Muslims occupy Europe

[gegev]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Why Muslims are that fanatic and blood thirsty, as opposed to Christians?
Why Christians doesn't riot when Christian religion is mocked?

This is the strongest evidence that Islam is the religion that advocates intolerance, as opposed to Christianity.

[Mos]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Why Muslims are that fanatic and blood thirsty, as opposed to Christians?
Why Christians doesn't riot when Christian religion is mocked?

This is the strongest evidence that Islam is the religion that advocates intolerance, as opposed to Christianity.

I think we Christians should be more attentive to when people mock our religion.

[Mher]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Why Muslims are that fanatic and blood thirsty, as opposed to Christians?
Why Christians doesn't riot when Christian religion is mocked?

This is the strongest evidence that Islam is the religion that advocates intolerance, as opposed to Christianity.

Islam is just a few hundred years behind Christianity, perhaps appropriate considering it started a few hundred years after Christianity. Christians didn't act much differently up until the end of the 17th century. Most of the wars and major conflicts of the 17th century were religiously motivated. Now that we are in the information age, with information so readily available, I think its only a matter of time before many of these countries develop to a point were things like this won't be a problem anymore. I don't think its fair to say Islam is a religion that advocated intolerance unlike Christianity, considering Christians have advocated for just as much intolerance for a majority of the religion's existence.

[Mos]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Islam is just a few hundred years behind Christianity, perhaps appropriate considering it started a few hundred years after Christianity. Christians didn't act much differently up until the end of the 17th century. Most of the wars and major conflicts of the 17th century were religiously motivated. Now that we are in the information age, with information so readily available, I think its only a matter of time before many of these countries develop to a point were things like this won't be a problem anymore. I don't think its fair to say Islam is a religion that advocated intolerance unlike Christianity, considering Christians have advocated for just as much intolerance for a majority of the religion's existence.

I agree, there are though certain elements in Islam that are commendable. For example, regarding women. Just take a look at some of those Western women who pretty much act like men now, versus Muslim women that are on average much more modest, and dedicated to the family, and actually act like a woman. There's also the quality of the daily prayers, which are essential to Muslims, that really makes one more connected to the religion.

[retro]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Islam is just a few hundred years behind Christianity, perhaps appropriate considering it started a few hundred years after Christianity. Christians didn't act much differently up until the end of the 17th century. Most of the wars and major conflicts of the 17th century were religiously motivated. Now that we are in the information age, with information so readily available, I think its only a matter of time before many of these countries develop to a point were things like this won't be a problem anymore. I don't think its fair to say Islam is a religion that advocated intolerance unlike Christianity, considering Christians have advocated for just as much intolerance for a majority of the religion's existence.

It's not possible to reform Islam as it is monolithic. Which is partly why many secular western 'Muslims' are increasingly at odds with it.

[gegev]

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Islam is just a few hundred years behind Christianity, perhaps appropriate considering it started a few hundred years after Christianity. Christians didn't act much differently up until the end of the 17th century. Most of the wars and major conflicts of the 17th century were religiously motivated. Now that we are in the information age, with information so readily available, I think its only a matter of time before many of these countries develop to a point were things like this won't be a problem anymore. I don't think its fair to say Islam is a religion that advocated intolerance unlike Christianity, considering Christians have advocated for just as much intolerance for a majority of the religion's existence.

Thus the 17-th century Christians can be compared with nowadays Muslims in terms of intolerance. And concurrent Christians are 300 years ahead of them; I agree. Lets wait for 300 years w/o moving ahead... to reach equilibrium.

[Mher]

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Thus the 17-th century Christians can be compared with nowadays Muslims in terms of intolerance. And concurrent Christians are 300 years ahead of them; I agree. Lets wait for 300 years w/o moving ahead... to reach equilibrium.

It is not really going to take 300 years though. It has only been a decade or so since home computer and internet have been widely available, even less than that, for some of these countries. As these countries naturally progress toward true democracies, and more of the population become educated, in a few decades these problems will be gone. Just look at Iran, it is mostly a moderate well educated young country, being controlled by a small minority of old religious far right conservatives. Sooner or later, the educated will by far outnumber the uneducated and the old mullas will lose their grasp on power, and all the country will fundamentally change.

[hrai]

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I agree, there are though certain elements in Islam that are commendable. For example, regarding women. Just take a look at some of those Western women who pretty much act like men now, versus Muslim women that are on average much more modest, and dedicated to the family, and actually act like a woman.

ffs. nothing about islam is commendable, mohammed told his followers to put "non-believers" to the sword................they've been doing that ever since. It's a religion for violence, discord and abuse. Rent-a-mob dervishes appear in all these countries at a moment's notice, they have a steady supply of western (US) flags to burn and scream their putrid slogans. Maybe they should consider work, maybe they should consider comparing the number of muslims killed by christians against the number of muslims killed by muslims in any given year.

[gegev]

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ffs. nothing about islam is commendable, mohammed told his followers to put "non-believers" to the sword................they've been doing that ever since. It's a religion for violence, discord and abuse. Rent-a-mob dervishes appear in all these countries at a moment's notice, they have a steady supply of western (US) flags to burn and scream their putrid slogans. Maybe they should consider work, maybe they should consider comparing the number of muslims killed by christians against the number of muslims killed by muslims in any given year.

Absolutely correct! The core of Islam is violence against "non-believers" ("gyavurs", as they call it). If you take it out of Islam nothing will remain. Educated Muslims act as barbarians too, if they are true believers in their sense of religion, this is the behavior of the Muslims in general. If somebody will argue that there are exceptions, I wouldn't enter in polemics much; it could be. We are not talking about exceptions.

[Mos]

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Absolutely correct! The core of Islam is violence against "non-believers" ("gyavurs", as they call it). If you take it out of Islam nothing will remain. Educated Muslims act as barbarians too, if they are true believers in their sense of religion, this is the behavior of the Muslims in general. If somebody will argue that there are exceptions, I wouldn't enter in polemics much; it could be. We are not talking about exceptions.

but as Armenians, we shouldn't make enemies with all Muslims. We actually have good relations with Shia Muslims. Our main enemy is Pan-Turkism/Turanist ideology. Zionism is also heavily anti-Armenian.