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Originally posted by Dan patlajan, i am talking about the idea of laws, not the law in itself..
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I have never read or heard anyone claim that Jesus invented law. That's not what we're talking about. -
ok...Originally posted by patlajan I have never read or heard anyone claim that Jesus invented law. That's not what we're talking about.
The foundation for our laws today [...] are based on his teachings.Comment
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What's your point? When I say "our" laws I mean western and other predominantly christian nations. I don't mean the whole world. And that doesn't mean Jesus invented the idea of law.Comment
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Jesus, or the idea of a "savior" was copied from many religions in that region. Christianity is not the first nor last religion to proclaim the death and rebirth of the savior. The symbolism and allegory are prevalent in all religions.
If looked within the context of the times, Christianity as a reform movement within Phariseeism, was a unifying force for the Hebrews, a "savior" to withstand the Roman Empire, and ultimately killed.
In any event, there really is no evidence, from a scientific standpoint that "Jesus" existed, however we take it on faith, much like we take on faith that the sun will rise tomorrow.Achkerov kute.Comment
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While the idea of a "messiah" is nothing new, the influence of Jesus is undeniable.Originally posted by Anonymouse Jesus, or the idea of a "savior" was copied from many religions in that region. Christianity is not the first nor last religion to proclaim the death and rebirth of the savior. The symbolism and allegory are prevalent in all religions.
If looked within the context of the times, Christianity as a reform movement within Phariseeism, was a unifying force for the Hebrews, a "savior" to withstand the Roman Empire, and ultimately killed.
In any event, there really is no evidence, from a scientific standpoint that "Jesus" existed, however we take it on faith, much like we take on faith that the sun will rise tomorrow.Comment
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I don't know if I would call it influence, since no one seems to be following what the man said, even during its inception.Originally posted by patlajan While the idea of a "messiah" is nothing new, the influence of Jesus is undeniable.Achkerov kute.Comment
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Where everybody knew his name and they were all so glad he came...Originally posted by Arvestaked Jesus lived his life in a cheap hotel on the edge of Route 66.
I wonder if Jesus was a good cook, he did make some good wine out of his blood, the question is was it Merlot or Cabernet Sauvignon? I guess it's one of those history's mysteries we will never know...
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Maybe. But there would also be no standard to judge by. Our definition of a "good person" comes from his teachings. It is something to strive for, atleast there's that.Originally posted by Anonymouse I don't know if I would call it influence, since no one seems to be following what the man said, even during its inception.Comment
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Really? Jesus wasn't the only one that preached about love and respect and humility. All the major religions in their core, preach the same thing using different criteria, but the underlying symbolism and allegory is still the same, for example the theme of the serpet symbolism is prevalent throughout all cultures in their religions, the theme of a savior dying for sins and being resurrected, another core of Mithraism, which was popular in ancient Persia and Armenia.Originally posted by patlajan Maybe. But there would also be no standard to judge by. Our definition of a "good person" comes from his teachings. It is something to strive for, atleast there's that.Achkerov kute.Comment
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as far as history's concerned though, the teaching of "love each other" first comes up with Jesus.
I think he was pretty smart and fair and a good teacher too.
there's GOTTA be something about him, that after 2 millenniums ALL these people still worship him!
I dunno
I'm not a hardcore christian, but sometimes when i think about all the good old emperors and philosophers and politicians who accepted AND encouraged people to believe him, all the battles that have been fought FOR him...all these churches and artwork about his life.
pretty crazy.
he wouldn't last this long if he wasn't real.Comment
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