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Erdogan Finally Admits Turkey Practiced Ethnic Cleansing
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Few will search through a mountain of trash to find the one valuable item.
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Originally posted by Kiffer View Post-------------------------------------------------------------
Not only the Turkish Government, but all the countries do the same thing, look at England, France and above all
Germany during the génocide. And even the US. They all
shut their eyes, they had all the letters from diplomats,
but they did not do anything.
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Originally posted by Joseph View PostDuring the war, the Armenians were first expelled from Shahumian, Shushi, Hadrut, and sections of Martuni. When the Armenian forces went on the offensive they retook most or parts of those regions, the Azeri population followed the retreating Azeri forces. Later, the Armenians would indeed take over Azeri regions outside of the NKR where again the Azeri population followed their retreating army. The Azeri citizens were geneally not forced to go and in some cases, the Azeri troops fled well-before the civilian population could organize a retreat. They were not slaughtered, molested, harrassed.
The only known case of Azeri civilians having suffered a massacre was at Khodjali. This massacre was conducted by the Soviet 366th Mechanized Regiment { Soviet troops were still stationed in the region at this time}. Why? A day before the Azeris launched an artillery barrage from the Khodjali Airport into the Soviet baracks outiside of Stepanakert and hit the mess hall during lunchtime. Several soldiers were killed and one of their most beloved officers was among the dead.
The Armenian forces did have the town surrounded from three sides, to the north, west, and south with a corridor left open to the east so the Azeri civilians could flee. The Armenians were certainly going to attack at some point. Instead, most of the Soviet 366th crossed over the Armenian lines and at nightfall and attacked the Azeri defenses, the Azeri forces retreated all the way to Aghdam. The 366th then massacred several hundred Azeri civilians. A portion of the Azeri civilians were accidentally shot by the Azeri forces stationed to the east outside of Aghdam. It was nighttime and they were mistaken for Russian troops.
Thomas Goltz was one of the first to report on Khodjali. He created he myth of Armenians committing a full-scale massacre of Azeri civilians. He would refute this later in an article called "Russian Hidden Hand" in 1994.
The 366th Regiment would be evacuated very soon after. Some of their troops would stay on and fight for the Armenians. The 366th would be active later in Chechnya and in 1995 committed a similar massacre of Chechen civilians at Samashki.There seem to be numerous versions, each claiming to tell what actually happened.
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Originally posted by Saco View PostAnd thanks for the history Joseph. I doubt Palavra is going to go through it though!
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Originally posted by Eddo211 View PostSomehow the way you present the facts hit deep in what I consider 'the Armenian heart'
It takes one to know one!!
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Any kind of discussion can only come with the repeal of 'insulting turkishness'.
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I've met and spoken to some educated Turks who think like Firat.... so just because many of the ones on the internet are a pain in the Sultan's behind doesn't mean that they are all incapable of independent thought. As Eddo said, Turkishness is what makes the citizens so loyal to the state. I find it a lot like someone who attends a state college/university in the US. How many Americans associate their identity with which school they attended? I know I've met many that spit out where they went to school nearly every other sentence, lol.
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Originally posted by Palavra View PostMy trueself? you guys are realy hopeless..
No. I am dreaming. That is why all azeris home under armenian occupation is empty..
You are denying ethnic cleansing. So You are guilty from ethnic cleansing.
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