Religion (split from Q&A)

[Siggie]

Re: Religion (split from Q&A)

The concept of salvation is similiar across many religions. For example, Armenia would have been a lost nation had it not adopted Christianity. Eternal life can also be interpreted as having children and continuing your ancestry. Christianity also professes the dangers of materialism in which possessions are put at a higher value than life itself.

I told Yeraz the same thing when he made that claim about Armenia. There is no way to know that Christianity saved Armenia. It survived long before Christianity and it is impossible to say that it has survived since because of it.

You're talking about eternal life because I mentioned salvation? Does it make sense to say you wouldn't continue your ancestry if you didn't believe? What is "hell" then?

As for materialism, no one has argued that the bible does not include some good things (though there's lots of bad). It is not the only source for them though.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Religion (split from Q&A)

But he is correct in that it does teach that the only way to salvation is to accept Christ.

The concept of salvation is similiar across many religions. For example, Armenia would have been a lost nation had it not adopted Christianity. Eternal life can also be interpreted as having children and continuing your ancestry. Christianity also professes the dangers of materialism in which possessions are put at a higher value than life itself.

[Yeznik]

Re: Religion (split from Q&A)

But he is correct in that it does teach that the only way to salvation is to accept Christ.

Correct Christ states that Salvation is only through Him "I am the way and the truth and the life...” John 14:6. But that doesn’t translate to promote violence and kill other people.

[Siggie]

Re: Religion (split from Q&A)

Christianity doesn't teach that other people are sub-human and to destroy other people. It is people manipulating Christianity from its true form to their political ideals and gains.

But he is correct in that it does teach that the only way to salvation is to accept Christ.

[Yeznik]

Re: Religion (split from Q&A)

Basically, when someone's religion is wrong, you have the right to make war with them to subvert them or destroy them. They are to be regarded as sub-human.

Christianity doesn't teach that other people are sub-human and to destroy other people. It is people manipulating Christianity from its true form to their political ideals and gains.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Religion (split from Q&A)

In Christianity the scriptures teach that all other belief systems are wrong. I think it's the same for Islam and Judaism. Basically, when someone's religion is wrong, you have the right to make war with them to subvert them or destroy them. They are to be regarded as sub-human.

You left out the part where the leader/king gets to divide and plunder all the gold and J3wels or in the modern world... the oil and gas.

[jgk3]

Re: Religion (split from Q&A)

In Christianity the scriptures teach that all other belief systems are wrong. I think it's the same for Islam and Judaism. Basically, when someone's religion is wrong, you have the right to make war with them to subvert them or destroy them. They are to be regarded as sub-human.

I do not agree with this, but I can see how it can be used politically and spiritually to lead the men under a religious war to conquer and establish their order over the world. The military expansion of Islam is a classic example of this, overcoming Christians, pagans, xxxs, Zoroastrians, Buddhists, Hindus... by the sword, in the name of Allah.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Christianity Q&A

Most people do believe that their own is the only correct religion. Most Christians would tell you, theirs is the true god and those who believe in those wrong ones will be going hell. However many of these other religions have scripture too or other "evidence" that they point to. And, "Transformed entire populations"? Are you suggesting Christianity is the correct believe system because of the number of people who believe? Because by that logic, Islam would be the "correct" one.

That's news to me, different people around the world have been exposed to different scriptures that have affected their ancestral and cultural development. There are pockets of natives that probably have never come into contact with the developed world but they still have their own teachings and views of the world that were passed down from generation to generation.

Perhaps you're referring to those that have never left their hometown let alone their state and are a victim of government sponsored and endorsed propaganda. As I stated before, there is no "correct" or "incorrect". As far as I know the difference between the two is Christians are taught that Jesus was the son of God and Muslims are taught that Jesus was just a prophet since the prophet Muhommad was said to be raised with Christian theology but gained popularity by defeating an enormous army of men against all odds which is what spawned Islam.

[Siggie]

Re: Christianity Q&A

How is it hypocritical to learn the teachings of someone who transformed entire populations? You're focusing too much on those who boast that their religion is the only "correct" religion. If you were to compare many of the writings, you'll find similarities and differences but more than likely similarities. Anyone that has studied world religions or has been exposed to different cultures and religions understands that religion is a personal philosophy, much of which has been handed down from generation to generation.

Most people do believe that their own is the only correct religion. Most Christians would tell you, theirs is the true god and those who believe in those wrong ones will be going hell. However many of these other religions have scripture too or other "evidence" that they point to. And, "Transformed entire populations"? Are you suggesting Christianity is the correct believe system because of the number of people who believe? Because by that logic, Islam would be the "correct" one.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Christianity Q&A

Regarding the soul or anything else that "can't be proven or disproven," please note that that does not make either outcome equally likely. FSM cannot be proven or disproven either, but would you say it's as likely that he exists as it is that he does not? Think about that... that was created to illustrate the hypocrisy of the belief in a god, especially a particularly god in light of all of the different religions people subscribe to in the world.

How is it hypocritical to learn the teachings of someone who transformed entire populations? You're focusing too much on those who boast that their religion is the only "correct" religion. If you were to compare many of the writings, you'll find similarities and differences but more than likely similarities. Anyone that has studied world religions or has been exposed to different cultures and religions understands that religion is a personal philosophy, much of which has been handed down from generation to generation.