Free Palestine - The Struggle

[KanadaHye]

Re: Free Palestine - The Struggle

they can't kill all the pals so every few years or so they go through this cleansing process.....they wait for a meaningful Hamas leader to emerge, they assassinate him and his close team, Pals retaliate by sending rockets, and now Israel can bomb them with F-16s and has the excuse to go into gaza and run its cleansing missions before pulling out. This same pattern seem to repeat itself to me.

Yep, and usually around election time...

[Mos]

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Let's hope Hamas can successfully deal with the Zionists!

[bell-the-cat]

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Israel wants war so it can expand its borders. The state incites fear into its own citizens and the citizens of its neighbours. State politicians know that people will not rise up against government if they feel that government is their only protection. The sirens go off in Israel and people run to take cover... not the best way to live life.

No. Israel wants a small war so that the status-quo can continue unchecked for another 5 years. Any change in the way things are now will be very negative for Israel. Especially since Israel has put so much effort into reducing ALL of its neighbours into poverty-stricken states run by fanatics and with less capability for modern warfare than neanderthals. They got rid of Iraq, they got rid of Libya, they got rid of Egypt, they have all but got rid of Syria, and the rest are isolated or are basket-cases. Part of the plan will be to reveal how puny and fanatical Israel's neighbours now are, so that America can disown those countries and their (Israeli-plotted) "Arab springs". This is the purpose of the present bombing of Gaza.

[londontsi]

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I would like to draw an (inverse, whatever it means ) parallel with the situation vis a vi Armenia(ians).

The Gaza people (State) have a SEA which Armenia does not have.
Maybe all those fellow Armenians who think having a SEA is a panacea may wish to reconsider their views again.
I do not wish to bring part of our history where we DID have a SEA which did not prevent our state from collapsing, I have in mind of course Giligia.

The answer is deeper ... (than a SEA).

PS. I feel sorry for the Palestinians with SEA or not SEA.

[Haykakan]

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Yeh i would say you nailed the nail on the head there. If you can get away with massmurder then hey might as well get ratings out of it from a bloodthirsty society you created. A good question is who or what is going to stop these bastards?

No. Israel wants a small war so that the status-quo can continue unchecked for another 5 years. Any change in the way things are now will be very negative for Israel. Especially since Israel has put so much effort into reducing ALL of its neighbours into poverty-stricken states run by fanatics and with less capability for modern warfare than neanderthals. They got rid of Iraq, they got rid of Libya, they got rid of Egypt, they have all but got rid of Syria, and the rest are isolated or are basket-cases. Part of the plan will be to reveal how puny and fanatical Israel's neighbours now are, so that America can disown those countries and their (Israeli-plotted) "Arab springs". This is the purpose of the present bombing of Gaza.

[Haykakan]

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They are blockaded thus cannot use the sea!

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I would like to draw an (inverse, whatever it means ) parallel with the situation vis a vi Armenia(ians).

The Gaza people (State) have a SEA which Armenia does not have.
Maybe all those fellow Armenians who think having a SEA is a panacea may wish to reconsider their views again.
I do not wish to bring part of our history where we DID have a SEA which did not prevent our state from collapsing, I have in mind of course Giligia.

Of course the answer is deeper (than a SEA).

PS. I feel sorry for the Palestinians with SEA or not SEA.

[londontsi]

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They are blockaded thus cannot use the sea!

What is the difference between blockaded while a land-locked country and blockaded while having a SEA.

I would suggest the answer cannot be a SEA, it has to be something else, even a number of something else-es.

[londontsi]

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I have been following an interesting historical documentary about Giligia (Armenian TV).

The Giligian Kingdom had massive coastal fortifications, had a navy yet it did not survive.

The sad reality was that the odds were stacked too much against it. So is the situation with the Palestinians .


On the other hand the Israelis have ( currently) all the odds in their favour.

[Haykakan]

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Having access to the sea is a very important factor. Yes it is just one factor and it alone cannot guerantee success of a state but this point is rather obvious and i do not see what other point you are trying to make.

[londontsi]

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Having access to the sea is a very important factor. Yes it is just one factor and it alone cannot guerantee success of a state but this point is rather obvious and i do not see what other point you are trying to make.

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The sad reality was that the odds were stacked too much against it.

So is the situation with the Palestinians .

There are many criteria that guarantees survival of a nation, they are both internal as well as external.

There are many landlocked countries that are secure and prosperous.


If you have a neighbour who is strong and hostile intent on your destruction no amount of sea will help you.

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