Punishing our kids!

[jahannam]

nice thread.
Baron you're exaggerating...
Jamharian you're exaggerating...
talking doesn't help AT ALL TIMES...
beating ALL THE TIME doesn't help either.
somewhere in the middle is the answer.
I've ben yelled at when I was a kid, as a lot of you people.
but at times, I've also been beaten. nothing to the extreme.. just some slapping on the face.
and whats wrong with me now?
Nothing...
it's made me a better disciplined person if anything...
discipline is a huge factor in a person's character.
although it's hurt at times, it's made me a better person. and I love my parents. and I respect em for how they raised me. and I plan on doing the same to my kids.
hopefully i'll be away from the U.S. of A by then.
stupid "child abuse" crap... ahhh don't get me started.
I sometimes feel like slapping kids who disobey their parents at the mall. I swear. kids are WAAAY too spoiled these days.
you're gonna call me a "menendez"... be my guest... I'd rather be called that, than have my kids doing drugs at 11...

[xBaron Dants]

Well in my own case, I am not exaggerating. I have NEVER been slapped or hit by my parents in my whole life. It is a strategy that has worked with my brother and I, and that I believe would work with many more children.

That said, I am not one of those people who will scream out "child abuse" if I see a parent hitting a child (REASONABLY).

As you said, a mix of both may be the perfect answer...

[sSsflamesSs]

I will not be using physical force when disciplining my future children, is what I have to say about the topic.

[Anonymouse]

Marijuana is a drug obviously. I've used it occasionally for recreational purposes. Tylenol is a drug. Why do we say this one drug is good because it is legal, yet the other one is bad because it is illegal? Nyquil, Tylenol, Advil, etc., are all drugs which go into your body, and settle around your cell walls. They are toxins. You can overdose on these drugs. In fact alcohol is far more harmful to your body, than marijuana ever is. The differences are in degree, not in kind.

More importantly, it is important for us to ask why these children are moving more and more towards drugs. What is it in their material lives that they are lacking in their spirit? Not enough parental interest in their lives? Lack of spiritual satisfication? What drives them to these ends? We should be asking questions first before attempting to solve anything.

I personally will not use physical force to discipline a child. After a semester of psychology, in the issue of child rearing, I really agree with the humanists.

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by TigranJamharian kids need a beating now and then to understand whats good for them. i have realized that my morals have deteriorated and overall i have slowly become to want more and more ever since i came to this damn liberalized country. When i have kids they are going to get beatings for
1) speaking any other language other than Armenian in the house unless the person they are speaking to doesnt speak Armenian
2) stealing anything- i dont think this will happen but if it does they will get beaten
3) disrespecting any elders--- severe beating for this one
4) ever fighting with their siblings-- definately, they need to understand that they have noone closer than family
5) any drug use of any kind--- i cant even begin to describe what they will get for this
6) talking back, rolling eyes...----
7) Ever saying anything against Armenia or not devoting themselves to their country--- dont htink this will happen but they will get the xxxx beaten out of them
8) for any girls i might have- you will get a severe beating for having sex before marriage, ........ for any boys--------severe beating if they are a virgin by age of 18... just joking .. only joking about the boys
9)Marrying a non Armenian----------ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
10) disrespecting any family members or not being obedient--- beating


anyway i will add more to the list. i approve of beatings

I'm worried about your kids. Why would you want to beat them if they disrespect elders? This is one of the things I disagree with, that we have to automatically give respect to elders just because they are old. I won't. What have they done for me? Have they earned my respect? Not always that age comes wisdom.

[TJ]

it doesnt matter what comes with age the simple fact is that they are old they are in the last stages of their lives and im sorry if it takes too much effort from your lazy ass to respect someone.

People have been disciplining their kids for thousands of years before the "humanists " came around and there were no problems with children on the contrary they were much better behaved had better manners, all in all a much greater sense of morals and good and bad and now these people come around and they want to change a system that has worked fine for thousands of years. all this new age bullxxxx is so damn annoying.

by the way good job anon you are now a good american you seem to have soaked the american propoganda on all issues like a sponge.

[violette829]

The use of physical violence? Honey, when ur kids act up...I don't know how ur gonna stand there and let them roll their eyes and scream at u. As far as respect for elders, OH wow..my parents have burned this into my brain ever since I was a child. I don't care if it was a far away uncle that I've never seen before, I have to do my duties as a "erekha" to respect him. Damn, I would love to see my kids disrespect an elder...they won't live to tell about it..lol That sounded bad.

