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  • British Government Explicitly Denies The Armenian Genocide in Response to E-Petition

    British Government Explicitly Denies The Armenian Genocide in Response
    to E-petition

    Armenian News Network / Groong
    December 9, 2007

    By Kevork Oskanian

    LONDON, ENGLAND

    The following is the official response by the government of the United
    Kingdom to a petition urging it to recognise the Armenian Genocide of
    1915, as posted on 7 december 2007 at
    http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page13999.asp :

    "The British Government acknowledges and regrets the terrible events
    that afflicted the Ottoman Armenian population at the beginning of the
    last century, when over a million ethnic Armenian citizens of the
    Ottoman Empire were killed. Many were massacred; some were victims of
    civil strife, starvation and disease, which ravaged the whole population
    of Eastern Anatolia during the First World War.

    The massacres were an appalling tragedy, which the British Government of
    the day condemned. We fully endorse that view. However, neither this
    Government nor previous British Governments have judged that the
    evidence is sufficiently unequivocal to persuade us that these events
    should be categorised as genocide as defined by the 1948 UN Convention
    on Genocide, a convention which is, in any event, not retrospective in
    application.

    The British Government believes that the focus should be on ensuring a
    progressive approach; to improve the chances for reconciliation between
    Armenian and Turkish people and to achieve a peaceful and secure future
    for everyone living in the region. To this end we encourage the
    Governments of Armenia and Turkey to improve co-operation, economic
    development and understanding between their countries.

    In preparing for EU accession, Turkey must demonstrate its commitment to
    good neighbourly relations and must have undertaken to resolve
    outstanding border disputes. The advancement of accession negotiations
    will be guided by progress made in these, and other areas."

    The Petition:
    http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/armeniangenocide/

    http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg213676.html

  • #2
    The jerk(s) who initiated this petition are as big a bunch of idiots as those who answered it (and at least the latter group have the excuse of also being a bunch of lying, self-seeking fools).
    The "British government" (whatever that really means) ignored the physical petition of 1 million people marching through the streets of London against the Bush/Blair war in Iraq - so why would anyone but some egotistical cretin think they would respond to a few Armenians and their little online petition. Same with the people who are still going on and on (and endlessly, endlessly, boringly on, year after year after year) with their sad little recognition bill in America. Pathetic.

    And how the Turks must laugh - "see", they can now claim, "the British Government has categorically stated that it wasn't genocide".
    Plenipotentiary meow!

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    • #3
      Bell makes a good point. The British Government, much like the US will never change its position because they have nothing to gain (or until they have something to gain) by doing so, are stubborn and just plain do not care about the issue and would like to see it go away. In the case of Britain, they want Turkey in the EU if for no other reason than to speed up the dissolution of the organization so having the Armenian Genocide on the agenda hurts their interests (this is what is believed). If Armenia had oil, this might be different of course.

      Armenians should continue with their activism, exposure of the truth, research, and building important alliances. To try and counter act the Turks through petitions will not work. The sheer numbers of Turks worldwide will make any action worthless. We have essentially won in the arena of truth but must continue collecting smaller victories that will eventually snowball into total recognition. Our collective strategies must be well-thought out and executed not rely on petty and isolated events such as the position noted above. It was a nice try by an Armenian activist but Armenians are sometimes their own worst enemies.
      General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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      • #4
        Thanks guys !

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Joseph View Post
          Bell makes a good point. The British Government, much like the US will never change its position because they have nothing to gain (or until they have something to gain) by doing so, are stubborn and just plain do not care about the issue and would like to see it go away. In the case of Britain, they want Turkey in the EU if for no other reason than to speed up the dissolution of the organization so having the Armenian Genocide on the agenda hurts their interests (this is what is believed). If Armenia had oil, this might be different of course.

          Armenians should continue with their activism, exposure of the truth, research, and building important alliances. To try and counter act the Turks through petitions will not work. The sheer numbers of Turks worldwide will make any action worthless. We have essentially won in the arena of truth but must continue collecting smaller victories that will eventually snowball into total recognition. Our collective strategies must be well-thought out and executed not rely on petty and isolated events such as the position noted above. It was a nice try by an Armenian activist but Armenians are sometimes their own worst enemies.
          I see you have done a bit of censoring, Joseph
          Probably right to have done so. If my language and tone is sometimes a little harsh (and sometimes more than a little) it is only because it is very annoying to see the same mistakes being made again and again and again.
          Plenipotentiary meow!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
            I see you have done a bit of censoring, Joseph
            Probably right to have done so. If my language and tone is sometimes a little harsh (and sometimes more than a little) it is only because it is very annoying to see the same mistakes being made again and again and again.
            But we can see the uncensored version in the quote box above Joseph's post!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by chinchilla View Post
              But we can see the uncensored version in the quote box above Joseph's post!
              Which continues to deny younger people from viewing what should be a decent site. Other sites are available for that type of language.
              Grow up !

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                I see you have done a bit of censoring, Joseph
                Probably right to have done so. If my language and tone is sometimes a little harsh (and sometimes more than a little) it is only because it is very annoying to see the same mistakes being made again and again and again.
                Thanks for understanding. I changed a couple of your adjectives but the full extent of you idea persists.
                General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by chinchilla View Post
                  But we can see the uncensored version in the quote box above Joseph's post!
                  Oops. Just changed that.
                  General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by steph View Post
                    Which continues to deny younger people from viewing what should be a decent site. Other sites are available for that type of language.
                    Grow up !
                    Sorry about leaving the bad language when I quoted Bell. That has been adjusted.
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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