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Originally posted by Anonymouse The "date" for "Xmas" is at best a guess and wrong. The "Xmas tree" is a pagan symbol. There are many saviors prior to "Christ" born on Dec "25". Santa is a consumer symbol, not a Christian symbol.
I think the myth of Xmas has been shattered.
"Christianity" takes on many myths legends and icons of previous pagan religions and call it its own. Anyone who is familiar with the diverse pagan religions and cultures of antiquity surely understands this, as your article pointed out. One can argue that Jesus is like Mithra in many ways.
Now what pisses me off more is gift giving. I don't want anything, nor should I have to feel obligated to get you anything. Thank you.
Did you read anything at all clearly? I said that thank you for stating the obvious. The exact date of Christ s birth IS NOT PINPOINTED ANYWHERE. Yes, it is all based upon pagan myth or better yet it is all derived from there. Buddha is similar to Jesus as well. Point? Does not matter. The truth is what these people do not know is that what they are celebrating really is a DUTCH and earlier Mesopotamian myth.
Originally posted by Nimrod Did you read anything at all clearly? I said that thank you for stating the obvious. The exact date of Christ s birth IS NOT PINPOINTED ANYWHERE. Yes, it is all based upon pagan myth or better yet it is all derived from there. Buddha is similar to Jesus as well. Point? Does not matter. The truth is what these people do not know is that what they are celebrating really is a DUTCH and earlier Mesopotamian myth.
I'm of the persuasion that all "myths" have some truth to it, in time immemorial, such as the serpent cult.
Actually it is not related to Christmas but i wanted to share with you anyway...
After reading a book called For The Love of Philae i was convinced that even paganism can be a righteous religion if the faith is strong...
I strongly encourage all of you to read the book. The book is about how do people feel when their land is invaded and they are forced to convert to another religion and a struggle to keep the faith. It's amazing.
Synopsis
The story of the island priestess Isis who withstood Christianity and preserved the ancient mysteries It's the 6th century A.D. and Christianity has been imposed throughout Egypt. On the holy island of Philae, off the southern coast, the last community faithful to the old ways struggles against the invader and continues in active worship in its temple. Isis, leader of the community, is determined that their ideals will not die out. She embarks upon an unequal struggle against the all-powerful bishop Theodore to preserve the ancient mysteries. With the help of Sabni, who is bound to her by an everlasting love, Isis succeeds in restoring confidence to the followers. However, from north to south, dangers rise up to threaten the temple's existence. For the love of Philae, the fate of a thousand-year-old faith is at stake.
How can u not celebrate Christmas? It's the most beautiful time of the year, when people put aside all their petty family differences, and get together for a special celebration of the birth of Christ. I do believe it has strayed away from its purpose a little because of the commercialization of this, as well as all holidays, but the people who DO celebrate with a pure heart, they are the true believers.
Originally posted by Arvestaked The birth of a fantastical turd is nothing to be celebrated. I hate gift-giving; I do not want them and I do not buy them.
You know, aside from my best friend, you're the only one who agrees with me on this.
Originally posted by Arvestaked The birth of a fantastical turd is nothing to be celebrated. I hate gift-giving; I do not want them and I do not buy them. And for many christmases, we set aside our family differences and spent 4 hours together quitely hating eachother and not apprectiating the stupid gifts that were given. It is not a beautiful season; it is disgusting. It is not just commercialized: it is a feelinng that has been preyed upon by corporations and as been raped, ripped and twisted it to a meaningless celebration of the stupidities of man. The only thing good about it is that it takes me less time to go to work because everyone is at home being warm and fuzzy in the metaphorical dumbass blanket.
I think I am going to make a nativity scene. That will be fun.
I like Easter better. It is the most surreal Holiday: death, rising dead halucinations, eggs, rabbits. Celebrating the death of a fantastical turd is more to my liking.
U know, it's one thing to talks xxxx about differences in political views, or merely talk xxxx to eachother...but it's another to call Jesus a "fantastical turd". R u serious? I mean how much of a lost soul are u that u have to say that? U just offended me more with that statement than ANYONE has every done > EVER! I know this forum is all fun and games, but there must be a line drawn somewhere....that's just NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT right.. Jesus Christ brings comfort and joy to many many people (including myself). Think what u want about him, u don't even have to believe that he exists, but DON'T resort to dragging his name through the mud like u did. I mean, what are u thinking? I'm so sick of u synical, negative people, bringing the rest of us down. Let us believe what we want! Why do u care so much about what I believe?
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