Muslims occupy Europe

[Federate]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Notice that the clown has got a picture pinned to his uniform?

This guy truly amazes me. I mean just how long has he been in power in Libya for now?

That picture is Omar Mukhtar, a Libyan national hero who was executed by Italians for trying to organise a resistance movement against Italian colonialism in Libya. It was like Gaddafi claiming that even though we're friends now, we won't forget your colonial past in our country.

He's the butt of jokes in the arab world, he always comes off as some kind of big boy with attitude. In reality, he's mostly exhausted his time, and his buddy barlesconi is trying to milk him while he's alive, with oil contracts and bussiness deals.
As for Black immigration, no money in the whole world can stop it.

Gaddafi is more of a pan-Arab leader than any of those other Arab clowns will ever be. But anyway, coming back to his quote, he's totally right. Muslim birth rates are far higher than other birth rates (including that of the Jews, which is already pretty high) so it is only a matter of decades until Muslims become the dominant force in Europe. Could you imagine what would happen once Turkey enters the EU?

If Europe has a problem with Muslims outnumbering them, it has no one to blame but itself. They're the ones accepting them into their countries and not being tougher with illegals. And when a leader of a nation-state tries to do something about immigration, they are vilified. Just look at the recent controversy in France. Sarkozy deported 1000 illegal Gypsies back to where they came from and almost every EU member condemned him and some even broke Godwin's law and compared this to Nazism . And Gypsies aren't even as numerous as Muslims. The "damage" has already been done (if you are against a Muslim presence in EU) and it looks irreversible.

[Christina]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

No one thought it would really happen that a Christian nation would
end one day. The Greek Byzantine (I do not like to use that word,
but then everyone knows what I am referring to) armies were always
fighting and keeping at bay the Turkish Ottoman forces. It was battle
after battle, century after century. A non stop soap opera of war.

Yes, the Armenians too were doing this.

But no one thought it would actually happen.

Then one day the golden city fell to the invaders.

That was the beginning of the genocide. The real foundation that
set up for the events of 1868-1923.

Communities were not recognizing the real story there.

During the 1909-1923 the European ships were nearby and the Admirals
didn't like each other and many were out to help the tobacco busnessmen
as well as the turkish soldiers and leaders--they gave special orders
for only the businessmen and their tobacco to be allowed to go from
their places to the ships. The turkish helped them.

Then the ships had to be loaded to get the product out on time
so it did not spoil. That they felt was more important that allowing
Armenians to get on board to safety.

Yes, at the end, there were alot of Captains and Admirals that were
convinced to allow the refugees to go on board, and this was good,
yes, but this happened after alot of good people like teachers of
local schools, foreign schools, that had Armenian girls and boys as
students, these teachers really fought to save these children,
by doing what they had to to convince the ships top officers to allow
them on board.

It was due to the conviction and decency of these men and women and
many Armenian students were saved.

attaturk was playing one country off on another. He knew they wanted
the rights to the oil fields. So he was a great manipulator.

The European allies encouraged Greek army to invade to fight the
turks and when they almost made it to the golden city, the powers
that be in that group, ruined it for them.

That was the one great opportunity for there to be a Christian nation
again with an Armenian empire and a Greek one.

That the Greek government, with the war bonds, and all the difficult
situation, allowed Armenians to immigrate over with the Greek
population was wonderful.

You are right: the Europeans and other nations do not see the real
problems now that they allowed the muslims into their lands --
also for cheap labor or whatever reasons.

It does look very bad. And Yerevan should never have allowed a
Mosque.

Armenia for Armenians and for like minded Christians of the Apostolic
tradition.

Now if they have one, they will carry one wanting another mosque and
still another. They are doing this in Britian, France, United States.

This is their game: ask for one and never be satisfied. It is a
strategy of their own.

Besides, they are not Christians of the original faith-Apostolic--then
how can they live there? they will not understand the customs and
how it is to be there. I can only think they have another agenda.

Armenia for Armenians!

[retro]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Muslim birth rates are far higher than other birth rates (including that of the Jews, which is already pretty high) so it is only a matter of decades until Muslims become the dominant force in Europe. Could you imagine what would happen once Turkey enters the EU?

If Europe has a problem with Muslims outnumbering them, it has no one to blame but itself. They're the ones accepting them into their countries and not being tougher with illegals.

I agree that it's a problem and even that sectarian strife is not unlikely futher down the line. However you really have no sense of proportionality.

Europe's Muslims problem is no worse in scale than Russia's. As not ever foreigner in Europe is a Muslim. Their are around 50 million Muslims in Europe (mostly in France the UK and Germany) and maybe another 50 million foreigners, out of a total population of 500 million.

[retro]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

You are right: the Europeans and other nations do not see the real problems now that they allowed the muslims into their lands -- also for cheap labor or whatever reasons.

Well it's naive champagne Socialist European establiments, who are to blame for Europe's open door immigration policy.

[arakeretzig]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

I asks this again, why should armenians care about muslim occupation in europe? It's not like europe ever helped armenians. Only one who stood by armenians over and over again is Russia. Why should I care what happens to europe?
I guarantee you one thing, Europe will stand by blindly if Turkey/azeriz ever tried to invade Armenia. Europe is USA's and Zionists' little pet, they don't even have a clear foreign policy, because they're too scared. Bunch of cowards. That goes to Greece too.
You only have to look at history, to know who your real friends are.

