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  • #21
    Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    No, a theocracy submits power to the rulers. Not the same thing as being free of rule. Secular governments do better economically since there aren't any restrictions on certain activities.
    Religion and religious rule is as far from anarchy as you could possibly ever be. Even judaism which advocates narcissm can hardly be confused with anarchy.
    Hayastan or Bust.

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    • #22
      Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
      Religion and religious rule is as far from anarchy as you could possibly ever be. Even judaism which advocates narcissm can hardly be confused with anarchy.
      Either way you look at it, there are still royal families in the world calling the shots and our democracies are just a mask used to hide their influence those in power can use technology as a tool for control.

      Just looking at this situation in Kyrgyzstan, I'll take an example out of an article that says things like.....

      The United Nations humanitarian office says the number of people uprooted by unrest in southern Kyrgyzstan has reached 400,000.
      Really? who counted? They know this from sitting in an office?

      Spokeswoman Elisabeth Byrs said about 300,000 people have been driven from their homes but are still inside Kyrgyzstan, while as many as 100,000 people are believed to have crossed the border to neighbouring Uzbekistan.
      So the U.N. knows this how? Are they involved? Why report statistics off the top of your head... that's just poor reporting.

      The last official estimate of refugees who fled the country was 75,000. No number of internally displaced people has been available.
      Who was the official that made this estimate? How did he come to this conclusion?

      http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/0...-refugees.html
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      • #23
        Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

        Religion is a way cheaper tool for controling the masses then technology. Technology can be used for or against a cause while religion creates a atmosphere of us vs them and prevents the flow and sharing of information, this is a big difference.
        Hayastan or Bust.

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        • #24
          Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

          Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
          Religion and religious rule is as far from anarchy as you could possibly ever be. Even judaism which advocates narcissm can hardly be confused with anarchy.
          I think you misunderstand the true concept of religion which is to strive to be free of rule. In geopolitics, they call this independence but we know there is no such thing because we are all interconnected.
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • #25
            Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

            Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
            Religion is a way cheaper tool for controling the masses then technology. Technology can be used for or against a cause while religion creates a atmosphere of us vs them and prevents the flow and sharing of information, this is a big difference.
            It's the same thing depending on which side of the fence you're on.

            The Uzbeks are blaming the Kyrgyzs, the Kyrgyzs are blaming the Uzbeks yet neither of them sits there and looks at the bigger picture as to why they are in this mess.

            Reminds me of Turks and Armenians.
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • #26
              Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

              Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
              It's the same thing depending on which side of the fence you're on.

              The Uzbeks are blaming the Kyrgyzs, the Kyrgyzs are blaming the Uzbeks yet neither of them sits there and looks at the bigger picture as to why they are in this mess.

              Reminds me of Turks and Armenians.
              Thats because its a lot easier to say " its all because of those dam muslims or chrytians or..." then to look at things rationaly.
              Hayastan or Bust.

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              • #27
                Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

                How the hell KanadaHye u managed to compare them with armenian-turkish relations wtf dude~~!!!

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                • #28
                  Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

                  Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
                  How the hell KanadaHye u managed to compare them with armenian-turkish relations wtf dude~~!!!
                  Pretty simple, most Armenians just know they hate Turks but they don't know any history nor do they care to investigate what happened in WW1. Turks weren't the only ones who screwed us so why do most Armenians only blame them?
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • #29
                    Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    Pretty simple, most Armenians just know they hate Turks but they don't know any history nor do they care to investigate what happened in WW1. Turks weren't the only ones who screwed us so why do most Armenians only blame them?
                    Well i know what happened and i know a bunch of people also interested in the matter..You are generalizing and that is bad...based on what your opinion?

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                    • #30
                      Re: Trouble in Kyrgyzstan

                      Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
                      Well i know what happened and i know a bunch of people also interested in the matter..You are generalizing and that is bad...based on what your opinion?
                      Based on Armenians that I know or have met. Notice I said most, and not all.
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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