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    Southern Kyrgyzstan Gripped by Ethnic Violence

    Southern Kyrgyzstan remains gripped by inter-ethnic violence as bodies of Uzbeks killed by Kyrgyz gangs lay in the streets and a wave of refugees flees the country for Uzbekistan. The death toll following a tense night stood at 117 with fears of much higher figures to come.

    Many homes are reported on fire in the cities of Osh and Jalalabad and other towns of southern Kyrgyzstan, where gangs of the majority ethnic-Kyrgyz population went on a killing spree against Uzbeks on Friday. There has also been widespread looting of Uzbek shops.

    The International Red Cross estimates about 80,000 refugees have fled the unrest, mostly women and children. They went to Uzbekistan or are stuck on the border with that country. Men are staying behind to protect homes and remaining family members.

    In addition to the scores of reported deaths, about 1,500 people were injured. Some Uzbeks are claiming there have been considerably more fatalities.

    Avas Saipov, whose journalist son, Alisher Saipov, was murdered in Osh in 2007, confirms widespread reports of corpses lying in city streets. He spoke from an undisclosed location in southern Kyrgyzstan.

    Saipov says even the dead cannot be properly buried. He says many corpses are instead being burned to destroy evidence of crimes being committed.

    The younger Saipov was a stringer for VOA's Uzbek Service.

    On Sunday, elders representing the Kyrgyz and Uzbek communities met in Osh to discuss ways to stop the violence. They shared a loaf of bread in a symbol of friendship, but their call for peace has gone unheeded. The level of animosity is described by Kyrgyz Health Minister Damira Neyazalieva, who gave blood in Bishkek for victims in Osh.

    The health minister says there were appeals for help from the Jalalabad hospital, where an ambulance left the facility but was stopped on the way. She says the ambulance was seized by unidentified people, and the doctors were taken hostage, beaten up and injured.

    Several instances of ethnic violence in Central Asia during the past 20 years are indirectly attributed to borders drawn between Soviet republics by communist dictator Josef Stalin. Historians say those borders were created on purpose to divide and conquer ethnic groups by pitting them against one another.

    Many Uzbeks and interim Kyrgyz President Rosa Otunbayeva are blaming the latest round of unrest on ousted Kyrgyz President Kurmanbek Bakiyev, whose base of support was in southern Kyrgyzstan. Ms. Otunbayeva says his motive is to disrupt a constitutional referendum on reducing presidential powers scheduled for later this month.

    Mr. Bakiyev denies any role and blames interim authorities for failure to protect the people.

    The United States, the European Union, Russia and others have expressed growing alarm about the situation. In Moscow, President Dmitri Medvedev called a meeting of its allies in the Collective Security Treaty Organization to discuss the matter. Russia and the United States both have air bases in Kyrgyzstan.

    Interim Kyrgyz leader Otunbayeva has asked Russia for military assistance to bring the violence under control. Avas Saipov and others say international peacekeepers are needed to stop the violence.

    Officials say unrest has so far killed at least 124 people and wounded more than 1,600 others, but some say death toll is higher

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    Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

    Sounds like another mess left over by good ol mr Stalin. I would not be surprised if the USA and Russia have their hands in this uprising.
    Hayastan or Bust.

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      Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
      Sounds like another mess left over by good ol mr Stalin. I would not be surprised if the USA and Russia have their hands in this uprising.
      They both still have bases there according to the article.
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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        It looks like our troops may soon be sent to Kyrgyzstan...

        Ousted Kyrgyz president says he will not return
        By the CNN Wire Staff
        June 14, 2010 3:19 p.m. EDT

        Minsk, Belarus (CNN) -- Ousted Kyrgyz President Kurmanbek Bakiev said Monday that he had no intention of returning to power and hopes to remain in Belarus, Russia's Interfax news agency reported.

        Bakiev was ousted in April when violent protests erupted in Bishkek, sparked by higher utility prices and allegations of corruption. He had been under criticism by his opponents for fueling ethnic tensions in the south.

