Did US use atomic bomb to kill Bin Laden?

[Haykakan]

Re: Did US use atomic bomb to kill Bin Laden?

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[KanadaHye]

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So you refute that al-Qaeda was connected to 9/11? Besides the evidence of connection, you know that Osama admitted to ordering the attacks. I mean of course we can say everything is made up, heck all the videos of Osama were made up, everything was just part of a big Zionist scheme to take over the world.

Next thing you're going to tell me is that Hollywood doesn't have an effect on people's thoughts and behaviour

What about anthrax? You know it wasn't from the same terrorists.

Exactly, so there would have to have been lunatic Americans (ok, so there isn't a lack of them) waiting for something like 9/11 to happen just so they can randomly send white powdered substance in the mail. Maybe they wanted to get notoriety on the news but were too ugly for cameras.

Well first off, it's kind of tough to give a trial to someone who will go down before being taken. Plus, I'm sure if Osama was still alive the reaction from al-Qaeda and its sympathisers would be heck of a lot different.

These extremists are all left over from make shift militaries that the U.S. and Britain created to serve their interests in the middle east. So Al-Qaeda at one point was on western payroll. They just got angry after the layoffs or termination of employment. Disgruntled terrorists.

[Mos]

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Logic would tell us that....

I never have supported US's policy in the middle east, nor their imperialistic wars. That being said, if a group is specifically known to have caused this attack and actively seeking to cause more, it's not out of logic to pursue that group - and at the same time try to also understand why such groups target American and not let's say Switzerland in the first place.

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I have seen and read the conspiracy literature. Heard of Loose Change? However, I find the opposing side more convincing and all that supported with the fact of al-Qaeda taking responsibility and much more evidence. There are conspiracy theories for everything, that doesn't mean everything is right. The Bush administration was filled with neo-con a*sholes, but not to the extent that they would be willing to do this.

So you still want to live in Yemen, Saudi Arabia, or rural Pakistan? You would feel safe living in those areas? Wouldn't think twice before splitting bread with Islamic extremists of those areas?

Next thing you're going to tell me is that Hollywood doesn't have an effect on people's thoughts and behaviour

Oh God, so now Osama is a product of Hollywood? They had actors playing out his videos? I mean how more absurd can this get? Where the hell you get this from?

Exactly, so there would have to have been lunatic Americans (ok, so there isn't a lack of them) waiting for something like 9/11 to happen just so they can randomly send white powdered substance in the mail. Maybe they wanted to get notoriety on the news but were too ugly for cameras.

and so? There are lunatic Americans, just like there are lunatic Islamic extremists.

These extremists are all left over from make shift militaries that the U.S. and Britain created to serve their interests in the middle east. So Al-Qaeda at one point was on western payroll. They just got angry after the layoffs or termination of employment. Disgruntled terrorists.

I am aware that al-Qaeda was supported by US, and actually Osama was a close ally of CIA. Same with Saddam. They were all being used as pawns against the Soviet Union's influence, that's what America was most afraid of during the Cold War. The Islamic extremism threat was secondary. Now, it has shifted. They are no longer business partners and have opposing interests.

However, US could do itself a favour by not being so one-sided with Israel, and not getting its nose in everyone's business. So could the US change its policies to decrease such extremism? Of course it could, but it won't eliminate the threat absolutely, you will still have lunatics.

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The only real friend we have in Middle East in my view is Iran. (and keep in mind they are Shia while all these other people are Sunni).

[KanadaHye]

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Oh God, so now Osama is a product of Hollywood? They had actors playing out his videos? I mean how more absurd can this get? Where the hell you get this from?

Just wait, the absurdity just started, you ain't seen nothing yet. The U.S. economy is prime for another dump.

I never have supported US's policy in the middle east, nor their imperialistic wars. That being said, if a group is specifically known to have caused this attack and actively seeking to cause more, it's not out of logic to pursue that group - and at the same time try to also understand why such groups target American and not let's say Switzerland in the first place.

Considering the amount of mayhem the U.S. has caused due to its foreign policy, it's surprising there aren't daily attacks on U.S. interests.

[Mos]

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Just wait, the absurdity just started, you ain't seen nothing yet. The U.S. economy is prime for another dump.

