide and will allow you to enter the western civilization with honor,"All truth passes through three stages:
 First, it is ridiculed;
 Second, it is violently opposed; and
 Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
 
 Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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 Originally posted by GavurMilli onur soykirimi kabul ederek cok kolay elde edilebilir ve sizi bati dunyasina sherefli bir sekilde sokabilir.
 
 
 Your national honor could easly be established by accepting the Genocide and will allow you to enter the western civilization with honor,
 Intelligence waved bye-bye to him long ago but Fatty the Khan is slightly entertaining I must admit. Each one of his posts is like a puzzle without a solution and begs the question; is he being profound? or is his just an idiot? I chose the latter but I believe he may have a future in the Turkish MFA.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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 Originally posted by fatih hanyou armenian ıf you become you don't used to do us the rebellıon you don't used to come to game genocıde you don't used to take off an ımmature one concept but we you any more human beıng see you at fırst open belly satısfy push fellow
 No Term Genocide in Islam, Erdogan Says
 29.06.2006 17:49 GMT+04:00
 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The matter of respect of religious confession and freedom of expression was discussed at the PACE summer session on June 28. According to the report of PACE Committee on Education, Science and Culture, Finnish MP Snikki Hurskae's report was heard. Following him Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan spoke about religious record, tolerance and freedom of expression in Turkey. Then he answered questions of the MPs. Danish MP Rune Lund accused Turkey in committing the Armenian Genocide, occupying Cyprus and violating rights of Kurds. In response the Turkish PM called him «helpless man, who cannot speak basing himself on historical facts.»
 
 Erdogan noted that he supports research of the Genocide by historians and underscored Armenian historians are invited to take part. When asked by a deputy, «why Allah admitted commitment of the genocide, Erdogan noted there is no concept of genocide in Islam and added Allah likes all people created like he does himself.»
 
 
  
 
 genocide
 1. kırım, katliam.
 "All truth passes through three stages:
 First, it is ridiculed;
 Second, it is violently opposed; and
 Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
 
 Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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