Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

[Armenian]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

I'm enjoying this. More you engage this senile character the nuttier he gets Keep it up Ara, the only thing you are excelling at is making yourself out to be a total fool. And the funniest part is that you don't realize just how stupid, how ignorant you sound... I am glad, nonetheless, that the public can now see you for what you really are.

[crusader1492]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

If you are an armenian, you have nothing to fear but your friends. / ara

Armenians lived and worked amongst Turks pre-1915...I'm sure they considered many of them "friends".

[crusader1492]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

I'm enjoying this. More you engage this senile character the nuttier he gets Keep it up Ara, the only thing you are excelling at is making yourself out to be a total fool. And the funniest part is that you don't realize just how stupid, how ignorant you sound... I am glad, nonetheless, that the public can now see you for what you really are.

Amazing, isn't it? He has labeled those who refrain from posting their identity online as cowards and then he expounds on this by saying that if there were more cowards back in 1915, the Genocide would not have happened.

The man finds virtue in cowardice.

Can this man hate Armenians anymore than he already does now? Actually, the better question would be: Can he hate himself anymore than he does now?

[crusader1492]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Is Ara Baliozian Armenian?

Not according to the author of this poem below (English translation)...still as true today as it was 153 years ago.


Who is an Armenian? Is he the one who speaks in Armenian?
Or whose name ends with the suffix ian?
The one who always eats dolma, pilav for lunch
Or proudly always wears Armenian attire and hat? 

Who is an Armenian, is he the one who attends an Armenian Church
And goes to confession at least four times a year?
That has never ignored the lent and also fasts during that
And when he yawns he crosses his open mouth? 

No, my dear, nationhood is not an external act
Not even your Armenian birth will give you that right...
If you are an Armenian, you must respect the Armenians for sure,
Armenia for you must be the star of hope... 

Love your nation not by words but as you love yourself,
For her sake if necessary, sacrifice all your self,
Don’t even save your life, give your blood to her
Not with the hope that your nation instantly will appreciate you.


- Rafael Patkanyan, 1855

[HayotzAmrotz]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

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[HayotzAmrotz]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Is Ara Baliozian Armenian?

Not according to the author of this poem below (English translation)...still as true today as it was 153 years ago.


Who is an Armenian? Is he the one who speaks in Armenian?
Or whose name ends with the suffix ian?
The one who always eats dolma, pilav for lunch
Or proudly always wears Armenian attire and hat? 

Who is an Armenian, is he the one who attends an Armenian Church
And goes to confession at least four times a year?
That has never ignored the lent and also fasts during that
And when he yawns he crosses his open mouth? 

No, my dear, nationhood is not an external act
Not even your Armenian birth will give you that right...
If you are an Armenian, you must respect the Armenians for sure,
Armenia for you must be the star of hope... 

Love your nation not by words but as you love yourself,
For her sake if necessary, sacrifice all your self,
Don’t even save your life, give your blood to her
Not with the hope that your nation instantly will appreciate you.


- Rafael Patkanyan, 1855

Apres crusader jan!

Chisht teghin beretzir Patkanyani poem@
Togh koren groghi tzotz@ ais ashkhari "araner@"

[arabaliozian]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Thursday, January 24, 2008
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FROGS
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Speaking of our revolutionaries, one of our elder statesmen once compared them to “frogs trying to rape an elephant.”
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Save the nation? Part the Red Sea? Change water to wine? Raise the brain-dead? I leave these things to better men than myself. I write. That’s the only thing I do because that’s what all writers, including our own, have always done. I write to express my thoughts and sentiments as honestly and objectively as I can. Let others do what they will with them.
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Where honesty and objectivity are equated with self-hatred and betrayal, free speech will be violated in the name of God and Country.
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To say my country, right or wrong, is less nationalism and more narcissism, and as such, less ideology and more pathology.
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Our pundits are more interested in settling old scores than in the welfare of the nation. Perhaps because, in Einstein’s words: “The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them.” Or, frogs cannot solve problems created by elephants.
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Instead of trying to solve problems created by others, let us begin with problems created by us, such as: respecting one another’s fundamental human right of free speech, engaging in dialogue, and developing a consensus. I wonder why is it that these problems are ignored by our “betters.” Is it because they don’t require any capital investment and no letters that end with their favorite mantra, “mi kich pogh…”
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[arabaliozian]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

when we say "Armenia" do we mean the mountains and rivers?
the people and the culture?
the regime of arav pakhavs?
the hoodlums who speak in her name?
the pathological cowards who are afraid to identify themselves?

[crusader1492]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

when we say "Armenia" do we mean the mountains and rivers?
the people and the culture?
the regime of arav pakhavs?
the hoodlums who speak in her name?
the pathological cowards who are afraid to identify themselves?

The answer to you 1st & 2nd question is YES...you can also add language to that.
As for your 3rd question...are you talking about yourself, Ara? Because all you try to do is steal away pride and self-respect from the Armenian nation. Perhaps you do this because misery loves company?

...and your 4th question: For the third time - shame on you.

[arabaliozian]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Friday, January 25, 2008
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DEFINING FASCISM
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One reason why I write about our problems is that I don’t know much about Eskimo and Patagonian problems. As for Canadian problems: once, when I dared to say something on the subject, I was told to go back where I came from. That put an abrupt end to my career as a Canadian critic.
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We are all born fascists. But whenever we confront another fascist unwilling to relinquish his infallibility, we are given an opportunity to reconsider our political convictions.
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I once asked a Turcocentric pundit if he had read a single Armenian writers and he said he had not, after which he advised me to write more about Turkish atrocities. I didn’t ask him to define patriotism, but if I had, my guess is he would have said “hatred of Turks,” which may suggest there is more Ottomanism and less Armenianism in his worldview.
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Bad things happen to good people because when bad people do bad things to bad people, they don’t give a damn about collateral damage. That’s how Turks see the Genocide – as collateral damage, which is something that happens in every war, beginning with Homer’s ILIAD.
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We have a better chance to reach a consensus with the Turks if we tell them, we understand why they did what they did and we would like them to understand us when we say what they did was not right.
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Our bosses, bishops, and benefactors are convinced they are saying what must be said and doing what must be done, and they resent usurpers like me who try to muscle in their territory.
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It would be a mistake to underestimate the power of our hoodlums. They may seem to be a harmless and non-representative minority, but all they need to become a murderous majority is someone like Hitler and Stalin.
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“Hoodlumism in the name of patriotism,” is as good a definition of fascism as any.
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