Hezbollah

[Yedtarts]

Re: Hezbollah

I dislike any group which tries to claim religious superiority or is linked to religion in any way. Having said this, if it wasn't for these guys arming themselves, Lebanon would now be another Israeli province. Isreal is a racist state in addition to being religously intollorant. The xxxish state persecutes christians and muslims in its persuit of zionism(a purely racist concept). Westerners see Israel in a better light because western media is dominated by xxxs and one should not forget this fact when forming a opinion.

Very well said!

[Haykakan]

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I dislike any group which tries to claim religious superiority or is linked to religion in any way. Having said this, if it wasn't for these guys arming themselves, Lebanon would now be another Israeli province. Isreal is a racist state in addition to being religously intollorant. The xxxish state persecutes christians and muslims in its persuit of zionism(a purely racist concept). Westerners see Israel in a better light because western media is dominated by xxxs and one should not forget this fact when forming a opinion.

[Federate]

Re: Hezbollah

Hezbollah 'found moles, foiled Israeli cell'


Hezbollah has successfully foiled an Israeli espionage operation, which saw the infiltration of spies into the movement, a daily reports.

The Lebanese newspaper al-Hayat reported that the members of a spy ring including a Lebanese officer identified as General Adib al-Alam successfully infiltrated Hezbollah, but the movement managed to find them.

Last week, the Lebanese media reported that the country's security service in cooperation with Hezbollah disbanded two espionage cells run by an operation out of Israel.

The spies are said to have used special equipment to guide Israeli warplanes during the 33-day war between Israel and Lebanon in 2006.

Adib was reportedly running one cell along with his wife and nephew and the second cell comprised of three other spies.

The Lebanese officer has confessed that he had been trained by the Israeli spy agency Mossad.

According to the al-Hayat report, Hezbollah has adopted new measures to prevent the infiltration of Israeli spies in the future.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=91826&sectionid=351020203

[Eddo211]

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I will be the first to state Israeli atrocities and brutality and the overall nature of the State of Israel. I'll also go so far as to state that Palestinians have a right to self-determination and self-defense against naked Israeli aggression.

However, I draw a line with you folks in terms of honoring Hezbollah or any of these Muslim brotherhood type deals. Let's not forget that just as Judaism and the State of Israel is intolerant toward the other, so is Islam. And Islam is not a religion of peace but very much so a religion of hierarchy, subjugation and order. And lest we forget what Islam is about we need only look at our own Armenian history to see that we were a subject peoples under Islam and were discriminated upon and treated as a second class people.

Most if not all of these Islamic based groups or Islamic fundamentalist organizations seek an Islamic society or a caliphate or some type of deal where they will impose Islam on everyone else. Their mentality and backwardness of thought is against the idea of placing the highest emphasis on culture of a people but on the culture of the religion, because Islam is an all encompassing ideology of one-worldism that reduces people under one banner of sameness.

Let's fall into the trap where we can't see the forest for the trees.

I don’t think this can be put any better.

I hope this is truly understood by Armenians. Everything is not what it is on the surface, take it from someone who has rode through it………Ha

[Eddo211]

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That is interesting news.

If I had to guess Federate I would say that this is all about weakening the Iranian Mullah’s ability to leverage Hezbollah against Israel.

[Federate]

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I love these little games the Westerners like to play. They are establishing contact with the political wing but not the military wing... Well no sh!t? You don't negotiate with the military wing of a political group. And it's not like the two wings have any differences...
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UK restores links with Hezbollah


Britain says it is re-establishing contacts with the political wing of the Lebanese movement Hezbollah.

The move follows "positive political developments" in Lebanon, officials from the UK Foreign Office said.

It comes about 10 months after Hezbollah signed a unity accord in Lebanon and joined the government.

Only last year, the government put Hezbollah's military wing on a list of proscribed organisations over its alleged training of insurgents in Iraq.

"We are exploring certain contacts at an official level with Hezbollah's political wing, including MPs," said a spokesperson for the Foreign Office.

The spokesperson said the UK was doing "all it can" to support Lebanon's unity government, of which Hezbollah's political wing is a part.

