Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

[Haykakan]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

The religious also start wars, torture, murder, rape, lie steal, commit genocide, ethnic cleansing, engage in drug trafficing, destroy education and progress and justify it all cause they claim it is done in the name of god.

[HyeClown]

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I believe I remember him saying that he has actually (the bible at least).
He encourages atheists to speak up and "come out" so to speak because a good portion of the religious are shoving religion down everyone's throats. The coming out part is to put a face atheists. We're everywhere and we're not too different from you except we don't believe in a deity.

The religious go to church, raise families, work hard, donate to foundations and are active in the community. They also do volunteer work. They aren't going to change what makes them happy because atheists feel they are foolish for believing in fairy tales.

[hipeter924]

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The word militant is misapplied to atheists. Are they on par with militant fundi christians or militant fundi islamists?
No... The word militant means something completely different in those contexts and so it is inappropriate to apply to atheists.
Even the most outspoken of all, like Dawkins, what does he do? Give talks? Write books? Ooooh noes!!!!!
[sarcasm ] That's exactly like a suicide bomber. [/ sarcasm]




Have you read the book? Or are you just pulling a couple lines that someone else noted?

You're going to pick out two conflicts and then call him a mental midget on that basis? That's absurd.

I was not saying that Dawkins militant Atheism is as bad as militant theism, just that it is the opposing force. Militant Atheism talks logic and reason and puts out books whereas militant theism seems to put out suicide bombers and persecution.

And you get me wrong, I agree with Dawkins in many respects and have read his books.

[Siggie]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

No I haven't read the book but I find his views narrow minded. I've read many reviews and comments and discussions on the internet. Has he read the Bible? The Koran? The Torah? What are his reasons for preaching his beliefs?

I believe I remember him saying that he has actually (the bible at least).
He encourages atheists to speak up and "come out" so to speak because a good portion of the religious are shoving religion down everyone's throats. The coming out part is to put a face atheists. We're everywhere and we're not too different from you except we don't believe in a deity.

[HyeClown]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

Have you read the book? Or are you just pulling a couple lines that someone else noted?

You're going to pick out two conflicts and then call him a mental midget on that basis? That's absurd.

No I haven't read the book but I find his views narrow minded. I've read many reviews and comments and discussions on the internet. Has he read the Bible? The Koran? The Torah? What are his reasons for preaching his beliefs?

[Siggie]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

Dawkins is a militant Atheist meaning he wants to attack and criticise religion, he wishes religion did not exist aka he wants to "rock the boat", he is the opposing force to militant theism that wants to kill or stone to death all non-believers.

Then there are Secular forces usually supported by minority religious groups, agnostics and most atheists that want separation of church and state and to tolerate each others ideologies/beliefs.

Dawkins only represents a small percentage of Atheists, but he is perhaps the most vocal and controversial which is why that Fox chooses him over Secularists (not a single Secularist voice has been given a chance on Fox or American media so far I think)

The word militant is misapplied to atheists. Are they on par with militant fundi christians or militant fundi islamists?
No... The word militant means something completely different in those contexts and so it is inappropriate to apply to atheists.
Even the most outspoken of all, like Dawkins, what does he do? Give talks? Write books? Ooooh noes!!!!!
[sarcasm ] That's exactly like a suicide bomber. [/ sarcasm]

Dawkins sounds like a mental midget if you look at his point of views. He doesn't understand the complexities of the world (or he does and just writes in an ignorant fashion to appeal to his readers) He sounds as naive and unworldly as any happy clappy believer.

In his book "The God Delusion" he wrote simplistic statements like

'Imagine with John Lennon a world with no religion'

'Imagine no suicide bombers, no 9/11, no 7/7, no Crusades, no witch-hunts, no Gunpowder plot, no Indian partition, no Israeli/Palestinian wars, no Serb/Croat/Muslim massacres, no persecution of xxxs, etc, etc."

Many of these clashes – over the Palestinian state, or in Northern Ireland, for instance – are originally secular struggles that have, with the degradation of politics, come to appear as religious struggle. Suicide bombings are not a religious phenomenon - the tactic was pioneered by the secular Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka. It's war for the poor man.

Have you read the book? Or are you just pulling a couple lines that someone else noted?

You're going to pick out two conflicts and then call him a mental midget on that basis? That's absurd.

[HyeClown]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

Dawkins sounds like a mental midget if you look at his point of views. He doesn't understand the complexities of the world (or he does and just writes in an ignorant fashion to appeal to his readers) He sounds as naive and unworldly as any happy clappy believer.

In his book "The God Delusion" he wrote simplistic statements like

'Imagine with John Lennon a world with no religion'

'Imagine no suicide bombers, no 9/11, no 7/7, no Crusades, no witch-hunts, no Gunpowder plot, no Indian partition, no Israeli/Palestinian wars, no Serb/Croat/Muslim massacres, no persecution of xxxs, etc, etc."

Many of these clashes – over the Palestinian state, or in Northern Ireland, for instance – are originally secular struggles that have, with the degradation of politics, come to appear as religious struggle. Suicide bombings are not a religious phenomenon - the tactic was pioneered by the secular Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka. It's war for the poor man.

[hipeter924]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

Dawkins is a militant Atheist meaning he wants to attack and criticise religion, he wishes religion did not exist aka he wants to "rock the boat", he is the opposing force to militant theism that wants to kill or stone to death all non-believers.

Then there are Secular forces usually supported by minority religious groups, agnostics and most atheists that want separation of church and state and to tolerate each others ideologies/beliefs.

Dawkins only represents a small percentage of Atheists, but he is perhaps the most vocal and controversial which is why that Fox chooses him over Secularists (not a single Secularist voice has been given a chance on Fox or American media so far I think)

[HyeClown]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

The word fascist is intended to mean "oppressive", "intolerant", "chauvinist", "genocidal", "dictatorial", "racist", or "aggressive" – all concepts that are at least loosely inspired by the ideology of actual fascism.

It's really another word for "bully". Dawkins is as intolerant as they come and I wouldn't doubt it if O'Reilly has ties to the IRA.

[Siggie]

Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

What makes Dawkins a "fascist douche" exactly? His logical abilities and contributions to science? What lame rhetoric. Give me break.

Kanada likes to throw that word around. According to him, I'm a fascist too. He dislikes scientists.