Muslims occupy Europe

[hipeter924]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

but as Armenians, we shouldn't make enemies with all Muslims. We actually have good relations with Shia Muslims. Our main enemy is Pan-Turkism/Turanist ideology. Zionism is also heavily anti-Armenian.

Well due to the Azeri-Turkish blockade Armenia can't afford to make enemies of Muslims (Shia or Sunni), better to stay neutral or friendly to everyone. Western nations can afford to disagree with Islamic nations, and interfere in their affairs; after all without western investment, trade and tourism their economies would implode. I think all Middle Eastern government's realize that without western money they can't hope to grow economically, in Egypt or Libya especially. When the dust settles from this latest violence, it will be business as usual.

[gegev]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Well due to the Azeri-Turkish blockade Armenia can't afford to make enemies of Muslims (Shia or Sunni), better to stay neutral or friendly to everyone. Western nations can afford to disagree with Islamic nations, and interfere in their affairs; after all without western investment, trade and tourism their economies would implode. I think all Middle Eastern government's realize that without western money they can't hope to grow economically, in Egypt or Libya especially. When the dust settles from this latest violence, it will be business as usual.

If they know that we are aware what their religion is, it doesn’t make them our enemies automatically, just for that reason.

They know better what Islam preaches; at dealing with Non-Believers (Gyavurs), the knowledge doesn’t convert us to their enemies in their eyes and we can still collaborate with them in economic/geopolitical area.

But they would know, for sure, that in case of religious/ethnic clashes we wouldn’t believe to their promises about our safety declarations given by them. And will be ready to confront to it, by force, at any given moment. Our joined forces, and knowledge of Islam, are the only guarantees of our safety.

Neither Christians nor Muslims don’t agree with the concepts of the other religion. It’s world wide known that Christian religion can’t be compared with Islam in terms of preaching tolerance/democracy. In that sense they just oppose each-other.

Let’s call the things by names they deserve. If we don’t dare to tell the reality, we know, about our opponents, it doesn’t make them pitiful towards us, in case of confrontation. The sign of weakness will make them more violent.

[Mos]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Politically we need to be on good terms with the Muslims. Religious Muslims are not very fond of Turks and Azeris actually. The only ones visibly anti-Armenian are Whabbists, but they also don't like any other Muslims.

[retro]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

The chief Tork has weighed in.

PM Erdoğan: Islamophobia should be recognized as crime against humanity

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has stated that Turkey recognizes anti-semitism as a crime, while not a single Western country recognizes Islamophobia as such. Speaking to journalists in Sarajevo after a series of visits to Azerbaijan, Ukraine and Bosnia and Herzegovina, Erdoğan commented on the 14-minute trailer for "Innocence of Muslims," an obscure film that mocks the Prophet Muhammad, which sparked violent riots across various Muslim nations.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-2925...-humanity.html

[hipeter924]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

The chief Tork has weighed in.

It probably will be made one, mainly because of the majority of nations in the UN and Human Rights Council are corrupt dictatorships or theocracies. It is a very strange, I rarely use the term; and only half heartedly when describing true irrational fear of Muslims i.e. Geert Wilder's rants. However the majority of the time the term 'Islamophobia' is used to silence critics and crush freedom of speech/expression, if you disagree with human rights abuses you are called 'islamophobic'. The same can take place with the term 'anti-semitic' when you have legitimate criticism of human rights abuses in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I find Erdogan anti-semetic myself as he has plenty of Islamist friends who would rather see Israel wiped off the map. So Turkey has two standards i.e anti-semitism is not anti-semitism if the political elite say it, but when the common people say it they are punished. All hail tyranny of the majority.

[hipeter924]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

[...]Neither Christians nor Muslims don’t agree with the concepts of the other religion. It’s world wide known that Christian religion can’t be compared with Islam in terms of preaching tolerance/democracy. In that sense they just oppose each-other.

Let’s call the things by names they deserve. If we don’t dare to tell the reality, we know, about our opponents, it doesn’t make them pitiful towards us, in case of confrontation. The sign of weakness will make them more violent.

It depends on the geographic area and level of education, but also in the organisation of the government i.e. Albania and other Balkan states (which after the break up of Yugoslavia now have democracies) vs the Middle East (Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Egypt, Libya,etc) and Asia (Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia,etc). Islamists like to claim that they are taking over the world or that Islam is the fastest growing religion; which is false, as the greatest growing religious groups are Christianity or the non-religious (agnostics or atheists).

Armenia has a high rate of literacy, and freedom of information; Middle Eastern and most African nations do not i.e. they kill/imprison homosexuals, the non-religious, and 'apostates' all with passionate and disgusting support of the majority. The Muslim riots/protests against the cartoons, and now against a lone film-maker have shown the world that Islam is a violent religion; instead of defending their faith they have made it look violent. So increasingly Muslims are leaving Islam (or becoming secular Muslims), or pretending to be Muslim out of fear of the Islamists (especially where apostasy is illegal).

[gegev]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

London massacre.

Quoted from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...er-attack.html

"As they attacked the soldier, one of the men shouted “Allahu akbar”, or God is Great, according to the BBC, while another witness said they appeared to pray next to the body as if the solder was a “sacrifice”".

[retro]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

London massacre.

Quoted from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...er-attack.html

"As they attacked the soldier, one of the men shouted “Allahu akbar”, or God is Great, according to the BBC, while another witness said they appeared to pray next to the body as if the solder was a “sacrifice”".

Only a Muslim would be stupid enough to believe that something like this would advance there cause.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Only a Muslim would be stupid enough to believe that something like this would advance there cause.

Since it is rather unlikely they could ever get close enough to hack the head off George Bush or Tony Blair, doing it to some anonymous grunt soldier is probably as good as they could hope to get.

If countries think they can invade others and commit mass murder at will, and think they can do it without any side-effects to themselves, and are completely negligent in prosecuting their war criminals, then this form of retribution is an acceptable option. I can't talk about "their cause" - but it advances the cause of justice and hinders somewhat the future mass murder of others by Britain and America and its allies.

[retro]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Since it is rather unlikely they could ever get close enough to hack the head off George Bush or Tony Blair, doing it to some anonymous grunt soldier is probably as good as they could hope to get.

If countries think they can invade others and commit mass murder at will, and think they can do it without any side-effects to themselves, and are completely negligent in prosecuting their war criminals, then this form of retribution is an acceptable option. I can't talk about "their cause" - but it advances the cause of justice and hinders somewhat the future mass murder of others by Britain and America and its allies.

Typical leftist-Islamist apologist/enabler!