"Our objective with Hezbollah remains to encourage them to move away from violence and play a constructive, democratic and peaceful role in Lebanese politics, in line with a range of UN Security Council Resolutions."

The spokesperson said Britain would continue to have no contact with Hezbollah's military wing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7927025.stm

[Haykakan]

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Ok Pal i am starting to believe that arguing with you is pointless.Your lack of mastery over the english languadge seems to be menifesting itself in the ways u interpret what is written.This conclusion u reached is a good example (I do not think, You realy know what are you talking. Turkish nationalist does not hate palastinians. They support arabs(I cannot talk about israel but where did your knowledge comes? About Turkish nationalists, It is totally false) are you trying to make a point acording to your fantasies?).Obviously i was refering to xxxs vs palastinians and turcks vs armenians and not to anything else.However in responce to your comment of (That is another point without proof. Also It is absurd to group Turks and xxxs as one.),it is very much fair to compare what is happening in isriel with what happened in turckey. I never said xxxs and turcks are one but they are doing the same thing and are in a similar state of racism and denial of the truth.And again i am not refering to all turcks and xxxs.Here is another falacy(Realy? so tell me one country who interest with her own crimes. You can find absolutely none. Everycountry is right at every war.)USA has given indians special rights and lands, Germany has given the xxxs lotsa money. These are just a couple examples.I realy dont have time to correct every stupid mistake you make. Perhaps it would be best if you go improve your english and brush up on nonturkish sanctioned history before you try to win any arguments here.

[SoyElTurco]

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the discussion about zionism=racism or nationalism=racism i believe belongs in the intellectual lounge. it doesnt engage the topic of the thread "Hezbollah"

[Palavra]

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Palavra you are confusing pride for ones country with hate for others.A person can be proud to be armenian or russian or greek or whatever without hatered for other races.You can be a nationalist without being a racist.

A thin line. Anyway, tell me If Russian, armenian or greeks hate other nations.(I just used your examples.)

The point i was making is that racism is synonymous with zionism and the turkish national movement

So you just want to make a point? Please support it with facts.

As a matter of fact many of the zionists and turkish nationalists hate palastinians and armenians more then they like their own country.

I do not think, You realy know what are you talking. Turkish nationalist does not hate palastinians. They support arabs(I cannot talk about israel but where did your knowledge comes? About Turkish nationalists, It is totally false) are you trying to make a point acording to your fantasies?

By the way, armenian hate or armenia is not important part of Turkish identity.(Unlike, Turkish hate of armenians) It is funny(If not ironic.) you accuse Turks.

Building a fake history is exactly what turkey is doing but thats not what everyone else does.

Realy? so tell me one country who interest with her own crimes. You can find absolutely none. Everycountry is right at every war.

There are objective sources you can compare any official state position on history with.

Objective sources? where are they?

is not a conspiracy when the whole world says there was a armenian genocide and turkey is the only country that says no there wasn't.

My friend even I believe There was a genocide or at least an ethnic cleansing, I am sure(more powerful word than believe.) a latin at america have no interest with armenia or turkey. Their knowledge about AG comes from armenians. They are not searching AG, They are hearing it from armenians.

It is stupid to believe we are stupid. We know, why a lot country accepted AG and It has zero relation with reality. If you realy believe it that so much country interested with justice, You are naive.(at least.)

Turks and xxxs are hurting themselves by wearing blinders and pretending that reality is whatever they say it is.

That is another point without proof. Also It is absurd to group Turks and xxxs as one.


Anyway, Noneed to destroy such a lovely "we hate xxxs" thread with "We hate turks" mentality.

[Haykakan]

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Palavra you are confusing pride for ones country with hate for others.A person can be proud to be armenian or russian or greek or whatever without hatered for other races.You can be a nationalist without being a racist.The point i was making is that racism is synonymous with zionism and the turkish national movement.As a matter of fact many of the zionists and turkish nationalists hate palastinians and armenians more then they like their own country.Building a fake history is exactly what turkey is doing but thats not what everyone else does. There are objective sources you can compare any official state position on history with.It is not a conspiracy when the whole world says there was a armenian genocide and turkey is the only country that says no there wasn't.Turks and xxxs are hurting themselves by wearing blinders and pretending that reality is whatever they say it is.