Look US has done its share of wrongs (along with all other "empires" at the height of their power) but suggesting that Hollywood somehow created Osama....I just don't know what to say....

Considering the amount of mayhem the U.S. has caused due to its foreign policy, it's surprising there aren't daily attacks on U.S. interests.

But nothing ever justifies the attacking and killing of innocent civilians. US may do wrongs with its foreign policy, but the average American is not to blame for that, and certainly doesn't deserve to die because of it. An 'eye for an eye' is and outdated and barbaric principle.

[KanadaHye]

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Look US has done its share of wrongs (along with all other "empires" at the height of their power) but suggesting that Hollywood somehow created Osama....I just don't know what to say....

I didn't say Hollywood created Osama. However, I would think that with his wealth, Osama would have had better video equipment and background props.

But nothing ever justifies the attacking and killing of innocent civilians. US may do wrongs with its foreign policy, but the average American is not to blame for that, and certainly doesn't deserve to die because of it. An 'eye for an eye' is and outdated and barbaric principle.

I didn't say that. What I meant to say was you'd think there would be more individual attacks on American interests but there aren't which means people in other countries aren't revengeful (or rather, less revengeful than they should be). However, some Americans do get happy when foreigners die. There are some Americans that love to live the war culture because they've been brought up that way.

[KanadaHye]

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News report on Bin Laden aired in 1997 on NBC news, 4 yrs prior to 9/11

http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/...file/17ydr8z9v

[Mos]

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I didn't say Hollywood created Osama. However, I would think that with his wealth, Osama would have had better video equipment and background props.

So, using the fact that he didn't have better video equipment you assume there is a big conspiracy going on?

I didn't say that. What I meant to say was you'd think there would be more individual attacks on American interests but there aren't which means people in other countries aren't revengeful (or rather, less revengeful than they should be). However, some Americans do get happy when foreigners die. There are some Americans that love to live the war culture because they've been brought up that way.

No sane person gets happy when other people die. So are there insane Americans that may get happy? Sure. But it's certainly not 'some' Americans, it's much less. Let's not forget after 9/11 occurred there were groups of Arabs celebrating, so you have insane people everywhere. Maybe the other group of people that will be happy when innocent people die is terrorist groups because that's their objective.

[KanadaHye]

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So, using the fact that he didn't have better video equipment you assume there is a big conspiracy going on?

No, his videos were all old and there was no new content but the CIA and US gov had to keep using them to keep the poster boy for terrorism alive. It's not a conspiracy, it's strategic warfare. The Russian gov is known for blowing up apartment buildings and then blaming it on the Chechens. I hate the term conspiracy.... since when was the concept of planning so ridiculous.

No sane person gets happy when other people die. So are there insane Americans that may get happy? Sure. But it's certainly not 'some' Americans, it's much less. Let's not forget after 9/11 occurred there were groups of Arabs celebrating, so you have insane people everywhere. Maybe the other group of people that will be happy when innocent people die is terrorist groups because that's their objective.

Ok, perhaps just the ones I worked with when the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were launched There was maybe 1 or 2 that seemed sympathetic, the rest were cheering for the death of towel heads.

Of course, this was when they thought they were winning.... I'm sure after losing their jobs and homes, they take that sentiment back.

[Mos]

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No, his videos were all old and there was no new content but the CIA and US gov had to keep using them to keep the poster boy for terrorism alive. It's not a conspiracy, it's strategic warfare. The Russian gov is known for blowing up apartment buildings and then blaming it on the Chechens. I hate the term conspiracy.... since when was the concept of planning so ridiculous.

Now I have heard everything. You may speculate, but that doesn't make it true. Either you have clear evidence backing your claims, or else just stop speculating and presenting it as fact.

Ok, perhaps just the ones I worked with when the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were launched There was maybe 1 or 2 that seemed sympathetic, the rest were cheering for the death of towel heads.

Of course, this was when they thought they were winning.... I'm sure after losing their jobs and homes, they take that sentiment back.

And I said, the ones who rejoice and encourage the deaths of innocent civilians are insane. Same with those people that were celebrating when the September 11th attacks happened.