Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

[Haykakan]

Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

Religion is a way cheaper tool for controling the masses then technology. Technology can be used for or against a cause while religion creates a atmosphere of us vs them and prevents the flow and sharing of information, this is a big difference.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

Religion and religious rule is as far from anarchy as you could possibly ever be. Even judaism which advocates narcissm can hardly be confused with anarchy.

Either way you look at it, there are still royal families in the world calling the shots and our democracies are just a mask used to hide their influence those in power can use technology as a tool for control.

Just looking at this situation in Kyrgyzstan, I'll take an example out of an article that says things like.....

The United Nations humanitarian office says the number of people uprooted by unrest in southern Kyrgyzstan has reached 400,000.

Really? who counted? They know this from sitting in an office?

Spokeswoman Elisabeth Byrs said about 300,000 people have been driven from their homes but are still inside Kyrgyzstan, while as many as 100,000 people are believed to have crossed the border to neighbouring Uzbekistan.

So the U.N. knows this how? Are they involved? Why report statistics off the top of your head... that's just poor reporting.

The last official estimate of refugees who fled the country was 75,000. No number of internally displaced people has been available.

Who was the official that made this estimate? How did he come to this conclusion?

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/0...-refugees.html

[Haykakan]

Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

No, a theocracy submits power to the rulers. Not the same thing as being free of rule. Secular governments do better economically since there aren't any restrictions on certain activities.

Religion and religious rule is as far from anarchy as you could possibly ever be. Even judaism which advocates narcissm can hardly be confused with anarchy.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

What your saying is that only a theocracy can govern and secular governments are doomed to failure. This just does not jive with reality.

No, a theocracy submits power to the rulers. Not the same thing as being free of rule. Secular governments do better economically since there aren't any restrictions on certain activities.

[Haykakan]

Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

One might see it that way, but without order there would be chaos. Religion is a way of enforcing self governance within a society structure which actually approaches on anarchy (no need for a ruler if you can govern yourself). The alternative is state policing and removal of civil liberties since citizens aren't conditioned to govern themselves and can't be trusted.

What your saying is that only a theocracy can govern and secular governments are doomed to failure. This just does not jive with reality.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

That is a perfect example of how easily religion becomes the prefered tool of opression.

One might see it that way, but without order there would be chaos. Religion is a way of enforcing self governance within a society structure which actually approaches on anarchy (no need for a ruler if you can govern yourself). The alternative is state policing and removal of civil liberties since citizens aren't conditioned to govern themselves and can't be trusted.

[Haykakan]

Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

They all have similiar elements since the inherent characteristics of mankind doesn't change. However what does change are the laws that people living under any of those ideologies are expected to follow. Here, the ethnic differences between Uzbeks and Kyrgyzs are being used to divide the people while the media uses their past rule by Islam as a diversion from the real story behind the uprisings. If the media reported responsibly instead of using these power struggles for their agenda, there wouldn't be so much ignorance. However, doing that would also expose all the corruption that the western governments are involved in which is causing all these problems in other countries.

That is a perfect example of how easily religion becomes the prefered tool of opression.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

That is a classic misguided statement typical of the brainwashed westerner living in a zionist controled media empire. Islam is not to different then chrystianity or judaism-they are all the same crap.

They all have similiar elements since the inherent characteristics of mankind doesn't change. However what does change are the laws that people living under any of those ideologies are expected to follow. Here, the ethnic differences between Uzbeks and Kyrgyzs are being used to divide the people while the media uses their past rule by Islam as a diversion from the real story behind the uprisings. If the media reported responsibly instead of using these power struggles for their agenda, there wouldn't be so much ignorance. However, doing that would also expose all the corruption that the western governments are involved in which is causing all these problems in other countries.

[Haykakan]

Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

Where there is islam there is always trouble..

palestine, nigeria, turkey, uyghur..


muslims are the trouble for this world

That is a classic misguided statement typical of the brainwashed westerner living in a zionist controled media empire. Islam is not to different then chrystianity or judaism-they are all the same crap.

[UrMistake]

Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

Isn't Armenia a (hayas)STAN country ? !!

I refer to the central asia countries so i have not to mention them one by one with there names.It whose no racist comment in "stan"People should first learn the meaning of "stan" googel a hint for you it comes from ancient time form an empire which persian once got.
We are the people of Hayk living in our ancient lands continuously trough millennias. For us all the countries could be stans it just our language has some boundaries of how to use them.