U.N. Anti-Racism Conference

[hipeter924]

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Some people are more interested in themselves...you can't blame them either...sometimes the government and other people let you down, or you just want to cut yourself off and forget the world and live in your own. I am not one of those people however.

[hrai]

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Bell-the-cat, shut the hell up man, you are not even Armenian, what the xxxx do you know about our struggle? Not much, so just be quiet and stop hand waving. If anyone has to practice what they preach it is you...



You are such a xxxxing hypocrite. So motherxxxxer, why do you support Israel and put them on the front page of the BBC? Why do you claim you fought in WW2 to save the xxxs? Why do you put the facade of being "morally superior" when you yourself just now admitted to looking out for your own national interest? The very action of you ridiculing Armenians and asking them to "put up or shut up" bolsters Ahmadinejad's argument, he is right and as you pointed out just now, the blood of xxxs is more valuable than the blood of non-xxxs.

And second of all, xxxxface regarding your quote ...



Your government is the reason why Iran is a "radical" state. If your government just stopped sticking their noses into the Middle-East and had let the secular socialist take power, maybe we would have had a different world. Again, the ugly truth comes out, why do you hide it? Face it, the problems of this new century stem from the English and their imperialism. At least be a man about it and fess up. You claim that we don't have backbone, xxxx you, show me yours xxxxx.

Well, I don't know the calculations made by the political think tanks in Armenia, but I don't see why they had to walk out? What was the benefit? Europeans and Americans already favor the Turks and Israel is continually behind them on the sidelines, what the hell was the point? They could have just stayed and no one would have known.

And the very idea that the victims of the Armenian genocide are treated as second class victims makes Ahmadinejad's argument even stronger. He is right, he is absolutely right, xxxish blood is worth more than Armenian blood.

Consider the parallels, have you? No, you have not and you will never consider it because all of you reading this are brainwashed into thinking that there indeed exists a "moral high ground" for the boycott when in fact it is pure theatrics to push forward interests that do not benefit Armenians nor the majority of the nations in the world. Do you guys just buy into the media coverage? Maybe, did you know that the transcript of these speeches were officially drafted and agreed upon before the event took place? No, so, what are you saying Virgil? I am saying that this was all rigged to make Ahmadinejad look like a Hitler and it worked. Do you honestly think that three pimple faced teenagers could walk into the UN (Pssst ... this is where the top leaders of the world congregate, you need a clearance to wipe your ass) and put on a show like that without being protected? Yes, they were protected and it was a set up. Half this crap is all theatrics.

When you consider the stance on the Armenian Genocide by these very same governments that boycotted the event, you will see, if you read the transcripts, that the rhetoric amounts to genocide denial. Now, I ask yourselves, if indeed the treatment of the Armenian Genocide is different, which is it, it is vastly different, it is borderline insulting, (To actually claim that "historians must address this moral argument" amounts to calling every Armenian and academic that unanimously supports what did amount to the first mass killing, Genocide, of a people in the 20th century a lier), would this not amount to racism? YES, IT WOULD, There exists no rebuttal to this, the UN is a house full of Charlatans, everyone is dirty and to make it seem like xxxs have a case for reparations and justice, while Armenians don't, only proves the Iranian president has a moral argument to define Zionism as a form of racism. Ok, so Virgil you claim that Israel does not have a right to exist? No, I claim that if Israel has a right to exist and has a right to practice Zionism then what about the Assyrians? What about the Kurds? What about the Tibetans? Why is it that the entire world has to baby and secure the future of 5 million xxxs, but ignores the plight of others? It is ridiculous to attack a man that claims that there exists favoritism in the UN with more favoritism. You see, he is not claiming that he is morally better than the west, he is only claiming that the west is not as morally superior as they claim to be. Essentially, they are supporting Israel for their own interests and he is calling them
out with the same breadth and mannerism of how the western states call out others.

Virgil, agree with your message, not with your language. (bell is waaay beyond the words you used)

[Lucin]

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Maybe you should start to practice what you preach.

When you stop distorting what is being said then I will "practice what I preach" but until then cut the crap.

