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  • Istanbul to welcome head of Armenian church

    06/20/2006


    Istanbul to welcome head of Armenian churchKarekin II, whose official title is Catholicos of All Armenians, has issued statements saying Turks committed gen...

    Karekin II, whose official title is Catholicos of All Armenians, has issued statements saying Turks committed genocide against Armenians around the time of World War I. Turkish nationalist protests during his visit are likely.



    Karekin's official title is Catholicos of All Armenians


    Turkey has no relations with Armenia, and vehemently denies that Turks committed genocide, saying Armenians who lived under the Ottoman Empire were killed in internal fighting among ethnic groups as the empire collapsed, the AP reports.
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

  • #2
    Armenian Spiritual Leader in Istanbul

    By Zaman, Istanbul
    Published: Wednesday, June 21, 2006
    zaman.com


    Head of the Armenian Apostolic Church, Karekin II, came to Istanbul Tuesday as a guest of Turkey’s Armenians Patriarch Mesrop II and Greek Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew.




    Karekin II, welcomed by Bartholomew, will hold week-long meetings with several leaders.


    Karekin II, who traveled from Erivan on Armenian Airlines, was expected to leave the airport via the VIP Hall at Istanbul’s Ataturk Airport, but left instead in a vehicle convoy for security reasons.


    A crowd of nearly 50 gathered at the airport protested the arrival of Karekin II.




    Istanbul: Supreme Armenian Patriarch, Karekin II, protested in Istanbul
    21 June 2006
    11:02
    The arrival of His Holiness Karekin II, Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of all Armenians, was protested in the Turkish city of Istanbul on Tuesday night at 22:30 (2030 GMT). One group of protesters at Ataturk airport even threw eggs at a limousine thought to have belonged to Karekin II.


    Gav.Turns out the staged extracating was against the wind.
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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    • #3
      Benedict XVI sends representative delegation to religious summit in Moscow

      16 June 2006, 14:05


      Moscow, June 16, Interfax - Over ten high-ranking Catholic clergy will come from the Vatican to Moscow for the World Summit of Religious Leaders due early in July, Interfax was informed by the Moscow Patriarchate Department for External Church Relations (DECR).

      Among the participants in the forum are heads of the Pontifical Councils for Promoting Christian Unity and for Culture, Cardinals Walter Kasper and Paul Poupard, Cardinal Roger Etchegaray, Cardinal Gortfried Martins the Archbishop of Mechelen-Brussels, Cardinal Theodore MacCarick the Archbishop of Washington, Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin, Archbishop Sigitas Tamkevicius of Kaunas, Bishop Joseph Vert, head of the Conference of Catholic Bishops in Russia, Bishop Vincenzo Paglia, spiritual director of St. Egidio Community, and others.

      'We have sent Pope Benedict XVI an official letter asking to send an authoritative delegation to the Moscow summit and met with his full understanding', noted Rev. Igor Vyzhanov, DECR secretary for inter-Christian relations.

      He also said the World Summit of Religious Leaders will be attended by the head of the Council of the Evangelical Church in Germany, Bishop Wolfgang Huber, the head of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Finland, Archbishop Jukka Paarma, World Council of Churches secretary general Samuel Kobia, Conference of European Church general secretary Colin Williams, and Bishop Richard Chartres of London.




      Among Christian delegates from the far abroad, there will be primates of the Oriental Churches including the Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of All Armenian Karekin II, Patriarch Abuna Paul of Ethiopia, and head of the Coptic Church Shenouda III.

      The World Summit of Religious Leaders will take place from July 3 to 5 in Moscow at the initiative of Patriarch Alexy II of Moscow and All Russia. Russian President Vladimir Putin has supported this idea. The Interrelligious Council in Russia is the organizer of the forum.
      "All truth passes through three stages:
      First, it is ridiculed;
      Second, it is violently opposed; and
      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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      • #4
        head of Armenian church is always welcome to my country gavur... dont you know turkish hospitality?

        turkey does not have any relation with armania but that does not mean we wont have in the future . this generation that you have need to be perished I suppose. I believe , your next genaration will make good connection with us.

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        • #5
          Good to know you and some Turks are still sane.
          But something has to be done about the rabid so-called extreemnationalists



          "All truth passes through three stages:
          First, it is ridiculed;
          Second, it is violently opposed; and
          Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

          Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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          • #6
            oh come on gavur... arent you extreme nationalists mate? you dont have any right to criticise them. only joseph and hovik can criticise .. thanks hovik not kicking me out from the form...

            really with my sincere feeling, you are always welcome to turkey..

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gavur
              Good to know you and some Turks are still sane.
              But something has to be done about the rabid so-called extreemnationalists
              It will take many generations before Armenians can view Turks/ Turkey with anything more than disgust; at most some Armenians may become magnanimous towards the Turks but that's even a stretch. It would be very hard to ever forgive or forget what the Turks did, especially when there is state-sponsored denial and the continued charade of the reverse-genocide theory. Asking Armenians to forgive and forget is more than any other people could bear.
              General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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              • #8
                I am extreme towards any denialists including your govermat!
                otherwise I am extremely against any so-called Ultranationalist.
                Read my posts.
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gavur
                  I am extreme towards any denialists including your govermat!
                  otherwise I am extremely against any so-called Ultranationalist.
                  Read my posts.
                  I tend to agree. I'm not beholden to ultra-nationalists or facism but it just seems to me that facism is the driving force behind the Turkish government and many of its actions. You don't have to be Armenian, Greek, Assyrian, or Kurdish to come to that realization.
                  General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                  • #10
                    Istanbul: Karekin II, Supreme Patriarch visits Spiritual Leader Barthelemeos





                    21 June 2006
                    23:50
                    Holiness Karekin II, Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of all Armenians paid a returning visit to Orthodox Spiritual Leader Barthelemeos in Istanbul on Wednesday.

                    "All truth passes through three stages:
                    First, it is ridiculed;
                    Second, it is violently opposed; and
                    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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