Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

[hipeter924]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

You want receipts?

It's hard to explain, there is this strange way that people act. Maybe too much emphasis on individualism. I know people are way too influenced by the media since everyone is usually talking about what they saw on TV or heard on the radio. Also, since I'm always dealing with the border/customs, etc.... I get the full effect of "national security". Everybody that isn't American is considered a terrorist. The Canadian customs do the same thing.... for a world that's becoming more and more globalized, it's strange that the walls are getting higher instead of being knocked down.

I agree a few years ago you could smile on passports and laugh with the customs people, now...you have to look like a drug addict or someone who appears to have never done anything interesting in their entire life.

[Muhaha]

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You think their opposition to outsiders has nothing to do with their crimes of the past?

No, I think it has more to do with making sure they don't turn into the next London or Berlin when it comes to a Muslim presence.

You seem to support globalization yet can't seem to connect why people's rights are being taken away. That's what control is about. That is why people have fought to the death in the past for their freedom. It has everything to do with big brother is watching and not the invisible man in the sky watching.

It's not that I support Globalization, It's that I feel it is inevitable and that it is a much better idea to make sure the future Globalized world is free than to try and make sure Globalization doesn't happen at all. Most everybody who is against Globalization thinks it's an automatic death sentence for freedom, which I simply don't see as true.

The discussion on God and Religious people trying to take away rights is a separate issue. I'm not saying Globalization has anything to do with them.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

I brought up the Swiss to illustrate their opposition to outsiders. You're talking about something completely different.

You think their opposition to outsiders has nothing to do with their crimes of the past?

Technological advances are turning the world into a giant unified block, it's only natural for people to want to control that block. Just like people wanted to control nations/continents in the past. Making sure the future Globalized world is free is a lot more important than trying to make sure there isn't anyone at the Globalized top or trying to make sure Globalization doesn't happen at all.

As long as people exist who want to take away the rights of others because they think there's an invisible man in the sky with self esteem issues that cares about the silly and worldly affairs of the human species, we're going to have to keep having discussions on this matter.

You seem to support globalization yet can't seem to connect why people's rights are being taken away. That's what control is about. That is why people have fought to the death in the past for their freedom. It has everything to do with big brother is watching and not the invisible man in the sky watching.

[Muhaha]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

Nah, I've rejected it being imposed on myself which is why I'm more aware of its influence

Oh.

The world is more connected to the events of the past and present than most people seem to realize. You brought us the Swiss, I didn't.

I brought up the Swiss to illustrate their opposition to outsiders. You're talking about something completely different.

Hitler was supposedly trying to take over Europe. Globalization and the politicians and businessmen involved are taking over the world, yet nobody is screaming bloody murder.

Technological advances are turning the world into a giant unified block, it's only natural for people to want to control that block. Just like people wanted to control nations/continents in the past. Making sure the future Globalized world is free is a lot more important than trying to make sure there isn't anyone at the Globalized top or trying to make sure Globalization doesn't happen at all.

But hey, is there or isn't there a god... that is the question

It is important. As long as people exist who want to take away the rights of others because they think there's an invisible man in the sky with self esteem issues that cares about the silly and worldly affairs of the human species, we're going to have to keep having discussions on this matter.

[KanadaHye]

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Bush being voted in for a second term is a good point and so is the extreme focus on individuality but I still think you're exagarating what you've personally witnessed.

Nah, I've rejected it being imposed on myself which is why I'm more aware of its influence

Your ability to casually talk about things that have nothing to do with the subject at hand and make it look like your making a clear and concise point is uncanny. I have violent orgasms every time you do this.

The world is more connected to the events of the past and present than most people seem to realize. You brought us the Swiss, I didn't.

My point was quite the opposite. I'm saying stupid people think Globalization is some sort of evil tool and they're trying to stop it like the plague.

Hitler was supposedly trying to take over Europe. Globalization and the politicians and businessmen involved are taking over the world, yet nobody is screaming bloody murder.

