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  • #31
    Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

    Originally posted by CRDA-France View Post
    Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide ? Really ? Then inform the African American community about these following points:

    - It is as if it would be said that Middle Passage was a second class voyage and slavery was an employment contract. Genocide and its denial are the ultimate phases of racism.

    - Today gun traders are slave traders of yesterday.

    - Thus at present, the heirs of slave trade companies and ship owners, as the other heirs such as insurers, bankers, stockholders of that time, do not miss to trade with Turkey, always in denial about the Armenian Genocide, calling it "a strategic key ally".

    My article : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...dmemories0.htm

    US African Americans And Armenians : Shared Memories - Compared Genocidal Sructures
    ADIC - XII - African Americans / Armenians : Shared Memories - Compared Genocidal Structures.
    http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/0en/cblacks_armenians/0home_c.htm


    Nil (Paris, France)
    #455
    That still ignores the point...it doesn't matter how much support or demands are made the fact is that Obama is being seduced (though you can put it better) by the Turkish government to back down from his promise (and not personally support a Genocide recognition bill through congress) through Turkish threats to not co-operate with the US.

    Sure he may say privately he believes the Genocide occured...but if he refuses to say so publicly on April the 24th then what do you think will happen when a bill is put through to recognise the genocide...my bet...Obama will "let congress decide".

    Read this from cbs:
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    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/04/06/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4922699.shtml


    Here is another article from fox news:
    Politics | Fox News
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/06/obama-declines-killings-armenians-genocide-despite-tough-stance-candidate/
    Presidential politics and political news from foxnews.com. News about political parties, political campaigns, world and international politics, politics news headlines plus in-depth features and video clips.


    I agree wait and see, but politicians are politicians...but I think the Obama admin... will hold off recognition as long as possible, perhaps not recognize it all.
    Last edited by hipeter924; 04-16-2009, 05:06 PM.

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    • #32
      Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

      Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
      BTW, anybody know the best route to the nearest Baboon Airbase from Artsakh, just in case?
      Just follow the laser down!

      Eddo jan, seriously now, will you go?
      I know I'll be there.

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      • #33
        Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

        Originally posted by hrai View Post
        Just follow the laser down!

        Eddo jan, seriously now, will you go?
        I know I'll be there.

        Please don’t ask me why hrai but I have no choice. I must go
        B0zkurt Hunter

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        • #34
          Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

          Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
          Please don’t ask me why hrai but I have no choice. I must go
          apre eddo!

          No whys needed.

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          • #35
            Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

            Go where?

            Marching?

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            • #36
              Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

              Richard Hovhannisyan expects a harsh speech without the word genocide

              22.04.2009 18:06

              Nvard Davtyan
              “Radiolur”

              UCLA Professor Richard Hovhannisyan told a press conference today that like the previous years, the pressure on the President of the United States has considerably grown in April. He hopes Barack Obama will fulfill his pre-election pledge and will come forth with a stronger speech on April 24.

              Richard Hovhannisyan does not doubt that the pressures from the Pentagon, Turkey and Armenia have increased ahead of April 24. The Turkish Government now understands that the dialogue with Armenia may be endangered if the US recognizes the Armenian Genocide. On the other hand, Turkey applies an economic pressure: Turkey is a large consumer of American weapons. There is also the factor of Iraq. Turkey may refuse to provide its airspace to American planes.

              “Turkey is very flexible. It can declare any moment that it’s a member of the Islamic, Asian or African world, or it can declare it belongs to Europe. They have an easy way to escape, saying that they wanted to normalize the relations, but Armenians did not make any concessions. This is a primitive policy, but sometimes it works," Richard Hovhannisyan said.

              The Professor does not understand or is not aware of Armenia’s policy in its relations with Turkey. According to him, the Armenian President’s initiative of inviting the Turkish President to Armenia was a daring and amazing step, but he would like to see a program behind it. “I don’t know about the secret programs, but I hope they exist. We often start on a journey without programs. For example, let’s say Turkey recognizes the genocide. What are we going to demand afterwards? Some Armenians say let Turkey simply accept the history, others speak about the return of the lands of their ancestors. We have no common national plan.”

              Professor Hovhannisyan hopes that on April 24 the US President will fulfill the promise to Armenians. “If Obama uttered the word genocide, it would be a great moral victory for Armenia. It would pave the way for many countries to recognize the genocide, thus increasing the pressure on Turkey,” Mr. Hovhannisyan said.

              The historian disagrees with the opinion that the recognition of the Armenian Genocide by Obama will mean the end of the Armenian Diaspora. On the contrary, the human and financial potential will be directed towards the development of the Armenian culture. “We cannot live only morning the crimes of the past,” the historian says.

              “Even if Obama fails to recognize the genocide on April 24, it won’t be a tragedy. We have struggled for years and we will continue the struggle. At last, the historical fact has already been proven. The problem is only a political one,” Richard Hovhannisyan concluded.

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              http://www.armradio.am/news/?part=pol&id=14829
              Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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              • #37
                Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

                Originally posted by Federate View Post
                Richard Hovhannisyan expects a harsh speech without the word genocide

                22.04.2009 18:06

                Nvard Davtyan
                “Radiolur”
                ...

                The historian disagrees with the opinion that the recognition of the Armenian Genocide by Obama will mean the end of the Armenian Diaspora. On the contrary, the human and financial potential will be directed towards the development of the Armenian culture. “We cannot live only morning [sic] the crimes of the past,” the historian says.

                ...

                http://www.armradio.am/news/?part=pol&id=14829
                Ugh... I am the spelling nazi. :-/
                [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
                -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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                • #38
                  Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

                  I don't know why anyone is suprised by Obamas' neglect to honor this pre election promise or by any other past presidents neglect to do so. The US is never going to enforce any sort of sanction or restriction upon the Turkish Government in regard to the Armenian Genocide. I think that it is foolishness to ever expect this to happen.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

                    I would gladly take the risk appearing foolish a thousand times over before I give in to synicism.
                    "All truth passes through three stages:
                    First, it is ridiculed;
                    Second, it is violently opposed; and
                    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                    • #40
                      Re: Obama refuses to Call Armenian Genocide a Genocide

                      Originally posted by Gavur View Post
                      I would gladly take the risk appearing foolish a thousand times over before I give in to synicism.
                      It's an interesting point of view.

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