Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

[arabaliozian]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

the word Nazi stands for National socialism.

Solzhenitsyn was a russian nationalist. one reason why he disliked armenians. that's the problem with natioanlists: they like only their own kind.

because the turks were infected with nationalism, they saw nothing wrong in massacring armenians.

nationalism is a disease. all great historians agree on that. and all nationalist historians are no better than propagandists for their nation.

fascism itself stands on 3 pillars: nationalism, anti-intellectualism, and anti-semitism.

[crusader1492]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

fascism itself stands on 3 pillars: nationalism, anti-intellectualism, and anti-semitism.

Why only "anti-semitism"? Do the xxxs have monopoly in the definition of fascism too?

Does this mean that Turkey can never be considered a fascist state as long as they exclude anti-semitism from their dogma?
Anti-Armenian, Kurd, Greek etc is OK though?

[crusader1492]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

the word Nazi stands for National socialism.

Solzhenitsyn was a russian nationalist. one reason why he disliked armenians. that's the problem with natioanlists: they like only their own kind.

But you are not a nationalist and you dislike Armenians too

[arabaliozian]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Friday, January 18, 2008
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“I love mankind,” Baronian once said, “but I hate men.” Born and raised in the Ottoman Empire, Baronian was in an excellent position to know that men are either executioners or victims, masters or slaves (Hegel), exploiters or workers (Marx); and the secret ambition of all underdogs is to be top dogs, exploiters, masters, or executioners. He also knew that when victims cannot victimize their executioners, they victimize one another. Baronian did not live long enough to be victimized by Turks, but he was betrayed to the Turkish police and victimized by his fellow Armenians.
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We love literature but we hate writers. No, not quite. If truth be told, it’s much worse. We don’t give a damn about writers and what we really hate is free speech. And we hate free speech because it threatens to expose us as potential executioners not of our enemies but fellow Armenians who dare to disagree with us. I speak from experience.
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Like all nations we have our share of skinheads, philistines, and hooligans, with one difference: they are now our masters. Or, in the words of a wiser man than myself: “Once upon a time we were slaves. We are now slaves of former slaves.”
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To silence someone whose sole intent is to share his understanding of reality is to choose to be on the side of executioners, assassins, and some of the worst serial killers in the history of mankind – Hitler and Stalin being two recent cases in point.
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To our hooligans I say: For once, reality is against you because we live on a continent where free speech happens to be a fundamental human right. You have two options: get out or stop reading, or if you can’t give up reading, read only chauvinist crapola, partisan editorials, and our dime-a-dozen Turcocentric pundits. But if you insist on reading me, it may be because deep down somewhere – assuming such depths exist – you find truth irresistible. Either that or you are fed up with your own lies which are not even yours but that of our crème de la scum parading as our crème de la crème.
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Only people who can’t tell the difference between literature and propaganda assert truth is on their side. Only fanatics who can’t tell the difference between god and the devil dare to assert god is on their side.
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[arabaliozian]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

fascism originated in europe.
i was talking about european fascism.

as for disliking armenians:
i dislike only fanatics, fools, charlatans, and dupes regardless of nationality.
if you feel i dislike you, it may be because you think you are one of them.
but for more on this subject, tomorrow.../ara

[Armenian]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

But you are not a nationalist and you dislike Armenians too

Nor is he a writer, or an intellectual, or an Armenian...

[HayotzAmrotz]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Originally Posted by arabaliozian the word Nazi stands for National socialism.

Read Nazi party's 25 point program and tell me how many times did you see word "socialism" in it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program
Yet despite that Nazis created the greatest social state of that time.
But just remember: First and foremost Nazi stands for "Deutschland über alles" (Germany above all).

Solzhenitsyn was a russian nationalist. one reason why he disliked armenians.

Do you have a concrete evidence to show that your above statement about Solzhenitsin and Armenians is true? ...And don't write the name of my nation with a small letter! I hope it was a one off innocent mistake otherwise you deserve to be completely ignored.

that's the problem with natioanlists: they like only their own kind.

