Where The $$$ Is...

[KanadaHye]

Re: Where The $$$ Is...

The real money is in human trafficing/sex trade... arms/drug dealing. But if you don't have your hand in the crooked money pot and want to make legitimate money then buckle down for the ride because pimping yourself out isn't easy. The future will be in the green/alternate energy fields. You can always find a decent job working in a nuclear power plant like Homer Simpson and run the risk of growing an extra limb or glowing in the dark

[KanadaHye]

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ddd - I think you're missing the point. For starters, your example is erroneous because neither of the jobs you listed is really what is considered working with kids. I highly doubt that throwing food on a plate, or fixing teeth for a living is what they have in mind. Someone who likes to work with kids is either going to be a youth social worker, or a teacher, or a day care attendant, or a babysitter, etc. Something involved with directly interaction with kids, or impacting their lives on a day-to-day basis. IF they don't mind doing ANY of those jobs, than I can understand exploring the best field financially. But to jump from that, to your example of becoming an orthodontist because you like "working with kids" is beyond a far stretch since the profession itself really has nothing to do with working with kids.

Secondly, the Armenians I speak of are not looking to merely "provide for their family". This has nothing to do with being responsible, or any other psuedo-noble cause you want to attribute. I'm talking about the Armenians that want to "make bank". Siggie said earlier in this thread that $75k - $100k/yr isn't considered bank. Perhaps not (though that's subjective). Regardless, if a person can't survive off of $75k+/yr VERY comfortably, WITH a decent chunk of change left over every month, then you're not looking to just "provide for the family". You're looking to spend on over the top luxuries in life. These people want to be able to blow $100 per person at some obscenely expensive restaurant, even though it's all going to end up in the same place as a meal from Chili's in a few hours (the toilet). They want to afford the high end Beamers, or drive a giant SUV, even though there's only one or 2 people in it at a time. JCPenny, or Kohl's isn't good enough for their wardrobe, they need to buy $2k suits, $200 dress shirts etc. from Nordstrom's (or even higher end stores), even though each one is going to be worn once or twice a month at most. There is absolutely NO purpose for wasting money on the above mentioned things other than spending lavishly for sheer status symbol and extravagance. Which brings us to the most important point you missed.

Armenians constantly talk about how it is our Christian faith that has held our identity together for centuries. It is how we got through the Ottoman curse, and how we survive and thrive no matter where we end up globally. Everything is centered around our Christian faith. However, it appears that Armenians are all talk. Are you all forgetting that Jesus told you to live humbly? That it is very difficult for the "well off" to make it passed heaven's gates? Are you forgetting that to desire worldly/material possessions is a sin? I get condemned by most Armenians for being atheist, but I assure you, from what I've witnessed, read and heard, I live my life far more "morally" (by Bible standards) than the VAST majority of Christians that I've meet. Armenians can talk the talk, but when it comes time to walk the walk by following all the rules established by their lord, they're quick to forget about their Christian faith, and become as petty, greedy and materialistic as their Western counterpart consumerist wh*re nations.

AMEN

Jesus was a carpenter... you want to provide your family, build a freaking roof over their head, throw a couple fish and a loaf of bread on the table. Armenians are starting to remind me of the sevs in the ghetto who drive beamers/mercedes and park it on the lawn of their crack house. And lets face it, the only reason most can afford to do so is because of daddy's money or you're 30 something and still live at home. Not that there is anything wrong with living at home(preserves culture and identity) but, blowing all of your money on your designer clothes and beemers will never get you anywhere in life let alone give you the ability to provide for your family. If 75K-100K isn't considered bank then everyone better start learning how to rob banks because it's not easy to make that kind of money legitimitely anymore. Oh yeah, might even be to late to rob banks because they are even going bankrupt these days.

[gmd]

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ddd -
Regardless, if a person can't survive off of $75k+/yr VERY comfortably, WITH a decent chunk of change left over every month, then you're not looking to just "provide for the family".

I am really not a materialistic person. If anything in some respects I am the opposite. Living in S.California on the amt you show above and raising 3 kids does not leave any kind of decent chunk in the bank. Maybe some indecent change at best. I guess I need to take up pimpin to make some chunk to put away.

[gmd]

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The future will be in the green/alternate energy fields.

Massive unemployment and worldwide depression is the greenest solution of all!

[KanadaHye]

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I am really not a materialistic person. If anything in some respects I am the opposite. Living in S.California on the amt you show above and raising 3 kids does not leave any kind of decent chunk in the bank. Maybe some indecent change at best. I guess I need to take up pimpin to make some chunk to put away.

I agree, 75K-100K wouldn't be enough for a family of 5. I hope those kids are almost old enough to start paper routes, cutting lawns or bus'ing tables. Or dare I say you best be pimpin' out the wife

[gmd]

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I agree, 75K-100K wouldn't be enough for a family of 5. I hope those kids are almost old enough to start paper routes, cutting lawns or bus'ing tables. Or dare I say you best be pimpin' out the wife

I'll take the last part as a bad joke and not overreact.

Kids are still young but they keep busy and have a value not measured in dollars.

[One-Way]

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I am really not a materialistic person. If anything in some respects I am the opposite. Living in S.California on the amt you show above and raising 3 kids does not leave any kind of decent chunk in the bank. Maybe some indecent change at best. I guess I need to take up pimpin to make some chunk to put away.

I agree.

$75,000 (after taxes) leaves you with $6,250 a month. In Southern California, it will be extremely difficult to provide for a family with that amount. That's not to mention, two kids or as gmd said, three.

Your mortgage/rent alone will take away half your monthly earnings. That's also not including bills, food, etc. $80,000 is close to nothing these days; you may make do, of course, I'm not saying it's impossible. However, it's going to be very, very difficult to live a "comfortable life" with decent change left over every month.

Just my opinion.

[KanadaHye]

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I'll take the last part as a bad joke and not overreact.

Kids are still young but they keep busy and have a value not measured in dollars.

There are no bad jokes, just bad comedians

[KanadaHye]

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I agree.

$75,000 (after taxes) leaves you with $6,250 a month.

I've got a Bachelors in Engineering and the only way I can see myself making that kind of money (after taxes) is by working 60 hrs a week. Been there... done that when I first started. I don't call that living, I call it slavery.

[One-Way]

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I've got a Bachelors in Engineering and the only way I can see myself making that kind of money (after taxes) is by working 60 hrs a week. Been there... done that when I first started. I don't call that living, I call it slavery.

Oh well.

First, I obviously disagree with a certain career you can "choose" which makes you "$$$."

Second, the cost of living is rapidly rising. I can't begin to imagine what I'm looking at, price-wise, if I live away from home in the fall. A single bedroom apartment typically goes for $1,000 a month. Are you kidding me? Now flash forward to real life, $6,250 a month, with a family of four. Bring in the bills and now you're in a tight pickle.

Money left over. Pft.