Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

[hipeter924]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

Words in English are derived from Greek. Most translations were made from Hebrew to Greek.



Now you're comparing people who have world experience to clowns who were raised in the farms of the USA? Every time I have to enter that country for business, it's like entering the twilight zone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfSN4...eature=related



Wow... people have seriously lost all perspective on things. The USA is extremely secular, it's just controlled by J3ws. Evangelical Christians are the nutts that get paid by the J3wish lobby to do their dirty political work. It's not hard to make people believe anything when they've never left their own state. The world to them is about as big as the cardboard box that they would be living in if it weren't for the government holding their hand through life.

Good point, but publicly at least (in the right) they aren't that Secular and want a Christian state with the equivalent rights and privileges of the Taliban run Afghanistan. http://www.theocracywatch.org/biblical_law2.htm

[KanadaHye]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

I've never seen it with that "i." And I don't know what you mean by Hebrew source or by a meaning in Hebrew because I'm quite confident that it comes from Greek. Many words used in science or English in general come from Greek in a similar fashion, like "psychology" or "biology."

Words in English are derived from Greek. Most translations were made from Hebrew to Greek.

I dont mind a frank discussion about any legit topic but arguing against evolution definetly puts you in the religious nutt catagory because those are the only people who still argue against it. Their argument is based on a bunch of garbage usualy of religious origin and like everything else these nutts do, it can't be substantiated or even discussed without rational people bursting into uncontrolable laughfter. It is sad to see that religion still can put the blinders on people like that but it reinforces my earlier statement that the USA is not a secular country, thats right all the sexual permisquity and other "evile" things some clowns here like to talk about are happening in a chrystian country! Go watch some great pbs documentaries about evolution research (there are some great ones) and if you still arent convinced then by all means go join mr huckabee and sara paylin in your endless rants on sexual permiscuity while your underaged daughter is bussy gettin pregnent.

Now you're comparing people who have world experience to clowns who were raised in the farms of the USA? Every time I have to enter that country for business, it's like entering the twilight zone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfSN4...eature=related

America can't call itself that Secular, since the only religion that seems to be represented in government is Protestant, Catholic and Evangelical Christianity, and no agnostics and atheists exist there really either. In addition Atheists (and therefore Buddhists) are bared from political office and the Presidency in some states. Also there is a strong anti-science movement, and ever since 9/11 there is a lot of discrimination against Muslims. The list goes on, but I wouldn't call the US model that Secular.

Wow... people have seriously lost all perspective on things. The USA is extremely secular, it's just controlled by J3ws. Evangelical Christians are the nutts that get paid by the J3wish lobby to do their dirty political work. It's not hard to make people believe anything when they've never left their own state. The world to them is about as big as the cardboard box that they would be living in if it weren't for the government holding their hand through life.

[Haykakan]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

I dont mind a frank discussion about any legit topic but arguing against evolution definetly puts you in the religious nutt catagory because those are the only people who still argue against it. Their argument is based on a bunch of garbage usualy of religious origin and like everything else these nutts do, it can't be substantiated or even discussed without rational people bursting into uncontrolable laughfter. It is sad to see that religion still can put the blinders on people like that but it reinforces my earlier statement that the USA is not a secular country, thats right all the sexual permisquity and other "evile" things some clowns here like to talk about are happening in a chrystian country! Go watch some great pbs documentaries about evolution research (there are some great ones) and if you still arent convinced then by all means go join mr huckabee and sara paylin in your endless rants on sexual permiscuity while your underaged daughter is bussy gettin pregnent.

[Stark Evade]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

Depends if it's from a Hebrew source... I've seen it spelled genisis before in sites like this...

http://forum.richarddawkins.net/view...=98996&start=0

btw... Genesis/Genisis means "birth" in Hebrew. So why is science using words from the bible to explain the origins of life?

I've never seen it with that "i." And I don't know what you mean by Hebrew source or by a meaning in Hebrew because I'm quite confident that it comes from Greek. Many words used in science or English in general come from Greek in a similar fashion, like "psychology" or "biology."

[hipeter924]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

Christianity in no way promotes raping, robbing or killing... There have been, there are and there will unfortunately always be people who will try to expliot any movemnet, any idea… Does it mean the original thing has been a bad thing? It's almost like saying 'sex' is a bad thing because there are many sexually promiscuous people.