You think every country in the World is obliged to have detailed knowledge of the AG, and give unquestioned support to Armenia, even if it is against their national interest. But you think it OK for Armenia to live in the easily-reached gutter of self-interest while everyone else has to take the difficult moral high ground (when it concerns Armenia).

For the record, I do not expect "every country to give unquestioned support to Armenia even if it is against their national interest" (who said that??) but I would certainly expect Armenians not to give unconditional, unquestioned support to a state who lobbies against her interests, to a nation whose President denies openly the Armenian Genocide and obtusely resorts to its same old-fashioned anti-Armenian policies in other words; whenever it is against Armenia's national interest. Whether it pleases you or not, every single policy made in Armenia, should stem from our own national interests.

[KanadaHye]

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I don't see what in cat's post deserved your response full of name calling. Can we please be civil and not use insults and name calling? By appealing to your emotions you are only confirming the truth of his assertion. You do realize that, don't you?

Name calling and insults aside, he made an excellent post.

[KanadaHye]

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Then that begs the question. If you can make excellent points, why resort to the insults?

It's just unnecessary. Meanwhile, chew on this U.N.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1080097.html

"During the interview, Lieberman said Iran is not Israel's biggest strategic threat; rather, Afghanistan and Pakistan are.

This comes after years of Lieberman warning about the growing Iranian threat. Now, he has dropped Tehran to number two, with Iraq coming third.

Lieberman also discussed Moscow's under-utilized role in the Middle East and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and said he aims to correct this. The newspaper emphasized Lieberman's intention to develop closer ties with Russia and to resolve international issues jointly."

That would explain Hillary Clinton's speech and the Administration's new bold stance towards Pakistan. How much more can Israel push the US into it's fights. The US military is already spread out too thin.

[Lucin]

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Name calling and insults aside, he made an excellent post.

I agree. It was brilliant.

[hipeter924]

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I love this quote from a uneducated Israeli idiot:

Not to mention that considering its past treatment of the Maori people, New Zealand is in no position to comment on Israel's attempts to defend itself.

Sham on you Kiwis!

Maori people are well treated. Look at any other native people (American Indians, Australian aborigines,etc) they are few in number and their culture is virtually wiped out. Maori are neither, lol. Not to mention what made it more funny is that we pay billions of dollars every year in compensation to Maori. Whereas Israel ethnic cleanses the Palestinians and wipes them out. Big difference.

Some more classic racist Israeli quotes here:

http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/App/TalkBack/CdaViewOpenTalkBack/1,11382,L-3657217,00.html

Going off topic a little but I am just rolling my eyes:

The Maoris were not the first people to live in NZ btw, that distinction goes to the Moriori’s but being a typical ill informed American I guess you didn’t know that. Americans, don’t let Fox form your opinions for you, there are other sources of information out there!

The Moriori's were a myth established early on by the British government in order to legitimise their invasion of New Zealand through finding evidence to support darwinism/white mans burden aka:

1. Maori wipe out Moriori
2. Europeans defeat Maori

Of course the concept Moriori are not Maori is now widely discredited by most academics here, it was Maori attacking other Maori. So the guy made an utter idiot of himself,lol.

[bell-the-cat]

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The Moriori's were a myth established early on by the British government in order to legitimise their invasion of New Zealand through finding evidence to support darwinism/white mans burden aka:

1. Maori wipe out Moriori
2. Europeans defeat Maori

Of course the concept Moriori are not Maori is now widely discredited by most academics here, it was Maori attacking other Maori. So the guy made an utter idiot of himself,lol.

That "of course" about New Zealand sounds similar to one in America, were it is politically unacceptable to say that the ancestors of today's "native Americans" were not the original inhabitants of the Americas and where archaeological evidence that proves they were not is supressed or destroyed.

[bell-the-cat]

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I don't see what in cat's post deserved your response full of name calling. Can we please be civil and not use insults and name calling? By appealing to your emotions you are only confirming the truth of his assertion. You do realize that, don't you?

Maybe Virgil just felt sorry for the "x" key on his keyboard - the loneliest, least used key - and decided to give it some love and attention.

[Anoush]

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I agree. It was brilliant.

Yes Lucin, in reference to Virgil's post I also agree. It was indeed brilliant!