Oh yeah, that is a real problem for all globalist, multicultural and God-less creatures out there because it doesn't suit their plans of creating a planet full of mongrels. Any Armenian that supports this globalist aim is supporting the enemies of our Nation and should be treated as a traitor.

because the turks were infected with nationalism, they saw nothing wrong in massacring armenians.

Love for your nation is no different to love for your family. Your nation is a larger version of your family or your family is a smaller version of your nation, whichever you prefer. One of the reasons for marrying your own kind is to make sure that your love goes completely to your nation rather than splits between two different races and/or ends up becoming a globalist family. So, you can't call love for your family an infection. If you do and seriously believe in that then you got no idea what family is.

Turks did what they had to do to hold on to the lands they have conquered, occupied and stolen centuries earlier. But our numerical disadvantage, and most importantly our unwillingness, a charcter trait developed as a result of 600 years of slavery, to do the same to them costet us our ancestoral lands and millions of deads. For every murdered Armenian there should have been at least 10 absolutely butchered, brutally murdered Turks. That's how the world is (was and always will be), that's how I see it, and I don't care if the world will call me "butcherer, murderer, enemy of humanity etc". I will do everything to protect my family/my nation and my house/my country.

nationalism is a disease. all great historians agree on that. and all nationalist historians are no better than propagandists for their nation.

Family and nationalism are unseparable, nationalism is the extension of ones family. If you call that "a disease" than you are a demented pervert with no real values whatsoever and so are all those "great historians" who are not even worth the dust on the sandals of Movses Khorenatsi.

fascism itself stands on 3 pillars: nationalism, anti-intellectualism, and anti-semitism.

Provide proof of anti-intellectualism in Nazism.

[Sip]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Love for your nation is no different to love for your family.

I've never heard of anyone going over and killing the family living next door because he or she loved his own family.

[HayotzAmrotz]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

I've never heard of anyone going over and killing the family living next door because he or she loved his own family.

If that family next door attacks my family for whatever reason then I will defend myself and do everything I can to protect my family, including killing the attackers if that is necessary to stop them. I'm not the attacker, I'm not the one that eyes someone elses property, daughter etc. I'm living my life and loving my own without disrespecting the one next door.

[arabaliozian]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Saturday, January 19, 2008
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Hagop Baronian (1842-1891): “Truth is a language that if not spoken is forgotten.”
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Derenik Demirjian (1877-1956): “Every Armenian has another Armenian whom he considers his mortal enemy.”
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Shahan Shahnour (1904-1974): “For my generation of Armenians, the enemy is not the Turk but us.”
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The pen is mightier than the sword? Our writers and poets were Talaat's and Stalin’s first victims.
“Writers are the architects of the soul,” one of our bosses once said to me and I believed him, until I read a similar statement by Stalin.
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We are all born dupes but inevitably we run across another dupe who stands in direct contradiction to us. At which point we wonder: How can anyone be so wrong and so sure of himself? What if he is right and I am wrong? What if we are both wrong? Why would anyone lie to us?
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We either believe our politicians or our writers. I am not saying all writers speak the truth and all politicians are compulsive and habitual liars. What I am suggesting is that, when it comes to lying, politicians are better at it because they have had more practice.
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I don’t write against Armenians. I write against charlatans and dupes. Only readers who can’t tell the difference between one and the other accuse me of being anti-Armenian.
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Shirvanzadeh (Alexander Movsessian: 1858-1935): “The narrow partisan propaganda line that is espoused by our press is the enemy of all literature.”
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Siamanto (Adom Yerjanian: 1878-1915): “Our perennial enemy – the enemy that will eventually destroy us – is not the Turks but our own complacent superficiality.”
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Hagop Garabents (Jack Karapetian: 1925-1996): “Once upon a time we fought and shed our blood for freedom. We are now afraid of free speech.”
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