My father has only hit me ONCE... That's a night that I will never forget. I was 9 and both of my parents worked. I had a friend who was "white" and she was like a pothead. My parents came home at around 7 or 8, and I wasn't there. UH OH! They got the WHOLE neighborhood to look for me. Finally, they found me at the park, tracing my laugh from like miles away....yes it's loud... My dad came up to me, the time was now 10, grabbed my arm, and took me into the car. On the way home, he was crying because he was so worried. I couldn't understand what the big deal was until he sat me down at home and with a VERY LOUD voice, he said to me..."YOU ARE 9, U GO TO A PARK WITH A POTHEAD, AND IT'S 10, WE THOUGHT U WERE DEAD" Then, in an instant, he slapped me right across my face. Yes, I had never been hit before, so this was strange. I remember my face being numb for a couple of minutes....AAnyway, because I had never been beaten, this moment will forever be a part of me. Needless to say, I stopped hanging out with that girl, and was home every single night when they arrived. My mom eventually stopped working to take care of us, but I know that if he hadn't found me, God knows where I'd be.

I have taken about 8 psychology classes...all of them teaching the same old stuff about reinforcing good behavior and positive this..negative that.....BLA BLA BLA....I understood what they were talking about, but some kids just don't have a fear of any authority. If u were a good kid, don't take it upon urself to assume that ur children will be like that. It's scary, but we have to be prepared to face this. It's a simple fact of life. Parent=Disciplinary Child=Disciplined........

[fstkhnan]

how about PEDICURE at 10......isnt that the worse?lol
well my lil cousin got it....and her mom took her.....and that will be my aunt!!
anyways but yeah I think the best punishment these days for those kids are:NO TV, NO COMP, and none of the fun stuff that they like to do....and see how they improve their behavior!

[violette829]

If a pedicure is all she wants, there's nothing wrong with it. I mean, it's cute when a little girl puts on nail polish on her toes..Anyway, that's just me though..For other, more serious things, there is proper punishment that needs to be given.

[ckBejug]

Originally posted by Anonymouse Marijuana is a drug obviously. I've used it occasionally for recreational purposes. Tylenol is a drug. Why do we say this one drug is good because it is legal, yet the other one is bad because it is illegal? Nyquil, Tylenol, Advil, etc., are all drugs which go into your body, and settle around your cell walls. They are toxins. You can overdose on these drugs. In fact alcohol is far more harmful to your body, than marijuana ever is. The differences are in degree, not in kind.

More importantly, it is important for us to ask why these children are moving more and more towards drugs. What is it in their material lives that they are lacking in their spirit? Not enough parental interest in their lives? Lack of spiritual satisfication? What drives them to these ends? We should be asking questions first before attempting to solve anything.

I personally will not use physical force to discipline a child. After a semester of psychology, in the issue of child rearing, I really agree with the humanists.

Mousy the issue is not that a drug that is legal is GOOD and one that is illegal is BAD. Plenty of people out there abuse prescription medication, over the counter medication, alcohol, legal things, whatever they can get their hands on. Good= using a drug to alleviate pain (and I don't mean getting high or drunk to forget you're sad or somesuch xxxx) Bad= using a drug for 'recreational' purposes. Maybe I need to talk to someone who has done drugs before, you've smoked weed, what was your reason behind it? I have never ever felt the pull to do something like that. God knows in college there were plenty PLENTY of people around me doing it, it would have been easier than anything to find any drug I could possibly think of, I just never found it enticing. My parents never sat me down and said 'Christine, drugs are bad blah blah blah.' so maybe I don't get how people can see how bad these things are for you and still keep doing it. Someone try to explain this to me.

As for the discipline thing, my mom was quite the disciplinarian in my family and I am all the better for it. All this psychology stuff makes sense but you have to realize that at a certain point in their lives children need to be taught the difference between right asnd wrong. No matter how intelligent some kids might be, there is an age at which REASONING is not something they grasp. Yes and No is pretty much the extent of it and if you do something that you're not supposed to then you get punished/disciplined for it. My mom was an advocate of throwing that dang pabooj around when I was being bad. I think mom slippers have some kind of kid sensors because those things somehow always got me in the ass. If I was running up the stairs or down it, she had some damn good aim. I'd love to be there when you try to sit your breath-holding bloody-murder screaming tantrum-throwing kid down and try to reason with him like he has the brain capacity and understanding of an adult. Hell nowadays you'd be lucky to find most adults with that kind of brain capacity and understanding, and just so you know, not everyone comes out as mature as our little baron happens to be at 17. Whernever I see all these 12 year old running around with more make-up than I've ever had on in my entire life and hanging out and messing around in public with guys old enough for it to be illegal probably I can't help but wonder where the hell the parents went wrong.....