Consequences Of Attacking Iran And Why Tehran Is Not Worried

[jgk3]

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So what does this mean for Iran as a customer for the S-300? If the claims of the superiority of these Israeli made weapons is true, how should Iran respond? How are they responding exactly?

[Haykakan]

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USA and Isreal started the latest round of the weapons race by destroying the treaties with Russia. Unless another weapons treaty is signed i am afraid we are headed into a whole new kind of war that would make the terminator look like a joke.

[ZORAVAR]

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I was wondering what you guys would think of this press release from Debka. Debka is an Israeli military intelligence site and though this drone weapon of theirs should be recognized, perhaps their claims should be taken with a grain of salf? What do you think Zoravar?

Debka??????......anything they say should be taken with a container load of salt!!!!

Dear jgk3, to maintain the credibility of this forum, please do not quote anything from debka. Even Israelis admit that it is full of sensationalist BS news.

As for any weapons system annouced/displayed/advertised by Israel or any other country....it is all marketing, I do not take claims and infobrochures at face value. More commonly, on the battlefield, weapons don't perform as advertised.

[jgk3]

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Thanks Zoravar, I'll take your advice on that.

[Eddo211]

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So what does this mean for Iran as a customer for the S-300? If the claims of the superiority of these Israeli made weapons is true, how should Iran respond? How are they responding exactly?

I agree with ZORAVAR

I would also like to say that for Israel to use these drones as a sole attack platform as a pre-empt for destruction of Iran’s nuclear powerplants that are spread across the vast country with some protected well under ground would not be successful and will not end to their advantage considering how Iran could easily retaliate by using Hezbollah and Hamas against Israel. Iran already has purchased advance missile defense batteries (Designed specifically for US warship capable of sinking it with a single shot) from Russia protecting the Persian Gulf. These things are on wheels and can be hidden from detection easily. In the close quarters of the Gulf there would not be enough time to intersept these oncoming Russian rockets that do not fly straight to the target, rather skim the surface and fly an irratic pattern.
The chances of US attacking Iran no longer exists, even when Bush was in power his attempts to strike Iran was shut down by US officials. Israel is on its own in that regards. Iran’s ability to make a nuclear bomb is a joke as well; even if they had the bomb it would be a suicide to Nuke Jerusalem, however it can be politically devastating for the Western powers if Iran went Nuclear.

Sheers

[jgk3]

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I see, thanks for the explanation.

[SoyElTurco]

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a proven missile system developed over the course of decades to be suddenly outdone by nascent drone technology developed over the course of the last few years?

i don't think the doubts stirred by this newbie drone in regard to the s300's reputation and capabilities are warranted.

[Federate]

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Israeli getting ready to attack Iran?

18.04.2009 14:54 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ The Israeli military is preparing itself to launch a massive aerial assault on Iran's nuclear facilities within days of being given the go-ahead by its new government.
Among the steps taken to ready Israeli forces for what would be a risky raid requiring pinpoint aerial strikes are the acquisition of three Airborne Warning and Control (AWAC) aircraft and regional missions to simulate the attack.
Two nationwide civil defense drills will help to prepare the public for the retaliation that Israel could face.
“Israel wants to know that if its forces were given the green light they could strike at Iran in a matter of days, even hours. They are making preparations on every level for this eventuality. The message to Iran is that the threat is not just words,” one senior defense official said

Officials believe that Israel could be required to hit more than a dozen targets, including moving convoys. The sites include Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges produce enriched uranium; Esfahan, where 250 tonnes of gas is stored in tunnels; and Arak, where a heavy water reactor produces plutonium.
The distance from Israel to at least one of the sites is more than 870 miles, a distance that the Israeli force practised covering in a training exercise last year that involved F15 and F16 jets, helicopters and refueling tankers.

The possible Israeli strike on Iran has drawn comparisons to its attack on the Osirak nuclear facility near Baghdad in 1981. That strike, which destroyed the facility in under 100 seconds, was completed without Israeli losses and checked Iraqi ambitions for a nuclear weapons program.
“We would not make the threat [against Iran] without the force to back it. There has been a recent move, a number of on-the-ground preparations, that indicate Israel's willingness to act,” said another official from Israel's intelligence community.

He added that it was unlikely that Israel would carry out the attack without receiving at least tacit approval from America, which has struck a more reconciliatory tone in dealing with Iran under its new administration.
An Israeli attack on Iran would entail flying over Jordanian and Iraqi airspace, where US forces have a strong presence.
Ephraim Kam, the deputy director of the Institute for National Security Studies, said it was unlikely that the Americans would approve an attack.
“The American defense establishment is unsure that the operation will be successful. And the results of the operation would only delay Iran's program by two to four years,” he said.

A visit by President Obama to Israel in June is expected to coincide with the national elections in Iran - timing that would allow the US Administration to re-evaluate diplomatic resolutions with Iran before hearing the Israeli position.
“Many of the leaks or statements made by Israeli leaders and military commanders are meant for deterrence. The message is that if [the international community] is unable to solve the problem they need to take into account that we will solve it our way,” Mr Kam said.
Among recent preparations by the airforce was the Israeli attack of a weapons convoy in Sudan bound for militants in the Gaza Strip.

