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  • #1

    Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

    Watch this video I found on U Tube.

    http://tr.youtube.com/watch?v=UxhzzwYy8bk&feature=related


    Basically highlights the fact Obama will betray his promise over recognizing the genocide in favor of better US-Turkey relations.

    I am not surprised however since I read an article from Robert Fisk that said that Obama would betray his promise:

    Just a moment...
    http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/20079


    Bill Clinton promised Armenians he'd call it a "genocide" if they helped to elect him to office. George Bush did the same. So did Obama. The first two broke their word and resorted to "tragedy" rather than "genocide" once they'd got the votes, because they were frightened of all those bellowing Turkish generals, not to mention - in Bush's case - the US military supply routes through Turkey, the "roads and so on" as Robert Gates called them in one of history's more gripping ironies, these being the same "roads and so on" upon which the Armenians were sent on their death marches in 1915. And Mr Gates will be there to remind Obama of this. So I bet you - I absolutely bet on the family cat - that Obama is going to find that "genocide" is "tragedy" by 24 April.

    ^Robert Fisk is right...yet again!
    Last edited by hipeter924; 04-10-2009, 07:20 PM. Reason: Edited in a better link,etc
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    Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

    While Samantha Power, an Obama appointee, is inside the National Security Council, you can't say for certain what will happen.

    Take a look at this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yNt7XsV-Dg

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    • #3
      Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

      It does not matter whether or not the Obama camp has has a few high profile Pro-Armenian genocide recognition supporters, at the end of the day if Obama doesn't support the bill through congress it will fail.

      If Obama has refused to call the Armenian Genocide a genocide on April 24th, the bill will fail. Wait for the next president, this guy won't do anything.

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      • #4
        Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

        And to think all the Armenians voted for him thinking he was going to pass it as genocide, HAHA. Way too funny.

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          Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

          Obama now is playing politics with the turks as he needs the turks to make peace with the Arab world. He knows that the Arab world listens to turkey, and Obama feels that since Bush demolished the connection with the muslems, he feels that he needs turkey to connect with them. To the turkish congress when he spoke for about half an hour, the closest thing he came close to our Genocide cause is when he said that, when countries have sad and bad pasts they must come out admitting it to free their burden from their shoulders and by doing it will feel better. He said that America had the slavery past and that they massacred the Indians; and he said that the massacres of the Armenians from 1915 through 1923 are those sad and unhappy pasts implying to the turks massacring Armenians. But he said it very diplomatically and he didn't mention the word Genocide. He was kissing the turks and he was carefully wording his words and with diplomacy. He also said that he wishes that Armenians and the turks will have a friendly dialogue with each other and the borders will be open with Armenia, and also that the Nagorno-Karabakh/Artsakh conflict would be resolved already.

          When it comes to our cause and the Genocide acceptance time, America has issues to be resolved and politics to play. It's always the same story, it never changes.

          On the other hand, Obama wants to play politics with the Arabs; but the Arabs and the Israelis' animosity will not resolve in a hundred years, they both hate each other and are very vengeful towards one another.
          Last edited by Anoush; 04-12-2009, 04:17 PM.

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            Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

            Originally posted by iFemale View Post
            And to think all the Armenians voted for him thinking he was going to pass it as genocide, HAHA. Way too funny.
            Actually. if you remember:both candit's recognized the mass ethnic cleansing and making Armenians Turk and confiscating everything as (in lack of a even stronger descriptive) "Genocide".
            "All truth passes through three stages:
            First, it is ridiculed;
            Second, it is violently opposed; and
            Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

            Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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            • #7
              Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

              Originally posted by Anoush View Post
              Obama now is playing politics with the turks as he needs the turks to make peace with the Arab world. He knows that the Arab world listens to turkey, and Obama feels that since Bush demolished the connection with the muslems, he feels that he needs turkey to connect with them. To the turkish congress when he spoke for about half an hour, the closest thing he came close to our Genocide cause is when he said that, when countries have sad and bad pasts they must come out admitting it to free their burden from their shoulders and by doing it will feel better. He said that America had the slavery past and that they massacred the Indians; and he said that the massacres of the Armenians from 1915 through 1923 are those sad and unhappy pasts implying to the turks massacring Armenians. But he said it very diplomatically and he didn't mention the word Genocide. He was kissing the turks and he was carefully wording his words and with diplomacy. He also said that he wishes that Armenians and the turks will have a friendly dialogue with each other and the borders will be open with Armenia, and also that the Nagorno-Karabakh/Artsakh conflict would be resolved already.

              When it comes to our cause and the Genocide acceptance time, America has issues to be resolved and politics to play. It's always the same story, it never changes.

              On the other hand, Obama wants to play politics with the Arabs; but the Arabs and the Israelis' animosity will not resolve in a hundred years, they both hate each other and are very vengeful towards one another.
              I thought Obama in his speeches in Turkey was very courages and sincere.There it is , and he put the ball in the Turkish hands it's their move.
              But lets not make a judgment on Obamas character just yet.He looks like a man who finishes what he starts.
              "All truth passes through three stages:
              First, it is ridiculed;
              Second, it is violently opposed; and
              Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

              Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

                Originally posted by Gavur View Post
                I thought Obama in his speeches in Turkey was very courages and sincere.There it is , and he put the ball in the Turkish hands it's their move.
                But lets not make a judgment on Obamas character just yet.He looks like a man who finishes what he starts.
                Initially I thought so also and I am not exactly making a total judgement on his character yet; but in Obama's eyes things are tough for his country to mend matters with the Arab world after Bush demolished it. However you may call it courageous the way he spoke in the turkish parliament, it's true no other US president spoke as much as Obama did; but he was nonetheless reluctant to use the word Genocide. Things are also complicated for him as turkey stands in between the Arab world and himself and the Arabs do listen to the turks. Therefore Obama knowing this he worded his words with the utmost diplomacy, however most Armenians supported and voted for him because he promised a Genocide recognition, we musn't let him forget his promise to us.

                We as a nation have been waiting for the Genocide recognition for 94 years and it is justified for us when the turks uprooted us and murdered us practically a whole nation from the face of the earth. It is only just for a supposedly a democratic country as the United States to recognize such horrificly sad past as were the fate of the Armenians with the right word "Genocide".
                Last edited by Anoush; 04-14-2009, 05:24 AM.

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                • #9
                  Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

                  I heard somewhere that once a 100 years pass we can't do anything about the Genocide.

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                    Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

                    Originally posted by Sero View Post
                    I heard somewhere that once a 100 years pass we can't do anything about the Genocide.
                    I wonder who started this bizarre rumour, it's not the first time I hear this. Crime does not expire.
                    Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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