        Speaking from Belarus' capital, Minsk, where he lives in exile, Bakiev said he is looking for opportunities with the private sector.

        "I am a man from the production sector, and I am examining Belarusian law now. I have yet to consult with Alexander Grigoryevich [Lukashenko, the president of Belarus]. We have already exchanged opinions," Bakiev said in Minsk on Monday.

        "I think that, if I am helpful here, I will do something in the production sector. I am not going to engage in politics," he said.

        Bakiev also said that peacekeeping forces, under the auspices of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, should be sent to areas of conflict in Kyrgyzstan. The organization comprises Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.

        "I believe CSTO's Collective Operational Reaction Force could normalize the situation, and this should be done," he said.

        According to the International Crisis Group, the former president left a power vacuum that was exploited by different political agendas.

        In its April report after the installation of an interim government, the group projected that the economic failure and a collapsing infrastructure generated public resentment and that there were long-term risks of violence.

        The International Crisis Group is an independent, nonprofit nongovernmental organization involved in conflict resolution.

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          Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

          Indeed another case of intentionally badly drawn borders by Stalin. As long as Russia comes out on top, they can both kill each other as much as they wish.
          Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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            Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

            I'm sure the U.N. will come to the rescue . There are claims that the rape and killing of uzbeks were planned and orchestrated.

            Anyone know more about the Kyrgyzstan population? I'm ignorant to its ethnic makeup and they look kinda Chinese.


            Let's see what's driving the politics here....

            The economy depends on agriculture, despite significant supplies of natural resources, including hydropower, oil and gas, and minerals such as gold. A Canadian company – Saskatchewan-based Cameco – has invested heavily in gold operations in the country.

            Cotton, tobacco, wool, and meat make up the bulk of what's raised on the land. Only tobacco and cotton are exported in any quantity. Industrial exports include gold, mercury, uranium, natural gas and electricity.

            Kyrgyzstan is one of the five "Stans" that are, by virtue of their strategic location next to Afghanistan, a key component of the U.S.-led anti-terror coalition. The others are the republics of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan.

            The "Stans" have other things in common, as well. They sit on some of world's largest untapped oil and gas reserves. And since gaining independence after the collapse of the Soviet Union, they have been led by authoritarian, communist-era strongmen.
            Last edited by KanadaHye; 06-15-2010, 01:56 PM.
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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              Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

              Originally posted by Davo88 View Post
              It looks like our troops may soon be sent to Kyrgyzstan...
              Guess you're right.

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              Armenia might join Russia and other ex-Soviet allies in sending troops to Kyrgyzstan to stop continuing ethnic violence there that has killed at least 124 people, senior lawmakers in Yerevan indicated on Tuesday.


              Armenian Troop Deployment In Kyrgyzstan Seen Possible


              Kyrgyzstan -- A Kyrgyz serviceman sits on an armoured vehicle in the city of Osh, southern Kyrgyzstan, 15Jun2010
              Armenia might join Russia and other ex-Soviet allies in sending troops to Kyrgyzstan to stop continuing ethnic violence there that has killed at least 124 people, senior lawmakers in Yerevan indicated on Tuesday.

              Top security officials from the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), a Russian-led defense alliance of seven former Soviet republics, met in Moscow on Monday to discuss how to respond to deadly rioting in southern Kyrgyzstan mainly targeting ethnic Uzbeks. Over 100,000 of them have fled to neighboring Uzbekistan in recent days.

              National security chiefs from the CSTO member states attending the Moscow meeting reportedly proposed sending helicopters, equipment and possibly troops to the area in order to help the Kyrgyz authorities end the bloody unrest. CSTO Secretary-General Nikolai Bordyuzha presented a joint anti-crisis proposal worked out by them to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev later on Monday.

              “They [Kyrgyz authorities] have enough forces today but they do not have enough equipment, helicopters, ground transport ... even fuel,” Bordyuzha said, according to Russian news agencies.