“Sudan was practice for the Israeli forces on a long-range attack,” Ronen Bergman, the author of The Secret War with Iran, said. “They wanted to see how they handled the transfer of information, hitting a moving target ... In that sense it was a rehearsal.”
Israel has made public its intention to hold the largest-ever nationwide drill next month.
Colonel Hilik Sofer told Haaretz, a daily Israeli newspaper, that the drill would “train for a reality in which during war missiles can fall on any part of the country without warning ... We want the citizens to understand that war can happen tomorrow morning”.

Israel will conduct an exercise with US forces to test the ability of Arrow, its US-funded missile defense system. The exercise would test whether the system could intercept missiles launched at Israel.
“Israel has made it clear that it will not tolerate the threat of a nuclear Iran. According to Israeli Intelligence they will have the bomb within two years ... Once they have a bomb it will be too late, and Israel will have no choice to strike - with or without America,” an official from the Israeli Defense Ministry said, The Times reported.

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=30595

[Pazooki]

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Israeli getting ready to attack Iran?

18.04.2009 14:54 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ The Israeli military is preparing itself to launch a massive aerial assault on Iran's nuclear facilities within days of being given the go-ahead by its new government.
Among the steps taken to ready Israeli forces for what would be a risky raid requiring pinpoint aerial strikes are the acquisition of three Airborne Warning and Control (AWAC) aircraft and regional missions to simulate the attack.
Two nationwide civil defense drills will help to prepare the public for the retaliation that Israel could face.
“Israel wants to know that if its forces were given the green light they could strike at Iran in a matter of days, even hours. They are making preparations on every level for this eventuality. The message to Iran is that the threat is not just words,” one senior defense official said

Officials believe that Israel could be required to hit more than a dozen targets, including moving convoys. The sites include Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges produce enriched uranium; Esfahan, where 250 tonnes of gas is stored in tunnels; and Arak, where a heavy water reactor produces plutonium.
The distance from Israel to at least one of the sites is more than 870 miles, a distance that the Israeli force practised covering in a training exercise last year that involved F15 and F16 jets, helicopters and refueling tankers.

The possible Israeli strike on Iran has drawn comparisons to its attack on the Osirak nuclear facility near Baghdad in 1981. That strike, which destroyed the facility in under 100 seconds, was completed without Israeli losses and checked Iraqi ambitions for a nuclear weapons program.
“We would not make the threat [against Iran] without the force to back it. There has been a recent move, a number of on-the-ground preparations, that indicate Israel's willingness to act,” said another official from Israel's intelligence community.

He added that it was unlikely that Israel would carry out the attack without receiving at least tacit approval from America, which has struck a more reconciliatory tone in dealing with Iran under its new administration.
An Israeli attack on Iran would entail flying over Jordanian and Iraqi airspace, where US forces have a strong presence.
Ephraim Kam, the deputy director of the Institute for National Security Studies, said it was unlikely that the Americans would approve an attack.
“The American defense establishment is unsure that the operation will be successful. And the results of the operation would only delay Iran's program by two to four years,” he said.

A visit by President Obama to Israel in June is expected to coincide with the national elections in Iran - timing that would allow the US Administration to re-evaluate diplomatic resolutions with Iran before hearing the Israeli position.
“Many of the leaks or statements made by Israeli leaders and military commanders are meant for deterrence. The message is that if [the international community] is unable to solve the problem they need to take into account that we will solve it our way,” Mr Kam said.
Among recent preparations by the airforce was the Israeli attack of a weapons convoy in Sudan bound for militants in the Gaza Strip.

“Sudan was practice for the Israeli forces on a long-range attack,” Ronen Bergman, the author of The Secret War with Iran, said. “They wanted to see how they handled the transfer of information, hitting a moving target ... In that sense it was a rehearsal.”
Israel has made public its intention to hold the largest-ever nationwide drill next month.
Colonel Hilik Sofer told Haaretz, a daily Israeli newspaper, that the drill would “train for a reality in which during war missiles can fall on any part of the country without warning ... We want the citizens to understand that war can happen tomorrow morning”.

Israel will conduct an exercise with US forces to test the ability of Arrow, its US-funded missile defense system. The exercise would test whether the system could intercept missiles launched at Israel.
“Israel has made it clear that it will not tolerate the threat of a nuclear Iran. According to Israeli Intelligence they will have the bomb within two years ... Once they have a bomb it will be too late, and Israel will have no choice to strike - with or without America,” an official from the Israeli Defense Ministry said, The Times reported.

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=30595

I hope they do plan to attack Iran and Iran rapes them bad.

[KanadaHye]

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I hope they do plan to attack Iran and Iran rapes them bad.

Without US support, Israel can't do much since they don't have the manpower. However, with the rising unemployment rates in the US, and the incentive of eliminating debt through joining the military, it shouldn't be too hard to increase American military support for a larger war.