pari kisher and kisher pari

[omniscient]

I've noticed that both of these are used by different types of armenians. Why do some armenians say kisher pari and some say pari kisher (which i think is the right way since kisher means night and it's supposed to come second).

[Anonymouse]

I use 'chari gisher' personally. Just a better ring to it.

[xBaron Dants]

Re: pari kisher and kisher pari

Originally posted by omniscient I've noticed that both of these are used by different types of armenians. Why do some armenians say kisher pari and some say pari kisher (which i think is the right way since kisher means night and it's supposed to come second).

Kisher pari is mostly said in arevmdahayeren, while bari gisher is the standard for arevelahayeren. Why? I have noooo idea.

But arevmdahays usually sau
person1: Kisher Pari
person2: Looys pari
person1: anoosh koon, pari yeraz.

some sort of tradition I guess..

[patlajan]

I usualy say kisher pari. I've never heard anyone say it the opposite way around. I'll start using it and see people's reactions.

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by patlajan I usualy say kisher pari. I've never heard anyone say it the opposite way around. I'll start using it and see people's reactions.

Ya, it's out of habit. If you think about it, pari kisher makes more sense as it is the adjective followed by the noun.

It's kind of like saying : doon keghetsig

Keghetsig doon sounds much better.

Anywho, I use both now, depending on what mood I'm in...lol

[xBaron Dants]

Also, arevmdahays, like arevelahays say Pari Looys (or Bari looys) in the morning. So the switch only occurs at night.....how odd, how very, very odd..

[Emil]

I am persian-armenian and I say bari gisher. Baron, explain to me the definition of arevmdahays and arevelahayeren.


Thanks,
Emil

[patlajan]

Originally posted by Baron Dants Ya, it's out of habit. If you think about it, pari kisher makes more sense as it is the adjective followed by the noun.

It's kind of like saying : doon keghetsig

Keghetsig doon sounds much better.

Anywho, I use both now, depending on what mood I'm in...lol

You mean the verb not the adjective right?

[jahannam]

patlajan, he meant adjective.
but you bring up an interesting point.
now that I think about it, the "pari" in kisher pari MIGHT be a verb.
I dunno if this makes sense, but it might mean something like "hoosam kishert lav/pari gnes gam ge parelavess" or something like that.
I don't know, so don't be bashing me now lol
I'm gonna have to ask a hayakidootyoon student.
I'll keep you guys updated.
cuz as baron pointed out... pari as far as we know, is an adjective. and in grammar (western AND eastern), the adjective always comes first.
nice thread omni!

[SexyAries]

I've always said Bari Gisher, mostly because im Hayastanci so i guess i havnt herd otherwise. I never even new that paxpaxak ment ice cream till i was about 12 years old i would always say marozjni.