[Eddo211]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

I asks this again, why should armenians care about muslim occupation in europe? .

Not much we can do about it (if it ever really happens)....but such condition will be against Armenia's future interests. Even though Armenia can keep good relation with several Muslim countries at the end of the day, we are a Christian country that has resisted Islamification from the getgo.

[hrai]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

the major wave of immigration to france came after the independence of algeria (no 'i' between the 'g' and the 'e' btw). before that, muslim algerians had second-class citizen status on their own soil.

Thanks, "typo teach", I've put the apple on your desk.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Germany to outlaw forced marriages


Germany's government on Wednesday proposed criminalizing forced marriage, a tradition that some immigrant families impose on their children, even ones who were raised in Germany's more liberal society.

Chancellor Angela Merkel's cabinet agreed to a proposed law that would make forced marriage in Germany a crime that can be punished with up to five years in prison.

The legislation still needs to pass parliament.

"Forced marriages are a serious problem in Germany," Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said, adding that by criminalizing them Germany would make clear that this is no longer "a tradition from olden times or different cultures that is ... tolerable."

About 4.3 million Muslims live in Germany, and arranged marriages are still fairly common, especially among Turks and Arabs.

There are no official figures on the number of forced marriages, but rights groups say that increasing numbers of young immigrants who grew up in Germany and identify with Western values and the right to choose their own partners are rebelling against the tradition.

On Wednesday, the government also proposed modifying a general immigration law to ease an existing restriction on immigrants who are forced into arranged marriages overseas.

Right to return strengthened
Such immigrants often lose their residency status in Germany, if they are kept out of Germany for more than six months, making it more difficult for women who are sent abroad to marry against their will to seek legal recourse.

Under the proposed law, such so-called "vacation brides" would receive an unlimited right to return to Germany, if they have lived in the country for at least eight years and attended school for six years.

Those who have spent less time in Germany also would be able to return to Germany, if they can prove that they are well integrated here.

The German human rights organization Forum Menschenrechte said Wednesday that such legal changes would not go far enough.

For example, it said women who are brought to Germany from Turkey and forced to marry a Turkish immigrant need more protection.

Currently, if these women manage to get a divorce during the first three years of their time in Germany, they are automatically deported to their home country, unless they can prove they suffered a special hardship in their relationship.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/1...-marriage.html

[gegev]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

First I got a couple of questions for you.
Do you live in Europe?
How do you know this is the opinion of the 'Christian' Europeans?(most Europeans don't give a damn about religion)
.....

As opposed to you I’m not fortunate enough to live there, I live in Armenia, Yerevan. But FYI Armenian residents are able to access EU Internet pages to know their opinion on this particular issue.

Please look below at my post, where I quoted UK sources, to learn how do I know their opinion:

Christian club soon, peacefully, will be converted into Muslim club.

The follwoing is quoted from the;

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...continent.html

Britain and the rest of the European Union are ignoring a demographic time bomb: a recent rush into the EU by migrants, including millions of Muslims, will change the continent beyond recognition over the next two decades, and almost no policy-makers are talking about it.

The numbers are startling. Only 3.2 per cent of Spain's population was foreign-born in 1998. In 2007 it was 13.4 per cent. Europe's Muslim population has more than doubled in the past 30 years and will have doubled again by 2015. In Brussels, the top seven baby boys' names recently were Mohamed, Adam, Rayan, Ayoub, Mehdi, Amine and Hamza.


The follwoing is quoted from the;
Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/co....html#comments
September11, 2009

This week, the Office of National Statistics published a list of the most popular boys' names in Britain: Jack, Oliver, Thomas, Harry, Joshua, Alfie, Charlie, Daniel.

They reflect a cultural tradition as old as the nation's history, and would provoke approving nods from Jack the Ripper, Oliver Cromwell, Thomas Becket and Harry Hotspur.

There is just one small problem: the list is deceitful. In reality, the third most popular choice for boy children born last year in England and Wales was not Thomas, but Mohammed.

Deceitful: When both spellings of Mohammed (Muhammed) are combined it is the third most popular boys' name in Britain

Please read the web pages above carefully to learn some of the EU resident’ opinions!

[gegev]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

http://xecutrix.usc.edu/news/msg352291.html

CHRISTIAN-MUSLIM TURKISH NEWLYWEDS ALLEGEDLY KILLED BY BRIDE'S BROTHER

Hurriyet
dec 13 2010
Turkey

A recently married, inter-religious couple was allegedly killed in
the center of Istanbul on Saturday by the wifeâ~@~Ys brother, news
agencies reported.

The woman, a Turkish Armenian, and the man, a Muslim Turk, had
reportedly married without the permission of the brideâ~@~Ys family.

Gönay Ã~V., the brother of murdered 26-year-old Sonay Vural, was
sent to court Monday for allegedly killing the newlywed couple.

â~@~\They married despite us,â~@~] he said, adding that his family
had opposed the marriage due to cultural differences, DoÄ~_an news
agency reported.

Early media reports had said Sonay Vural was Syriac but the Hürriyet
Daily News & Economic Review has learned that she was Armenian. Her
funeral is expected to be held Tuesday at 2 p.m. at the Surp Kevok
Armenian Church in Istanbul.

etc.

This is a vivid example of inter-religious intolerance/fascism expressed by Muslims, on daily bases, world wide.