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Listening To Mozart Makes You Smarter

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  • #11
    Originally posted by dusken
    Yes, but you are making a generalized conclusion based on only your experience with no control. There is no way of knowing whether or not you would have done just as well had you not been listening to that selection of music. I have heard that studies show the supposed Mozart Effect lasts ten seconds or so. Scientific studies are all we have. You say they are biased but nothing is more so than personal experience.
    if the effect lasts only 10 seconds, thats as good as saying it doesnt exist. how could an effect which improves memory only last 10 seconds? i can remember anything for 10 seconds, with or without mozart! hehehe

    all i meant was that it worked for me.

    it might have been because i listened to mozart the morning of exams, it might have been because i listened to zeppelin the night before, it might be because ive been praying to God twice a day for as long as i can remember, or it might be because im just plain smarter than everybody else! but i think that last one is the LEAST likely. i strongly believe that a person's performance has much more to do with the effects of one's long term routines & habits than with innate talent.. that whole idea of 10% inspiration & 90% perspiration...

    scientific research which shows that x statement is true means nothing to me until i try it myself. all it does is compels me to try it myself.. so why dont u give it a try & see if it works for u, dusk?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by ardenik
      if the effect lasts only 10 seconds, thats as good as saying it doesnt exist. how could an effect which improves memory only last 10 seconds? i can remember anything for 10 seconds, with or without mozart! hehehe
      I know that is what it is essentially saying; that is why I mentioned it. When it comes to testing, it has no real effect on development or intelligence.

      Originally posted by ardenik
      all i meant was that it worked for me.

      it might have been because i listened to mozart the morning of exams, it might have been because i listened to zeppelin the night before, it might be because ive been praying to God twice a day for as long as i can remember, or it might be because im just plain smarter than everybody else! but i think that last one is the LEAST likely. i strongly believe that a person's performance has much more to do with the effects of one's long term routines & habits than with innate talent.. that whole idea of 10% inspiration & 90% perspiration...
      You just said it right there: you do not know if it worked for you. You just know that you had good grades and cannot say why that is.

      Regarding inherent abilities: Natural intelligence or ability means that you have been delt a better hand than most other people, but you can still play them wrong. I agree with you there.

      Originally posted by ardenik
      scientific research which shows that x statement is true means nothing to me until i try it myself. all it does is compels me to try it myself.. so why dont u give it a try & see if it works for u, dusk?
      If you have an aversion to scientific study, so be it. Just remember, technology works and it is not because you went and tested it yourself.

      And, believe me, I listened to as much classical music as you did in my school years.

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      • #13
        thanks for posting the article dusken, pretty interesting.

        i wonder what it does when you sing mozart arias, heh, i must try it!

        has anyone had mozart chocolate ? its very good, it has marsipan inside , mmm

        words are meaningless and forgettable...
        words are very unnecessary, they can only do harm.

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        • #14
          dusken didn't post the article.

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          • #15
            She has uncovered the truth; I am Anonymouse.

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            • #16
              it may very well be true, but it certainly is not the sole determinant, also it may trigger other neuro pathways....
              I can't listen to classical music, I can't stand it, I want to kill something every time I listen to classical music! I've tried countless times to force myself to listen to the damn genre with no success (no animals were harmed ) ...the closest I've come to classical is with the string tribute to nirvana (no I don't like apocalyptica, they suck!) ...so I don't think it's true for everyone.

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              • #17
                hm...i think that one learns to listen to classical music, just as you can learn to listen and apprecieate 'good ' hard rock music, its the same with classical...

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Tres Bien
                  hm...i think that one learns to listen to classical music, just as you can learn to listen and apprecieate 'good ' hard rock music, its the same with classical...
                  this is true, classical music is an acquired taste. but its easier to listen to most pop or rock music because there is far less going on, harmonically, melodically, rhythmically, etc. than in most classical or jazz music & are therefore much more accessible to a layman listening audience. they are more "user friendly" if u will.

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                  • #19
                    "this is true, classical music is an acquired taste."

                    why would you need to acquire taste?

                    I guess one thing may be that you learn what you like as a kid, and your taste doesn't really change much afterwards.

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                    • #20
                      hehe, sorry mistake, i thought when i glanced up it was him :P
                      words are meaningless and forgettable...
                      words are very unnecessary, they can only do harm.

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