Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

[Virgil]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Please the three of you move to Armenia, like yesterday. They need you, badly. Hopefully, they'll give you a rifle and marching orders.

What have the three of you done for Armenia and Armenian people beyond your parents making a donation. Enlighten us. Illuminate your contributions to Hai Tahd.

When have I claimed to be "super Armenian" ... hmm ... maybe that is what you fail to see? My entire point has been in total agreement with your "feelings". Let me ask you, how many Americans donate money to the United States government outside of paying taxes? I would wager not even 1% of the Americans will donate money towards the government. My only objective has been to defend values. This is what nationalism is about, the state over anything else, essentially, your lifetime spent in the United States means that any progress you make for yourself, by default, is a progress for the state. You get married and have a family, you increase the population and pass down values. You get a education, you further the development of various spheres and deciplines. You eat, you pay another man for food. You work, your taxes go towards the state. You deficate, someone is paid to clean up your defication. The bottomline is, when you reside in a state, you provide the state with the tools to further its interests. It all boils down to elementary statistics. The Chinese have 1.5 billion in population, which means that, their top 20% intelligence comprises the entire United states population. You can replace the entire United States with Chinemen with a above average intelligence. Everything is a numbers game.

Furthermore, you have to agree that Ara's immature antics would be considered unpatriotic and borderline offensive if you were to replace Armenian with American. The problem is just this my friend, you have been mentally conditioned by these demagogues into buying their propaganda of self-hate. The reality is that 100% of Ara's stance is offensive to any Armenian, but due to what ever reason, most find it "tolerable", maybe that is what you fail to understand? Again, no one is asking you to "donate money" or "fight wars", but for the love of God, defend some Armenian values, traditions, and history. What is the point of debating the "flaws" of Armenian leaders when history is never experienced but read? Meaning, whoever that controls the pen, controls what we read and therefore, at the core of any historical fact, is historical bias. Really, I could care less if the nationalist were napoleons or pawns, the reality is that today, we have a state, and today, it is in the unwritten laws of statehood to blow up previous leaders as heroes in order to preserve nationalistic feelings.

And one more thing, the fundimental backbone of western political thought stems from Machiavelli and even he admitted that leadership has limits and the limitations are determined by the oppurtunities that a leader my encounter on his path towards "virtu" (virtue). What does that mean? Well, you read it and let me know, maybe I will tell you one of these days, but to be honest, I have had it to my neck with these demagogues, Ara to Stephan to "Jack Kevorkian", you want to play sculptor, please, go do it somewhere else.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Please the three of you move to Armenia, like yesterday. They need you, badly. Hopefully, they'll give you a rifle and marching orders.

What have the three of you done for Armenia and Armenian people beyond your parents making a donation. Enlighten us. Illuminate your contributions to Hai Tahd.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Apparently, Crusader1492 and Armenian fought for our first Republic of the 20th century or they have a Ph.D. in Modern Armenian history.

[crusader1492]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

OK stupid, I have had enough of this stupidity, bye-bye

I think this whack job is having a meltdown.

[crusader1492]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Really, our freedom fighters didn't establish a free and independent Armenian state in 1920. Parties to the Sevres treaty did.

If Armenian rifles created a nation in the early 20th century, then I inquire were there any signatories of our Armenian leaders on the document that created our nation?

Yes, between 1917 and 1920, freedom fighters fought against both Ottoman and Bolshevik rule and rifles were involved. These people were fighting for survival and to protect their property and family.

This is a perfect example of where "hate speech" is useful. You see, when someone keeps up such a shameful and indefensible argument in the name of self-righteous conceit...well you get my point. Why belabor it...not only are you an creep, but you are an f'd up moron too.

Oh and btw, if you think you have upset me, you did not. I would only get upset if I thought you were worth a damn.

[Armenian]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Really, our freedom fighters didn't establish a free and independent Armenian state in 1920. Parties to the Sevres treaty did.

OK stupid, I have had enough of this stupidity, bye-bye

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

You may have been conditioned, but I have not.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

No, I was taught that rule of the Roman Empire was handed over to us on the battlefield.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Mr. Gorbachev, tear down these walls!!!

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Happy Birthday Ara Baliozian!

Really, our freedom fighters didn't establish a free and independent Armenian state in 1920. Parties to the Sevres treaty did.

If Armenian rifles created a nation in the early 20th century, then I inquire were there any signatories of our Armenian leaders on the document that created our nation?

Yes, between 1917 and 1920, freedom fighters fought against both Ottoman and Bolshevik rule and rifles were involved. These people were fighting for survival and to protect their property and family.