But hey, is there or isn't there a god... that is the question

[Muhaha]

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Stereotypes are made for a reason. Come on, Bush was voted in for a second term!!! Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone, but a majority of people I deal with. Janesville (Wisconsin), Atlanta (Georgia), Akron (Ohio), Birmingham (Alabama)... also been to Texas (Houston and Brownsville... don't ask) and Kentucky and Tennessee. They don't put industry in the greatest of places, lol. You have to admit there is a lot of focus on individuality... it makes the political system more powerful.

Bush being voted in for a second term is a good point and so is the extreme focus on individuality but I still think you're exagarating what you've personally witnessed.

Well... take a look into the role that Swiss banks played during the rule of Nazi Germany and WWII. They were more like a monetary black hole than a twilight zone.

Your ability to casually talk about things that have nothing to do with the subject at hand and make it look like your making a clear and concise point is uncanny. I have violent orgasms every time you do this.

You think everyone is that smart?

My point was quite the opposite. I'm saying stupid people think Globalization is some sort of evil tool and they're trying to stop it like the plague.

[KanadaHye]

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You're describing a stereotypical view of America. Either you've found some sort of magical area where all this is true or you're simply exaggerating/making things up. What city/cities do you visit btw?

Stereotypes are made for a reason. Come on, Bush was voted in for a second term!!! Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone, but a majority of people I deal with. Janesville (Wisconsin), Atlanta (Georgia), Akron (Ohio), Birmingham (Alabama)... also been to Texas (Houston and Brownsville... don't ask) and Kentucky and Tennessee. They don't put industry in the greatest of places, lol. You have to admit there is a lot of focus on individuality... it makes the political system more powerful.

Yep, this is true, but I'd hardly consider this an American or Canadian phenomenon, everybody is protective of what their used to and hostile to anything else. The Swiss banned minarets on mosques, does that make Switzerland a twilight zone? There's a certain element within every country that's utterly and completely opposed to letting outsiders in, and with our new and extremely liberal President, that element is growing.

Well... take a look into the role that Swiss banks played during the rule of Nazi Germany and WWII. They were more like a monetary black hole than a twilight zone.

Yep, that is interesting. Maybe it's because everybody thinks Globalization is some sort of evil plan by the "Elite" so they're trying to fight it off?

You think everyone is that smart?

[Muhaha]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

You want receipts?

That or a Passport scan.

It's hard to explain, there is this strange way that people act. Maybe too much emphasis on individualism. I know people are way too influenced by the media since everyone is usually talking about what they saw on TV or heard on the radio.

You're describing a stereotypical view of America. Either you've found some sort of magical area where all this is true or you're simply exaggerating/making things up. What city/cities do you visit btw?

Also, since I'm always dealing with the border/customs, etc.... I get the full effect of "national security". Everybody that isn't American is considered a terrorist. The Canadian customs do the same thing....

Yep, this is true, but I'd hardly consider this an American or Canadian phenomenon, everybody is protective of what their used to and hostile to anything else. The Swiss banned minarets on mosques, does that make Switzerland a twilight zone? There's a certain element within every country that's utterly and completely opposed to letting outsiders in, and with our new and extremely liberal President, that element is growing.

for a world that's becoming more and more globalized, it's strange that the walls are getting higher instead of being knocked down.

Yep, that is interesting. Maybe it's because everybody thinks Globalization is some sort of evil plan by the "Elite" so they're trying to fight it off?

[Haykakan]

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"for a world that's becoming more and more globalized, it's strange that the walls are getting higher instead of being knocked down."

That is a interesting statement. Although i disagree with most of your takes on religion and science i find some of your statements insightfull and your humor effective.

[KanadaHye]

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First of all, I'm willing to venture you probably haven't even been to the U.S and you're making your 'business trips' up. Have any proof of your travels?

Second of all, what do you notice that makes for such a stark contrast between 'normal' Canada and 'twilight zone' America?

You want receipts?

It's hard to explain, there is this strange way that people act. Maybe too much emphasis on individualism. I know people are way too influenced by the media since everyone is usually talking about what they saw on TV or heard on the radio. Also, since I'm always dealing with the border/customs, etc.... I get the full effect of "national security". Everybody that isn't American is considered a terrorist. The Canadian customs do the same thing.... for a world that's becoming more and more globalized, it's strange that the walls are getting higher instead of being knocked down.