Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....

[melikianAvak]

Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....

Well I would like to meet some of Armenians in Turkey but I think they might think of me another murderer,since Hrant Dink was killed.And they are really hidden.

Is it allowed for non-christians to visit Armenian churches?

Armenians don't have a problem with it. It is God’s house and everyone who comes in peace is welcome. God does not teach or condone hatred, he is a loving and peaceful God.

I have read that the Turkish government has sent letters to the churches saying that they are violating the law by allowing Muslims to enter. Try it and let us know.

Armenians pretty much are the same whether they are in Armenia, Turkey or Diaspora. Some people think it is the Diaspora Armenians that are a problem, this is very untrue. We do not hate good Turks, only fascists.

Avak

[Kuja]

Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....

Kuja, do you think killing Hrant Dink was a very horrible thing?

By the way, as far as visiting ancient Armenian Churches in Turkey, you might want to hurry up and visit them as the Turkish government has been systematically destroying them one by one.

Of course Hrant Dink's murder is horrible in every aspect.It is not only horrible humanically but also it was a great blow for already-terrible Armenian-Turkish relations.I believe he was a model for Armenians and Turks.

As for churches,I meant the ones in use,not the ancient ones.

[Esther]

Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....

Kuja, do you think killing Hrant Dink was a very horrible thing?

By the way, as far as visiting ancient Armenian Churches in Turkey, you might want to hurry up and visit them as the Turkish government has been systematically destroying them one by one.

yeah, or they are turning them into mosques... But it's good to know that you are actually interested in visiting them...

[Sip]

Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....

Kuja, do you think killing Hrant Dink was a very horrible thing?

By the way, as far as visiting ancient Armenian Churches in Turkey, you might want to hurry up and visit them as the Turkish government has been systematically destroying them one by one.

[Kuja]

Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....

Well I would like to meet some of Armenians in Turkey but I think they might think of me another murderer,since Hrant Dink was killed.And they are really hidden.

Is it allowed for non-christians to visit Armenian churches?

[Էլիա]

Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....

We can not find a "solution" to anything at an internet forum. Only thing we can do is to be at least polite to eachother which I do not see the trace here.

I do not see a group of people that put another nation to the center of their lifes before. It is not only absurd but also miserable. When you insult Turks at your every posts you also proove this Turcocentrism every time.

I just wanted to "chat" about some issues, critisize both Turkey and diaspora and make a mature dialogue. But I thing that I am at the wrong place. Anyway, have a nice weekend all!!!

Whatever, Mahir Jr.

[exfo]

Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....

We can not find a "solution" to anything at an internet forum. Only thing we can do is to be at least polite to eachother which I do not see the trace here.

I do not see a group of people that put another nation to the center of their lifes before. It is not only absurd but also miserable. When you insult Turks at your every posts you also proove this Turcocentrism every time.

I just wanted to "chat" about some issues, critisize both Turkey and diaspora and make a mature dialogue. But I thing that I am at the wrong place. Anyway, have a nice weekend all!!!

[Էլիա]

Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....

I was writing an answer to you about the situation in Turkey and how can we find a solution, etc. But my laptop is locked, then I read your other posts and gave up to re-write. You try your best to become a mature person but you are still at the same league with Siamanto, Shkara and others. No need to waste more time with you. Actually I do not want to continue anything with you, it is just wasting time. So please no not provoke me by your insults and lets finish the dialogue here. Ok? Have a nice day...

I wasn't insulting you! I was just telling everyone to stop insulting everyone else! I am not being immature, I just want to try to figure out a solution!

[Esther]

Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....

Esther, as a reasonable person I want to talk with you. Becasue it is really necessary of the behaviour of Armenian (or lets say diaspora Armenian) people toward Turks. Why? Answer is simple. Regardless of all idiotic nationalistic behaviours of Turkish government on Armenian case, one of the most important fact that make this problem unsolved is this behaviour of diasporans towards Turks (or lets sat "Turk" notion)
We protest and struggle on the oppressions of Turkish government on all minorities including Armenians, but it is not easy when diaspora terrorise everything about Turks-Armenians discussions. This is not about the genocide discussion and one hatred doesnt justify other hatred and make everything worse.

Actually I was talking about the Armenians in Armenia and their behaviour towards Turkish people living in Armenia
I don't know why you dramatize everything...

[exfo]

Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....

Which isn't really surprising, think about it!^^ You wouldn't be nice to someone who harms you in many ways. You can't compare the turkish "hatred" from the past, which, sorry but I have to repeat it again, was not justified and the Armenian "hatred" which is not only based on historical facts but on things which still happen today.
I don't think it's necessary to talk about the behaviour of the Armenian people toward Turks.

Esther, as a reasonable person I want to talk with you. Becasue it is really necessary of the behaviour of Armenian (or lets say diaspora Armenian) people toward Turks. Why? Answer is simple. Regardless of all idiotic nationalistic behaviours of Turkish government on Armenian case, one of the most important fact that make this problem unsolved is this behaviour of diasporans towards Turks (or lets sat "Turk" notion)
We protest and struggle on the oppressions of Turkish government on all minorities including Armenians, but it is not easy when diaspora terrorise everything about Turks-Armenians discussions. This is not about the genocide discussion and one hatred doesnt justify other hatred and make everything worse.