Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

[Yedtarts]

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I supposed its America's more advanced technology that allows it to think of war in humanistic terms. During the latest Iraq war, Iraqis were out in the streets, going to markets, etc. during the US bombing. That's how much confidence they had that the US would only hit military targets. The US uses high technology to hit military assets only.

What a crap!

And what about uranium depleted bullets and bombs that US used in Iraq? Was that “America's more advanced technology war” you’re talking about?

[Federate]

Re: Georgian-South Ossetian conflict

Report: Abkhaz troops push Georgians from gorge

MOSCOW: Troops in the separatist Georgian province of Abkhazia launched an operation Tuesday to push Georgian forces out of the northern Kodori Gorge, the only area of the province still under the control of the former Soviet republic, the Interfax news agency reported.

The operation in the western region comes as Russian troops have pressed into Georgia in an escalating conflict that started last week over another breakaway province, South Ossetia in central Georgia.

The Interfax report cited the Abkhaz defense headquarters as saying the operation started early Tuesday to push Georgian troops out of the northern part of the Kodori Gorge. The report gave no other details. The operation could not immediately be independently verified.

Russian-backed separatist forces in Abkhazia launched air and artillery strikes Saturday to drive Georgian troops from their bridgehead in the region. Abkhazia's separatists declared Sunday they would push Georgian forces out of the gorge.

On Monday, Russian troops invaded Georgia from Abkhazia while most Georgian forces were busy with fighting in the region around South Ossetia.

Both South Ossetia and Abkhazia have run their own affairs without international recognition since fighting to split from Georgia in the early 1990s and have built up ties with Moscow.

In 2006, Georgian forces moved into the upper part of the Kodori Gorge to root out members of a defiant militia. Georgia later established a local administration made up of people who fled the fighting in Abkhazia.

Abkhazian and Russian officials have said they believe Georgia intends to launch an offensive from there to retake Abkhazia and demanded the withdrawal of Georgian troops

From http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...a-Abkhazia.php

[Azad]

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I didn't think Russian's would advance on Tbilisi.

I believe there will be an excuse to make it to Tbilisi. Looking at the amount of armament that is advancing, this is not a small incursion. Russia will not leave Georgia without having a pro Russian government in Georgia. Russia wants a very Vertical Axis from Iran to Russia without NATO nesting in the middle of it. Russia is not only securing its oil routs, it is creating a dividing line between the East and the West. A strong pro Russian Iran will eventually tame the Arabs to its control. Russia is building a new Empire.

[skhara]

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I didn't think Russian's would advance on Tbilisi.

[yerazhishda]

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That is sad news indeed but one can still hope

I'm hoping it's some sort of ploy to confuse the Georgians - you know how things like this can "change".

[o0tinerz0o]

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That is sad news indeed but one can still hope

[yerazhishda]

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Bad news...

Russian troops do not plan to advance on Tbilisi - Moscow

source: http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/28829

Moscow has denied Georgia's assertion that Russian troops are moving in on the capital Tbilisi. The allegation was made by Georgia's Ministry of Defence. Russia has also announced its troops have left the Georgian town of Senaki, having secured it from attacking South Ossetia.

Throughout Monday, Georgia repeatedly accused Russia of moving in on civilian targets, including the capital Tbilisi.

None of the reports have been substantiated and are denied by officials in Moscow.

Moreover, Russian peacekeeping forces have left Senaki, Georgia’s largest airbase, about 40km from the border with Abkhazia.

Map of the region
“Russian peacekeepers and military units attached to them have been taking action to prevent Georgia from shelling South Ossetia and Russian peacekeepers,” a spokesman for the Defence Ministry said.

Another objective of the operation was to prevent ‘a build-up of additional volunteers and reservists’ mobilised to continue military operations in the breakaway republics.

It was Russia’s first operation inside Georgian territory proper since Tbilisi began its offensive against the breakaway republic of South Ossetia last week.

Moscow has also denied reports of Russian peacekeepers entering another Georgian city, Poti.

Georgia's Prime Minister has confirmed that no civilians were harmed in Russia's movements.

Meanwhile, the new statement of the Georgian government demands the international community to interfere and save the country.

And Georgia's President, Mikhail Saakashvili, said Georgia is now battling for its independence.

Talking to Georgia's Security Council he described the situation in the country as "very difficult" and said that Russian troops have reached the road connecting the eastern and western parts of Georgia.

U.S. starts evacuating embassy staff from Tbilisi

Meanwhile, the U.S. has begun evacuating the families of its diplomats from Georgia. They are being sent to Armenia as a precaution, according to the U.S. Embassy in the Armenian capital Yerevan.

U.S. ambassador John Tefft and his team of diplomats will continue their work in Tbilisi.

[RSNATION]

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Saakashvilli has made another foolish move. He has stated that he "refuses to surrender" when the right to do would be to surrender unconditionally and what for Russia to dictate the terms.

Now Georgia is really in for it. I look forward to see what tomorrow brings.

[o0tinerz0o]

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I supposed its America's more advanced technology that allows it to think of war in humanistic terms. During the latest Iraq war, Iraqis were out in the streets, going to markets, etc. during the US bombing. That's how much confidence they had that the US would only hit military targets. The US uses high technology to hit military assets only. As for Secretary Rice, she was appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, so she is not "self-proclaimed" at all. She is one of the most knowledgeable people in America on the former USSR. Religious bigotry is uncalled for.

Advanced technology. Please. Why do you address us in this forum like we are a gathering of half-wits yearning for a drop of intellectual truth? The population would not have this belief of a "safe" war if the United States had not tailored this belief that with their "technology" somehow only the worthy would die from the bombing and bullets? As if their bullets and missiles seek only the deserving. It was this same "Advanced" technology that has led to over 100,000 iraqi civilian deaths, and a yet undetermined but unacceptable loss of American lives due to friendly fire. Confidence. HA. There is no mercy in war, there is not selective decision making, military only, no civilians. Ultimately it is the people of the nation that pay the price, not the soldiers. After Hitler, the German people payed the price, worked and sweat, to rebuild and recreate what a few destroyed. The same responsibility will fall on the American people. As far as your rhetoric regarding Rice, I thank RSNATION for addressing that issue for me. This country has as much understanding about the current geopolitical situation regarding that part of the world, as Hitler did about a bar mitzvah. Russia is no longer red, and America can no longer go pushing her ideals in peoples facing while blatantly doing the total opposite. Ultimately the choice is not Obama or McCain. It is, PROGRESS or REGRESS. The choice is OURS, Americans.

[yerazhishda]

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You've got to be kidding me. First of all, she barely speaks Russian though she claims to be fluent. When the Russians {Putin, Lavrov, etc} meet with her, they always say something shocking to see if she can understand...she often has no idea what they're saying;its also an inside joke that Merkel and Putin have about her; Merkel is actually fluent in Russian.

Secondly, like most neo-cons, their views and impressions of Russia are very outdated and still based on the Cold War. Their bluster, miscalculations, ill-treatment and disrespect of the Russians is one reason why the Russians have displayed such force.

1. Good, condie's an anti-Armenian, anti-Russian, pro-Joos/Israel xxxxx.

2. Correct. How do you think they've garnered support for a country most Americans have never heard of? By playing on baby-boomer fears of Russia; i.e. they still think it's the USSR.