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  • #21
    Isn't it that rectangular box of numbers set out by rows and columns?
    Achkerov kute.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Anonymouse Isn't it that rectangular box of numbers set out by rows and columns?

      Ding ding ding ! Yes it is, if I was giving out prizes you would surely deserve one.

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      • #23
        Darn! Now I wish you were giving out prizes.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #24
          This is for those who dont understand the true being of Neo, and some of my thoughts.

          First of all, Neo is NOT created by the architecht, I mean he is becuase hes generated by machines in the fields, but, he has a diversion which causes fluctuations in the matrix, and the architecht describes it as: "the result of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix", thus that means that the equation can be printed in anyone, so anyone is a potential one, the one who figures it out can manipulate the equation for his bennefits in our case: Neo.

          About Neo being human, thats a question that many people are discussing, Neo is infact human IMO, becuase, when Smith fights him in the grand finale, he asks:

          Why get up, why get up when you know youre gonna fail, when you know there is no point, no purpose.
          Neo sums up the whole idea of the movie in 4 words:

          "Becuase I Choose To"

          He states the freedom of choice, and refuses to think that his life are a basic pattern of action and reaction.
          This was also reffered in the first movie when Morpheus asks Neo:

          Do you believe in fate Neo?

          Neo answeres "No"
          "Why not?"

          He answeres "Becuase I dont like the idea that I'm not in control in my own life"

          Based on these facts I believe Neo is human.


          My thoughts on the final battle, Smith and the Oracle:

          Just like Smith was created to balance the equation of the one, the Oracle was created to balance the Architect's equation, they share the same power, thats why Smith laughs when he takes over the Oreacle's body, becuase that was the moment that he gained the full control in the Matrix.
          The Architect allows Neo to enter and stop Smith becuase "The program Smith has grown beyond your control"
          thats because as soon as he has the Oracle's body in his possesion he can see into the future, hence he foresees tha battle against Neo, and he sees his victory, one more explanation for why he laughes if you will.
          Thats also why he fights Neo with only one Smith, becuase he knows hes gonna win.

          Here comes the very very very important part of choice and
          "We can never see past the choices we dont understand"
          the Oracle says that no one can see beyond it, not even Smith with all his power.
          Hence when Smith is facing Neo at the very end of the battle he says
          "Wait I've seen this moment, I've seen you down on the floor like that and I said something, what did I say?"

          Then he chooses the phrase"

          "Everything that has a beginning has an end"

          But right after that he says
          "No thats not right, I'm not supposed to say that"

          He doesnt understand his choice, thus he never saw beyond that choice that he didnt understand, and never saw Neo getting up, thats why hes afraid of Neo.

          At the end Neo states "What are you afraid of?"
          Smith answeres "This wasnt supposed to be like this"

          And then Neo understands that he cant defeat Smith, he understands that Smith was right all along.

          "It was inevitable"
          When Smith changes Neo into another Smith, Neo's equation dissapears, hence Smith which is supposed to balance him is no longer needed, so he's destroyed, and the reason the Oracle is the only one left is becuase she represents the Architect, and she is needed for the survival of the Matrix, she cant be destroyed, becuase if she will, so will the Architecht and thsu endning the Matrix.

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          • #25
            wow. good explanation

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            • #26
              You've pretty much summed up all my thoughts...

              My theory was... When the Smith-Oracle says, "Everything that has a beginning has an end", meaning the one is supposed to die, Neo knew he had to give up his life, realising the true reason of his existence. Killing himself only killed the Smiths. Meaning that they HAD a connection, and if that connection severed, then he would die too.

              But your idea's are pretty good =)

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              • #27
                The only thing we learned is that the french are a pain in the ass even in the future.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by patlajan The only thing we learned is that the french are a pain in the ass even in the future.
                  LOL! Fair assumption...

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                  • #29
                    the 1st one was ok, the 2nd one was GOod, the 3rd one SUCKED i didnt get the 3rd one, I loved the twins !!!

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by HaMoVik the 1st one was ok, the 2nd one was GOod, the 3rd one SUCKED i didnt get the 3rd one, I loved the twins !!!
                      If you don't know what it was about, read a page before this...

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