What's more Christianity is not supposed to be some sort of a miraculous formula treating all human infirmity, it's more rather like a spiritual path if I may say.



The secular states are destroying with their own methods.

How about mentioning secular America and its 'peacful' policies?

And, I don't think religion was the main reason for the Genocide. It was Turkishness or Pan-Turkism more precisely.

America can't call itself that Secular, since the only religion that seems to be represented in government is Protestant, Catholic and Evangelical Christianity, and no agnostics and atheists exist there really either. In addition Atheists (and therefore Buddhists) are bared from political office and the Presidency in some states. Also there is a strong anti-science movement, and ever since 9/11 there is a lot of discrimination against Muslims. The list goes on, but I wouldn't call the US model that Secular.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

Actually "genisis" is completely wrong. I don't even think it's in the bible that way. I typed it wrong once and copy/pasted the mistake. Sorry.

Depends if it's from a Hebrew source... I've seen it spelled genisis before in sites like this...

http://forum.richarddawkins.net/view...=98996&start=0

btw... Genesis/Genisis means "birth" in Hebrew. So why is science using words from the bible to explain the origins of life?

[Stark Evade]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

It's a shame you can't even spell Genesis. Genisis is the religious spelling of the book of Genisis.

Biogenesis - Theory that all life comes from living matter
Abiogenesis - Theory that life can come from non-living matter

Nope, not contradictory at all.

Actually "genisis" is completely wrong. I don't even think it's in the bible that way. I typed it wrong once and copy/pasted the mistake. Sorry.

You don't understand that the biogenesis concept was formulated as a response to spontaneous generation and not to defeating the concept of abiogenesis. That argument is completely ignorant and not only shows a lack of understanding of biogenesis but of the how it is related to abiogenesis chemically. They don't rule eachother out. Read a book and stop looking at stupid creationist websites.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

You obviously are completely ignorant about the mechanics and history of evolution. Shame. Evolution doesn't contradict anything in science. Not one thing. There isn't a single shred of evidence that could call into question the validity of evolution and if you feel there is, you've limited your "education" to ignorant and biased interpretations of the science (e.g. creationst websites). Abiogenisis doesn't contradict biogenisis. Abiogenisis and biogenisis work together to explain the nature of life. You're bringing up a 150 year old debate as though it were still relevant.

It's a shame you can't even spell Genesis. Genisis is the religious spelling of the book of Genisis.

Biogenesis - Theory that all life comes from living matter
Abiogenesis - Theory that life can come from non-living matter

Nope, not contradictory at all.

[Stark Evade]

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It's too bad they only get the dumb callers on those shows... I guess that makes it easier to argue their case.


As far as Abiogenesis goes.... Evolution contradicts the Laws of Science, particularly the Law of Biogenesis.

There has been no scientific evidence that life has been produced through any scientific experiment. Not in any lab or any experiment. This exists only in the minds of evolutionists in the form of wishful thinking. The only thing that scientists have managed to accomplish is the creation of a few strands of amino acids.... with the help of electricity of course.

You obviously are completely ignorant about the mechanics and history of evolution. Shame. Evolution doesn't contradict anything in science. Not one thing. There isn't a single shred of evidence that could call into question the validity of evolution and if you feel there is, you've limited your "education" to ignorant and biased interpretations of the science (e.g. creationst websites). Abiogenisis doesn't contradict biogenisis. Abiogenisis and biogenisis work together to explain the nature of life. You're bringing up a 150 year old debate as though it were still relevant.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

Religion gives those who are looking to manipulate another tool to work with, a very effective one at that. It means that chrystianity can be used as a tool to do evile as are most other religions. Religion is used to divide and creat artificial differences among people and these differences are then used against them.

That is the power of politics. There will always be differences between people that can be exploited by those who want to expoit them.

Christianity in no way promotes raping, robbing or killing... There have been, there are and there will unfortunately always be people who will try to expliot any movemnet, any idea… Does it mean the original thing has been a bad thing? It's almost like saying 'sex' is a bad thing because there are many sexually promiscuous people.

Sex has been perverted in society to be a "bad" thing and so people are raised to treat it as a "bad" thing. Especially the way it is being portrayed in movies and pop culture. Anything can be used for good or bad (unless good or bad can't be defined due to lack of judgement)