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  • #21
    Re: Debate over origins of Christianity

    Whether Jëws have a monopoly on the world or not doesn't matter. For those who believe that Jëws aren't really a true ethnic group, but a religious minority imposing it's influence on the rest of the world, what if everyone in the world converted to Judaism and intermarried with the current Jëwish population? there would still be a minority that separates itself from the rest of the fold, and monopolizes them, it's just human nature. If the Jëwish monopoly(assuming there is one/i think other groups have larger monopolies) was gone, it would be replaced by one run by Christianity/Christian sect. If the Christians were gone, it'd be Muslim one, and so on
    Last edited by ara87; 02-02-2010, 05:47 PM.

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    • #22
      Re: Debate over origins of Christianity

      Originally posted by ara87 View Post
      Whether Jëws have a monopoly on the world or not doesn't matter. For those who believe that Jëws aren't really a true ethnic group, but a religious minority imposing it's influence on the rest of the world, what if everyone in the world converted to Judaism and intermarried with the current Jëwish population? there would still be a minority that separates itself from the rest of the fold, and monopolizes them, it's just human nature. If the Jëwish monopoly(assuming there is one/i think other groups have larger monopolies) was gone, it would be replaced by one run by Christianity/Christian sect. If the Christians were gone, it'd be Muslim one, and so on
      In Judaism, if a man marries a Jëwish woman then the offspring is automatically deemed Jëwish. A Jëwish man will not marry a non-Jëwish woman unless she converts. So it is not only genes or mentality but a combination of both which they see necessary for being Jëwish.
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      • #23
        Re: Debate over origins of Christianity

        Originally posted by ara87 View Post
        Whether Jëws have a monopoly on the world or not doesn't matter. For those who believe that Jëws aren't really a true ethnic group, but a religious minority imposing it's influence on the rest of the world, what if everyone in the world converted to Judaism and intermarried with the current Jëwish population? there would still be a minority that separates itself from the rest of the fold, and monopolizes them, it's just human nature. If the Jëwish monopoly(assuming there is one/i think other groups have larger monopolies) was gone, it would be replaced by one run by Christianity/Christian sect. If the Christians were gone, it'd be Muslim one, and so on
        Please name one single minority that has managed to monopolize the majority besides xxxs.
        Hayastan or Bust.

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        • #24
          Re: Debate over origins of Christianity

          Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
          Please name one single minority that has managed to monopolize the majority besides xxxs.
          Besides the fact that rich uncle money bags (the guy in the top hat) in the game "Monopoly" was influenced by nobody other than J.P. Morgan

          "At the time of his death (J.P. Morgan) on March 31, 1913 he had an estate worth $80 million (today around $1.2 billion). Compared to his peers of the time, especially Rockefeller, it was not such a large estate. In fact, it was Rockefeller's comment at the time, "And to think he wasn't even a rich man." Yet, JP Morgan's power did not lie in the millions he had, it lay in the billions he controlled."

          The Rockefellers used guys like Morgan to get weathier... I guess you just can never have enough.
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          • #25
            Re: Debate over origins of Christianity

            Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
            Besides the fact that rich uncle money bags (the guy in the top hat) in the game "Monopoly" was influenced by nobody other than J.P. Morgan

            "At the time of his death (J.P. Morgan) on March 31, 1913 he had an estate worth $80 million (today around $1.2 billion). Compared to his peers of the time, especially Rockefeller, it was not such a large estate. In fact, it was Rockefeller's comment at the time, "And to think he wasn't even a rich man." Yet, JP Morgan's power did not lie in the millions he had, it lay in the billions he controlled."

            The Rockefellers used guys like Morgan to get weathier... I guess you just can never have enough.

            Even more revealing is that morgan was a rothschild agent who was sent to the states by them. So those people wondering why the great rothschild house never established their presence in america, they did, and it was through jp.
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            • #26
              Re: Debate over origins of Christianity

              Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
              Please name one single minority that has managed to monopolize the majority besides xxxs.
              Anglo Saxons, seriously, if you look at how far they have conquered and how much wealth they have and that they make anyone follow their semi Germanic culture and as responsible for the slaughter of how many millions

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              • #27
                Re: Debate over origins of Christianity

                Originally posted by Pedro Xaramillo View Post
                Anglo Saxons, seriously, if you look at how far they have conquered and how much wealth they have and that they make anyone follow their semi Germanic culture and as responsible for the slaughter of how many millions
                Yeah, and you know their anthem...

                God Save the Queen, Jerusalem, Land of Hope and Glory (de facto)
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                • #28
                  Re: Debate over origins of Christianity

                  Originally posted by Pedro Xaramillo View Post
                  Anglo Saxons, seriously, if you look at how far they have conquered and how much wealth they have and that they make anyone follow their semi Germanic culture and as responsible for the slaughter of how many millions
                  Well the problem with this example is that you know who controls them now.
                  Hayastan or Bust.

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                  • #29
                    Re: Debate over origins of Christianity

                    Now maybe, but not always, they invaded Ireland of their own accord, for that matter Britannia too, they murdered my ancestors up north on their own accord and they stole our land on their own doing, no xxxish involvement, I dont think they are controlled by xxxs, they just go where the money is and whether or not they can get land

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                    • #30
                      Re: Debate over origins of Christianity

                      Originally posted by Pedro Xaramillo View Post
                      Now maybe, but not always, they invaded Ireland of their own accord, for that matter Britannia too, they murdered my ancestors up north on their own accord and they stole our land on their own doing, no xxxish involvement, I dont think they are controlled by xxxs, they just go where the money is and whether or not they can get land
                      I've come to find that things happen simultaneously in history (meaning when a big event happens in one part of the world, there are also other events that occur in other parts of the world)

                      Taking a look at the time when Ireland got invaded by King Henry II of England which was around 1171 A.D, there were also other transfers of power.

                      969-1171 The Fatimid dynasty ruled Egypt.
                      1171-1250 Egypt was governed by the Ayyubid dynasty.

                      Also, here is a map of Egypt around that time in history


                      A bit more research and voila...

                      The Muslim xxxish Relations in Ayyubid Egypt (1171-1250)

                      By Mohamed Hawary

                      Paper given at Children of Abraham: Trialogue of Civilizations (2007)

                      Introduction: Egypt had a very sizable xxxish population during the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. Over ninety cities, towns, villages, and hamlets with xxxish inhabitants are known. Fustat had a Rabbanite xxxish community numbering some 3,600 souls. In addition, there were the much smaller Karaite community and a small congregation in nearby Cairo, bringing the total xxxish population in the capital to well over 4,000.

                      The history of the xxxs in Egypt since the Arab conquest (630- 41) till Jauhar’s entry into Fustat at the head of the Fatimid army (969) is almost entirely shrouded in obscurity. The earliest reference to the xxxs in Fustat, so far known, is a document of the year 750 C.E. But very little indeed do we know of the life of the important Egyptian xxxry during more than three centuries.

                      Many of the xxxish communal officials in Egypt were connected in some way or other with government. The xxxs no doubt were treated in the same manner as the other non-Muslim inhabitants, the people of the tribute (ahl-al-dhimma). The Fatimids and their successors, the Ayyubids (1171-1250), employed ahl-aldhimma in their administrations far beyond their proportion in the general population. The xxxs in Egypt used to be distinguished in this period by a different dress.

                      Feel free to read on...

                      http://www.medievalists.net/2009/05/...ypt-1171-1250/
                      Last edited by KanadaHye; 02-05-2010, 06:36 PM.
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