              Medvedev called the situation in the volatile Central Asian state “intolerable” and hinted at more aggressive measures, saying he might call an emergency summit of the CSTO “if the situation worsens,” Reuters news agency reported. He told Kyrgyzstan's interim leader Roza Otunbayeva earlier that “everything must be done to stop actions -- within the law, but harshly.”


              Kyrgyzstan -- Ethnic Uzbek women cry and plea for help at a refugee camp 10kms outside of Osh in Nariman, 15Jun2010
              The interim government appealed to Russia at the weekend to send in troops. Moscow said it would consult with the CSTO, which includes Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan as well as Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan and Tajikistan.

              Armenia was represented at the Moscow meeting by Artur Baghdasarian, the secretary of President Serzh Sarkisian’s National Security Council. His office declined to give any details of the emergency session and chances of Armenian involvement in a possible CSTO peace-keeping mission in Kyrgyzstan.

              Senior members of the Armenian parliament did not rule out such possibility. “I think that after the meeting [in Moscow] Russia submitted a certain request to the other CSTO member states,” Hrayr Karapetian, chairman of the parliament committee on defense and security, told RFE/RL’s Armenian service. “The issue must now be discussed by their presidents. Let’s see what happens next.”

              “This is an issue that requires detailed discussion,” said Galust Sahakian, the parliamentary leader of President Sarkisian’s Republican Party of Armenia (HHK). “Since Armenia is a member of the CSTO and has obligations, it is possible that there will be troop movements based on a decision to be made by that structure.”

              Speaking to RFE/RL’s Armenian service, Sahakian said Armenian troop deployment in Kyrgyzstan will not require parliamentary ratification if it is carried out within the framework of a NATO-style rapid reaction force which the CSTO members except Belarus and Uzbekistan agreed to form in June last year.

              The Russian military was due to commit by far the largest number of troops for the Collective Operational Reaction Forces (CORF). Armenian troop contribution to the force is still not clear.

              Representatives of Armenia’s leading opposition forces indicated on Tuesday they do not object, in principle, to Armenian participation in a possible CSTO military operation in Kyrgyzstan.

              “We have obligations within the CSTO framework, and in case of a particular turn of events, we can provide troops,” said Vladimir Karapetian of the Armenian National Congress. “I think that at yesterday’s meeting Armenia’s authorities received comprehensive information about the events in Kyrgyzstan which is necessary for making the right decision.”
              Armenia might join Russia and other ex-Soviet allies in sending troops to Kyrgyzstan to stop continuing ethnic violence there that has killed at least 124 people, senior lawmakers in Yerevan indicated on Tuesday.

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              • #8
                Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                They both still have bases there according to the article.
                Anybody have a map of Russian bases in the world? I wonder how many countries they have bases in and also how many of those countries also have U.S bases.

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                  Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

                  Originally posted by Muhaha View Post
                  Anybody have a map of Russian bases in the world? I wonder how many countries they have bases in and also how many of those countries also have U.S bases.
                  Chances are that Russia wants the U.S. base shut down and out of their backyard which is what the current government was leaning towards. This organized uprising was most likely backed by the ousted government and their henchmen supported by the U.S. Russia is going to dominate Kyrgyzstan and that means problems for the U.S. Russia will use this as a bargaining chip in negotiations with America seeing that they need to use Kyrgyzstan as a base for the war in Afghanistan.
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • #10
                    Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

                    One thing i dont get..in CSTO we have Armenia Belarus Russia which is a very capable in military manner countries and partially Kazakhstan cause half of population is actually Russians,forming up one MILITARY ALLIANCE the catch is why the hell the "stan" countries got into it?
                    It is maybe for there own security,its clear enough that stans cant defend properly against a modern army.
                    Also is very hard to imagine "stans" forming brigades to send them west helping there allies.
                    More to consider is they are all expect Tajikistan turkish speaking countries and they have disputes one with the other..see Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan!

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